From Russia With Love [#39]: Into Winter 2021

Vash01

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Russian media mentions all the gold medalists and all the ladies got personal congrats from the president. Why not Boikova/Kozlovski? How is Trusova's bronze different from theirs?
Trusova won the free skate and climbed from 12th to 3rd. B&K dropped from 1st in the SP to 5th in the LP. They were lucky to get the bronze.
 

love_skate2011

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Look whose coaching in the middle of nowhere (Anadyr, Chukotka)
So remote that food prices are more expensive and its closer to Alaska

 

Xela M

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Look whose coaching in the middle of nowhere (Anadyr, Chukotka)
So remote that food prices are more expensive and its closer to Alaska

Love Vera! What is she doing there?
 

taz'smum

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Official confirmation: Saint-Petersburg will host 2021/22 Russian Nationals. The dates are Dec, 21-26

Oh how I wish I could come to beautiful St. Petersburg!!

Though I think I'd take a rain check on the watching the 'Hunger Games bit' of the trip! 🤣😂🤣
 

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Sylvia

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"Stanislav Voytyuk, a Soviet figure skater, a talented director, and a participant in many ice shows, died. He died on April 1, at the age of 61, in the intensive care unit of a Moscow clinic, suffering from ********."
 

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Tutberidze's first "Champions on Ice" tour show took place in Kazan today (also with Sinitsina/Katsalapov, Tarasova/Morozov, Makar Ignatov, Davis/Smolkin):
First? I thought she already did one last year (or was it two years ago)? At the end there was a jumping contest, where all the quads and 3A were shown...
 

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Tamara Moskvina says that all her skaters, including herself, have been vaccinated
Yay!! Not Russian, but I’ve seen some Instagram stories of a few of the US skaters getting vaccinated as well.
 

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Haven’t had time yet, plan to watch today/tomorrow

No pressure! :). I may try the subtitles thing that @BittyBug suggested.

There were a few excerpts (at least I think they were from this interview) covered on "that site" that I google translated, one with Nikita talking about how if you had told him two months ago that they would be world champions he would never have believed it, and one with Vika talking about how usually she gets nervous before the short but not the free but this time she was so nervous before the free that she felt like her heart was leaping out of her chest. She said Nikita helped her through it and then once they started skating she got over it and was soon skating for pleasure. I actually remember her talking about the nerves before the short thing from a previous interview.
 

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Watching now

They guys came to the interview right from the practice. Nikita says he doesn't have any tradition to buy himself presents/ nice gifts after competitions/victories; Vika adds that unlike Nikita she always treats herself with a present if a competition goes smoothly, this time she bought a nice coat.
Emotions a week after - Nikita says that for him the strongest moment was when they were waiting for the scores after the FD. Probably for the first time ever he felt so emotionally exhausted that he couldn't put his hands up. Vika was extremely nervous before the FD and that was the most memorable thing about this event. Nikita helped her to cope with this emotions and she got over it in the beginning of the program and skated through the second part with a great pleasure.
Vika once said that her dream is to stay on the top of the podium with a gold medal in her hands and to sing the anthem, so she was asked if her dream came true here - No, the main dream has not come true yet ;)
Nikita says they were super ready for this event - all practices in last 3 week before the Worlds were great: at their home rink, in Novogorsk (adds that it was a great chance to train and to some extent compete with other Russian teams at this camp) and at the official practices. The latter is the most important, as all top teams in the world except P/C were there and S/K were able to show their best at all practices with the only exception - the last practice of the FD day. Probably because of that they both were so nervous, and as a lot of coaches usually say, it's harder to keep your position rather than to pursue and have nothing to lose. Both says that unlike singles, they can't just leave during the official practice and not skate their program. Judges are always watching and pay attention to edges, turns, steps in the step sequences and etc, as it's hard for them to look and check both partners during the actual competitions, so they do some notes in advance. So all in all they had 5 days of skating in front of the judges.

When did they feel that they can compete and chase after P/C
Nikita: Maybe if I was looking from the side and was not competing right now, I could have given you a different answer, but right now, when we are focusing on the most important season that lies ahead, the most important thing it to compete with ourselves. We don't look at them everyday and think that we need to beat them, no, we have to improve our own skating. A boring answer but it is as it is.
Vika: For me it was the 2018/19 season, when we felt for the first time that we can compete with P/C. After that season we understood that we are working in a right way and do the right thing.
Nikita says that he could be wrong, but he liked to think that they had the best tango RD that year. The whole team put lot's of efforts in that program and they liked it a lot.

