Gymnastics #24 - The Road to Paris

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

WOW that was amazing and so entertaining!!

Thank you, it was a lot of work

 

[Lynn226]

I watched Simone Biles Rising and enjoyed it. The commentary from Dominique Dawes is on point and it was nice to see Aly Raisman, too. They're favorites of mine.

 

[4rkidz]

I watched Simone Biles Rising and enjoyed it. The commentary from Dominique Dawes is on point and it was nice to see Aly Raisman, too. They're favorites of mine.

I watched it two, she is such a good communicator and I am really impressed with her coaches. I really hope she becomes a coach too.

 

[Rob]

I've started watching "Simone Biles Rising" on Netflix. It's making me even sadder about what she went through with the Tokyo Olympics and all the hate and criticism. And it's also making me nervous for her. I hope that, if she does start getting the twisties again, that she won't try to avoid the criticism and risk severely injuring herself by staying in. She says that, whenever she does a Yurchenko double pike, she's scared and trying not to die.

I didn't realize that Simone's mom was on camera when Simone called her from Tokyo during the team final. Her mom told her that the team would do their best without her and that she shouldn't risk hurting herself. I'd like to think that all gymnastics parents would do the same, but I don't think that's true. And I think that there might be gymnasts who would risk breaking their necks rather than withdraw.

I haven't watched it yet, but it steams me when people call her a quitter or say she let her team down. First, people still think a mental issue is just a weakness and not an illness, which is so wrong. Second, she could have seriously injured herself. Third, it was unselfish to withdraw because it could have actually cost the team a medal had she become injured or hit by the twisties again halfway through another routine.

 

[Allskate]

"Simone Biles Rising" is already the number one show on Netflix. There are more episodes scheduled for the fall. I hope she doesn't have cameras following her throughout the Olympics. Too much stress. And I hope she's backing off of social media since she repeatedly has said that it's not good for her.

I loved what all the former gymnasts on these two episodes had to say. I have always loved Aly Raisman, and I'm so glad that Simone has her as a friend and supporter. Based on the trailers, they seem to have more former gymnasts lined up to talk in later episodes, including Dominique Moceanu and Nadia Comaneci.

I haven't watched it yet, but it steams me when people call her a quitter or say she let her team down. First, people still think a mental issue is just a weakness and not an illness, which is so wrong. Second, she could have seriously injured herself. Third, it was unselfish to withdraw because it could have actually cost the team a medal had she become injured or hit by the twisties again halfway through another routine.

ITA. But, I think most people how criticize her haven't bothered to learn the facts and don't really care to learn them. That includes a lot of the media.

I do think it's true that Simone didn't do a lot to explain the twisties very clearly at the time, but she had a lot to deal with, and I still think that the media could have done more to explain the situation without her detailing it.

 

[dramagrrl]

I'm also watching the series and I genuinely hope she wins five gold medals in Paris (sixth for Suni ), but no matter what happens, she is truly the GOAT. There are other gymnasts from the past whose styles I have preferred or was more emotionally invested in, but there is really no competition and likely won't be for a long, long time, if ever in our lifetimes.

ETA: I hope nothing negative ever comes out about the Landis, because they seem like such supportive and reasonable coaches. (It seems like in gymnastics, every time someone says that, a few years later, something terrible comes out about that coach or coaching team.)

 

[Allskate]

ETA: I hope nothing negative ever comes out about the Landrys, because they seem like such supportive and reasonable coaches. (It seems like in gymnastics, every time someone says that, a few years later, something terrible comes out about that coach or coaching team.)

I hope so, too, especially since I think that they and Simone are so critical to changing the standards and culture for gymnastics. It's so sad hearing from past gymnasts what it was like for them and how they are still suffering from it both physically and emotionally as adults years later. I just listened to Aly Raisman on a podcast, and it was heartbreaking to hear about her eating issues. It really seems like it largely was a result of the culture. So was the trauma she and so many others experienced. And she still is suffering from it.

 

[Amy L]

I hope so, too, especially since I think that they and Simone are so critical to changing the standards and culture for gymnastics. It's so sad hearing from past gymnasts what it was like for them and how they are still suffering from it both physically and emotionally as adults years later.

