taf2002
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And you prefer to disbelieve everything out of Meghan's or Harry's mouth. You wouldn't be happy if you couldn't be hating on someone. Your posting history bears this out.
Just call me Harry. (Everything Harry & Meghan)
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Interesting. I was under the impression that people could select more than one category for race on the census. I just assumed it was like filling out a URLA where you can select however many categories that apply (or none at all).Biracial people are, in fact, classified as African American on the census.
I just don’t like people who bring up their issues with family in the press. Which is what Meghan did with the whole Kate made her cry (maybe they both did).
There is always two sides to every story. I doubt anyone’s perfect.
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The stuff about Archie not being given security is 
and the discussions about his skin color are also 
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and the discussions about his skin color are also ,Well saying he isn’t a prince Because he is part African American is unfair. Sophie’s children aren’t given security. Peter Phillips and Zara aren’t.The stuff about Archie not being given security is
Technically Edward and Sophie’s children are entitled to go by Prince and Princess and they announced they would not go by them they are parting down
As of right now her son is not entitled to be a prince per the rules Prince George as a direct heir to the throne is the only great grandchild so entitled its reasonable that Charlotte, Louis are because there father will be King.
And Archie could be Lord Archie if they wanted.
Archie isnt in the same position as Prince George, Charlotte and Louis why not let him have a Normal life?
Eugenie’s August isn’t a Prince.
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Yeah but why would they even be worried about skin color? Neither Harry or Meghan are dark-skinned.
I am not sure I believe her. She is not telling the truth about the Prince thing. Edwards white children don’t go by prince or princess. They have been parring down those titles .
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Just understand, please, that none of the Queen's grandchildren except William & Harry have security. Beatrice & Eugenie used to have it but it was taken away back in the 2000s - I want to say 2005-08 range but I can't say for sure, just that Andrew made a stink about it and was told he could pay for it himself if he thought they needed it. The only time Louise & James get RPOs is when they are with their parents for an official event - and that's actually true of the Queen's cousins, the Kents & Gloucesters (and I think also Anne and the Wessexes) - they don't get RPOs except when on royal duties.The stuff about Archie not being given security is
The Met police are in charge of RPOs so they would have made the decision regarding security for Archie. He would have had whatever security the Sussexes had at Frogmore Cottage and, obviously, protection if he was out and about with one or both of his parents, but my guess here is that the Met hadn't made any determinations about what sort of security he would need when he was older and in school, which makes sense since who knows what sort of threats would exist for him in a few years time.
And he wasn't going to have an HRH from birth, that was known, because the Queen wasn't going to extend the 1917 LP to cover Harry's children (great-grandchildren of the monarch in the male line in general, plus the eldest son of the eldest son of the POW) the same way she did with her 2012 LP for William's children (all children of the heir's heir regardless of gender). He does have a courtesy title (Earl of Dumbarton), so I'd like their explanation as to why they didn't style Archie that way.
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Some of this stuff is awful. Why wouldn't they let her go to a hospital if she was suicidal?
they refused to give him a title? And then no security. Unforgiveable.The stuff about Archie not being given security is
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Do you really believe that? With the way the Cambridges and Harry had already made mental health a central piece of their Royal Foundation's work? I can't, in all truth, believe that is, for a second, a true statement, even if she is saying it.
William and Harrry saw psychiatrists so why wouldn’t they let Meghan. She is not being honest about the security and prince/princess thing.
Eugene doesn’t have security and she is in same position as Harry’s child first child of the spare. With the heir already having several children.
He has a title if he wants Lord Archie. For some reason Harry chose not to put it on there. Per the letters of patent as a great grandchild he is not entitled to Prince. A law had to be passed for Prince George and he is the future King
They have the resources to provide mental health services on a confidential basis. It's heartbreaking that they didn't.
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I actually can believe it because people in the aristocratic class are expected to get private, out-patient therapy. I'm not going to go into any more of it but I actually spent about a week at an inpatient psychiatric hospital and let's just say the mental care you receive at those places is not good. At all.
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He wasn't eligible for a title. He's a great grandson of the Queen. He will be eligible to use the Prince title when Charles becomes king.
And isn’t unfair for her to say something different and Edwards children who are entitled aren’t using it so they may very well change the royals so only children of the heir. Which has nothing to do with Archies race this has been going on for awhile and it’s in line with other royal families scaling back.
Archie is not in the same position as the Cambridge children. And given the fact that they hate the media and don’t even want to be part of it they should be glad he gets to have a privileged normal life
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I'm shocked they wouldn't let Meghan get medical help though.
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read my post above re security.
But, to further clarify... HRH is not a "title" - it is a style of address. He was not going to be styled as an HRH from birth, which is exactly how the 1917 Letters Patent issued by George V read. The Queen made a slight alteration to that in 2012 with her own LP so that instead of the "eldest son of the eldest son of the POW" also being given the HRH style from birth, instead "all children of the eldest son of the POW" would be styled as HRH. This was in line with the legislation to change the line of succession from male primogeniture to absolute primogeniture where the eldest child inherited, regardless of gender. Per the 1917 LP, all great-grandchildren of the monarch in the male line are to be styled as Lord/Lady. So, he should have been styled as Lord Archie Mountbatten - not sure why Harry & Meghan chose to not style him that manner, unless they were mad that he wasn't getting the HRH style. Once Charles ascends to the throne, at that point, Archie is eligible to be styled as HRH.
As the eldest son of the Duke of Sussex, Earl of Dumbarton, Baron Kilkeel, Archie is able to use, just like the heir to any peerage, a courtesy title. Really, he should have been styled as Archie, Earl of Dumbarton (similar to Prince Edward's son who is styled James, Viscount Severn) rather than Master Archie Mountbatten at birth and it never made much sense to seasoned royal watchers why Harry & Meghan chose not.
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Wait I thought it was Archie Windsor because despite Philip's wishes the royal family did not take on the "Mountbatten" name?
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Seriously... Why, when several others have already pointed out some of the falsehoods in what she is saying in this interview, do you persist in believing that what she is saying in this regard is absolute truth? Harry and William have both sought the help of psychiatrists/therapists - it is well-known that William pushed Harry into seeing one back in the 2000s - why would they have denied Meghan? It absolutely does not track with ANYTHING that is publicly known about the BRF and specifically the Wales' boys.
Can you imagine what Diana went through.
Yes legally Archie was entitled to be
It’s really unfair to apply the title thing had to do with race and not the reality that Archie was not going to be a working member of the royal family
he could still be Lord. It would have been Harry’s choice not to call him that and at any moment he would be.
It’s really unfair to apply the title thing had to do with race and not the reality that Archie was not going to be a working member of the royal family
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I'm a good judge of body language and I believe Meghan in this interview. I don;t think she's lying. I'm good at sniffing out lies. Like I knew Tonya Harding, Jussie Smolett, and Susan Smith were lying before everyone knew they were lying.
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For some branches of the family it is Windsor - the Gloucesters and Kents are Windsors, but for Philip & Elizabeth's descendants, when they have need of a surname, it is Mountbatten-Windsor. Most famous example of this is that Edward & Sophie's daughter, Louise, is listed in William & Kate's wedding program as Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor. First use would have been, IIRC, Anne when she signed her marriage register as Anne Mountbatten-Windsor.
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Oh, I'm sure Meghan believes in her truth and that she honestly believes all of the BS she is spewing.
Ummmm yup both Harry and Meghan are lying. yeah not buying that especially when you know the palace can’t refute it.
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Also, I said that it's believable they told her not get inpatient care considering the royal family probably thinks outpatient therapy is the way to go as it's what Harry, William, and Diana used.
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