When asked about their most significant program, both said Bach, 'Air'.
It gave them the air to breath after a hard season, when they couldn't show their great Rachmaninoff program in a way it was choreographed due to injuries.
That (2017/18) season was a moment of a complete disaster, but it also gave an opportunity to reborn and gain something new as well.
Nikita says his leg hurt a lot back then but they decided to compete. Vika had to skate for both of them almost literally. The things went surprisingly well and they skated clean and sharp in the beginning of the FD at Nationals but then they just couldn't end, it hurt that much. Vika says she really wanted for them to end the program no matter what and she was ready to do everything that was in her power.

About switching coaches and coming back to Zhulin
Nikita called him and Zhulin agreed to listen to him (background story - after I/K left Zhulin, they didn't talk and didn't have anything in common, only greeted each other at competitions). Zhulin didn't come for the first meeting, he sent Petr Durnev instead. They had a long talk with him and got a call from Zhulin few days after that, he came prepared for the next meeting and even proposed few ideas for the programs. Nikita says huge thanks to Bobrova/Soloviev and Tiff/Jon because all the guys met them with open arms and the atmosphere was great.
Vika was a bit shy and nervous because she has never worked with Zhulin and didn't know him at all.

Back to tango. Nikita says they would like to turn that program into a great exhibition (except for the swizzles, because who needs twizzles?). Also says that they enjoyed dancing it on the flour as well.
When they firstly came to Zueva and were two completely opposite people with different techniques, abilities, everything; she scheduled all dance classes for them, involved everyone she knew to work with them. Vika says they had new classes everyday, tried many disciplines and even back then they liked Argentine tango the most.
More about tango, glances of passion and ect

- Was their trip to the USA a mistake?
Both says that definitely no. They got to know each other, they gained a lot from that experience, they learnt how to work hard. It took very long to gel as a team, both agrees that they couldn't even think it would take that long in the very beginning. Nikita honestly adds that Lena and Ruslan achieved that it less time, while S/K needed at least three years. Vika knew she would need to work extremely hard, but also didn't expect that long period.

- When did Nikita forget that he is an Olympic champion?
I didn't think about it all the time, but of course still had that thought somewhere deep in my head. But I totally let it go only when we returned to Zhulin: I fell, lost everything, didn't end that Rach program..
Skating with an Olympic champion and arguable the most talented ice dancer of that generation was not easy for Vika either, starting from the fans reaction and the fact that she was 18 back then, had to move to the other side of the world without the language and any experience. But she had a goal and was ready to work, she didn't leave the gym and dance room back then - Marina work a lot with her, Oleg Epstein, choreographer, everyone.

Have to go now, will translate the second part and correct all mistakes later 🙃
 
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"Skating with an Olympic champion and arguable the most talented ice dancer of that generation was not easy for Vika either, starting from the fans reaction and the fact that she was 18 back then, had to move to the other side of the world without the language and any experience. But she had a goal and was ready to work, she didn't leave the gym and dance room back then - Marina work a lot with her, Oleg Epstein, choreographer, everyone."

Somehow I don't think Nikita needs to be reminded that he is the "most talented ice dancer of the Generation". He doesn't seem to lack for the self confidence
 

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spoiler alert: if I grasped it correctly, a discussion of the infamous lucky turtleneck is yet to come... :)
 

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Part 2

There are two types of people: some are more talented and naturally gifted, and some need to work harder and do 50 repetitions of each move - Vika is among the latter. But as she says, she is sure that if she does something, she will succeed no matter how much time she will have to spend on it.
Vika says that she came to an understanding that she has 100% caught up Nikita by 2018/19 season. The interviewer later asked Nikita in a playful manner by when did Vika best him :lol:

When Zhulin suggested Air FD to them, they both found it too boring, but that was also a point - Zhulin wanted to tame them down.
Nikita jokes that he was often told by different coaches (both his coaches and other specialists) that he has to stop jumping through hoops, but it came only with age and experience. The key now is in 'steady and calm' approach, Nikita adds that now he totally understands that you can be confident in yourself only if you work hard and train a lot.