I remember Simone saying something pre-Tokyo about being the only Nassar victim still competing and how she feels responsibility to stick around or else people might start to forget about it and never change things. She puts a lot of pressure on herself for what shouldn't be her job. But she's probably right about certain people wanting to "move on" and not have to deal with it anymore.

 

[danafan]

It's being widely reported that Japanese gymnast Shoko Miyata has been dismissed from the Olympic team for smoking (cigarettes - though none of the articles say that, it all says smoking).

Olympics: Japan women's gymnastics captain Shoko Miyata to leave team over smoking

Shoko Miyata, the 19-year-old captain of Japan's women's artistic gymnastics for the Paris Olympics, is set to leave the team over allegations of smoking in violation of its conduct code, multiple sources close to the matter say.

english.kyodonews.net

Shoko Miyata, the 19-year-old captain of Japan's women's artistic gymnastics for the Paris Olympics, is set to leave the team over allegations of smoking in violation of its conduct code, multiple sources close to the matter said Thursday.

 

[Sarah]

ETA: I hope nothing negative ever comes out about the Landis, because they seem like such supportive and reasonable coaches. (It seems like in gymnastics, every time someone says that, a few years later, something terrible comes out about that coach or coaching team.)

Unfortunately, there has been a decent amount of negative stuff about the Landis from some former gymnasts (Grace McLaughlin — Instagram posts are gone and twitter is now limited — and I think Alyssa Baumann back at Woga at least as well as some comments from a recent live from Zoe Miller that I didn’t see but raised some questions). If you peruse Reddit, there are definitely some eye opening posts about the Landi’s, Laurent’s temper, Cecile, etc. Some could just be former athletes but I suspect there is a kernel of truth in there (usually is).

 

[ptvvibezz]

This comment on a reddit thread stood out to me re: the Landis

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gymnastics/s/gOPq7Rdrth

 

[Sarah]

This comment on a reddit thread stood out to me re: the Landis

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gymnastics/s/gOPq7Rdrth

Yeah, that thread is appalling.

 

[Private Citizen]

It's being widely reported that Japanese gymnast Shoko Miyata has been dismissed from the Olympic team for smoking (cigarettes - though none of the articles say that, it all says smoking).

I'm not sure if gymnastics has quite the same problem as figure skating with very high (compared to general population) smoking rates, almost certainly for appetite suppression. I think it's not a bad idea to put smoking and vaping prohibitions into codes of conduct.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

It's being widely reported that Japanese gymnast Shoko Miyata has been dismissed from the Olympic team for smoking (cigarettes - though none of the articles say that, it all says smoking).

Olympics: Japan women's gymnastics captain Shoko Miyata to leave team over smoking

Shoko Miyata, the 19-year-old captain of Japan's women's artistic gymnastics for the Paris Olympics, is set to leave the team over allegations of smoking in violation of its conduct code, multiple sources close to the matter say.

english.kyodonews.net

I know it’s so sad, I just came across this as well

Japanese Gymnast Shoko Miyata Sent Home from Paris Olympics for Violating Team Smoking Ban — People

"She was spending her days really burdened with so much pressure," Mayata's coach said Friday

apple.news

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Olympic Gymnast Jade Carey Shares What It’s Like to Have the ‘Twisties’

Olympic Gymnast Jade Carey Shares What It’s Like to Have the ‘Twisties’ — Us Weekly

Olympic gymnast Jade Carey has opened up about her own battle with the “twisties,” a mental block that can cause a disconnect between a gymnast's brain and body.

apple.news

Olympic gymnast Jade Carey has opened up about her own battle with the “twisties,” a mental block that can cause a disconnect between a gymnast’s brain and body.


“It’s something a lot of us go through,” Carey shared in an interview

 

[Theatregirl1122]

Miyata has been withdrawn from the Olympics and Japan won't be replacing her. They're saying it's too late to replace her without an injury, but that seems to be based on a JOC rule? A little unclear. So the rest of the team will be forced to compete with only four gymnasts.

I understand that Japanese culture is different but this seems like it is really too much.

 

[Allskate]

Simone says that she is "unwell."

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[taz'smum]

So I just debuted my new gymnastics routine last night… Comments?

Andrew Chupp on Instagram: "Full floor routine from this weekend since Instagram is dumb and cut it off in my post! Level: Adult Coed Xcel Diamond Score: 9.825 #adultgymnastics"

34K likes, 1,231 comments - andrewchupp on June 2, 2024: "Full floor routine from this weekend since Instagram is dumb and cut it off in my post! Level: Adult Coed Xcel Diamond Score: 9.825 #adultgymnastics".

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Awesome!

 

[Karen-W]

Simone says that she is "unwell."

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That was from before their flight departed.

 

[Allskate]

An interview with Dominique Dawes, Dominique Moceanu, and Shannon Miller:

Dominique Moceanu, Shannon Miller, and Dominique Dawes Take a Victory Lap

After winning gold in Atlanta as teenagers, three iconic gymnasts reflect on 1996, their influence on women’s sports, and their hopes for the next generation of female athletes.

www.self.com

 

[Rukia]

lol that's not unwell in the physical sense it's unwell in the emotional sense like "omg i can't believe i am going to my 3rd olympics i am so unwell right now"

 

[Allskate]

lol that's not unwell in the physical sense it's unwell in the emotional sense like "omg i can't believe i am going to my 3rd olympics i am so unwell right now"

Yes, but given her history, that is really not a good thing.

 

[honey]

Yes, but given her history, that is really not a good thing.

You might be overthinking this just a little. This is a very common thing that the youngins say all the time. Can be applied to almost any situation for an Instagram caption. Saw a cute puppy on the street? You are unwell by how cute he is. Missed your train by 5 minutes? You are also unwell. Getting slightly verklempt at heading to a 3rd Olympics? You feel unwell then too.

I tend to think she’s just fine right now. One of the men being suspiciously masked at training has me more concerned than her Instagram caption.

 

[Rukia]

Yes, but given her history, that is really not a good thing.

actually a statement like this makes me think she's just fine lol trust me people use this all the time in positive ways

 

[Karen-W]

So basically it's today's teen slang version of verklempt?

 

[honey]

So basically it's today's teen slang version of verklempt?

It’s a very gen z style of speaking, overly dramatic for effect. I liken it to people saying that they were screaming (meaning with laughter) or “dying at” whatever situation, but in reality they were doing nothing beyond getting a chuckle inside their head.

 

[Rukia]

It’s a very gen z style of speaking, overly dramatic for effect. I liken it to people saying that they were screaming (meaning with laughter) or “dying at” whatever situation, but in reality they were doing nothing beyond getting a chuckle inside their head.

basically this. Like my friends post something funny and i'll say "I AM SCREAMING" if i find it delightful or i post a pic of taylor swift's new dress for the speak now era and my friend will reply "i am UNWELL" meaning she loves it and thinks it's beautiful lol like we are expected to be toned down all the time so this is a way to just get it all out

i just adapt with the ever-moving internet slang because sometimes it's useful (although not so much skibidi ohio and all that but never say never)

 

[dramagrrl]

Yeah, that thread is appalling.

Yikes. I can't say I'm that surprised - as I mentioned in my initial post, with gymnastics coaches these days, I hold my breath and basically wait until something negative is revealed.

 

[just tuned in]

It’s a very gen z style of speaking, overly dramatic for effect. I liken it to people saying that they were screaming (meaning with laughter) or “dying at” whatever situation, but in reality they were doing nothing beyond getting a chuckle inside their head.

SHE'S 27 YEARS OLD!!! Don't mess with OUR heads, Simone!

 

[honey]

SHE'S 27 YEARS OLD!!! Don't mess with OUR heads, Simone!

27 but has probably heard a non stop stream of this kind of language at the gym from her younger gen Z teammates for the last 2 or 3 years . It rubs off on you eventually .

If we see her trade her ankle socks for crew socks we’ll know she’s well and truly been influenced.

(Although she is technically gen z by most definitions with a 1997 birthday, so perhaps being unwell and crew socks are natural for her ).