I lost the connection between questions and answers for a bit, but Nikita really loved that Rachmaninov FD they didn't have a chance to skate to its full potential.

About childhood and first steps on the ice, they both started skating in Moscow but did they cross each others paths before they team up or? No, they knew each other only by names and saw each other for the first time at Averbukh/Lobacheva school but Nikita was older and already skating with Lena.

How did Nikita asked Vika to team up with him?
Nikita says he just asked and didn't choose from anyone else. Vika agreed without any consultations, said her parents that she wants to try and they supported her.

About next season
Zhulin thinks about the RD for now, but they have already found 2 ideas for the FD and then added another 3, so are in discussion and close to the final decision.
It looks like Zhulin has better luck with the rhythm dances - he brought both tango music and Singing in the rain.
spoiler alert: if I grasped it correctly, a discussion of the infamous lucky turtleneck is yet to come... :)
Yes, Nikita says he loved the first suit and he judges all the people who were against it. But they were asked to change it (by Russian Fed/judges I assume) few days before Euros, so he had to bought the turtleneck in the clothing store, they took few pics, sent it to Federation, everyone liked it, so he had to skate in it at Euros.
Vika says her tango dress was her favorite costume, Nikita adds her Swan Lake dress and she agrees as well.

Back to this season - started training at the maximum only 2 months ago, so they are only getting in their best shape now, missed that feeling and the ice. The season was very hard and not knowing what to expect was the most difficult part of it.
Nikita says he would not have believed it if someone told him 2 months ago that they gonna win Worlds - they were simply not ready, completely out of shape, returning to last year's program, didn't know how their bodies would react with past injuries/c-19 consequences and etc. But in the end it all came together and it felt like there was a right amount of time left to prepare for Worlds.

The interviewer asked then if they remember the ending pose of V/M Mahler's FD and what words did Scott say there
Nikita: I love you?
Interviewer: no, thank you
So he later asked whenever they guys had a moment like this any time in their careers when they wanted to say something to each other during the program. It's very unusual for Vika and at this year's Worlds she said some secret similar words to Nikita right before the step sequence, and he was very surprised because she never does it. And she adds that she was just enjoying it so much, so she wanted to share her feelings.

Fin :)
 
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mjb52

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haha he's a secret Tessa/Scott shipper, love it. :) He brings them up a lot in interviews.

Thank you so much again @Ka3sha

I liked it all, but it was especially interesting to get more insight into Vika, she's more ambitious/driven I think than people realize.
 

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Vika says that she came to an understanding that she has 100% caught up Nikita by 2018/19 season. The interviewer later asked Nikita in a playful manner by when did Vika best him :lol:

I would say around last season :rofl:

I lost the connection between questions and answers for a bit, but Nikita really loved that Rachmaninov FD they didn't have a chance to skate to its full potential.

Zhulin said once that he always wanted to skate an FD to Rachmaninoff's second piano concerto with Usova. This could have been a masterpiece. It's a real shame they couldn't develop that idea. I've even considered that they could use it for this Olympics but it could be risky since they already did it 4 years ago.
It looks like Zhulin has better luck with the rhythm dances - he brought both tango music and Singing in the rain.

They have really established themselves as the best RD specialists in ice dance this quad. I really hope they take swing next season. They had a decent feel for it back in 2017, but they were very out of shape that season and had problems with levels. Their tango ballet FD that season was also very interesting but it was more of an impression that it could be great, because their skating was messy.
The interviewer asked then if they remember the ending pose of V/M Mahler's FD and what words did Scott say there
Nikita: I love you?

He is a shipper. :rofl:
So he later asked whenever they guys had a moment like this any time in their careers when they wanted to say something to each other during the program. It's very unusual for Vika and at this year's Worlds she said some secret similar words to Nikita right before the step sequence, and he was very surprised because she never does it. And she adds that she was just enjoying it so ,much, so she wanted to share her feelings.
I really felt this. Without the audience, they really projected their emotions to each other. There was that lovely moment when they stop in front of the judges and look at each other. It felt really genuine from both. I feel like he's calmed down a lot, in his skating, and his personality, and she is just lovely.
 

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