From Russia With Love [#37]: Summer 2020

[hanca]

I think this poaching should stop, few skaters are okay, but he is trying to get all the skaters from the group. I wasn't too found of Evgeny, but this is not doing much for him.

I don’t believe that poaching really exist. Happy skaters won’t change coaches; the skaters who decided to change were not happy in the first place. I think it is easy for the ‘abandoned’ coach to blame the new coach, but maybe they should be thinking about what made the skater unhappy and why the skater felt they want to leave.

 

[Deleted member 40371]

Rudkovskaya already responded

"It's unfortunate that there are ignorant people for whom laws don't exist. Hopefully, their (Team Tutberidze) lawyers will explain section 138 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation to them. In between practices."

If Plushenko asks Putin will make new rules for him as well....

 

[twizzletoes76]

Rudkovskaya already responded

"It's unfortunate that there are ignorant people for whom laws don't exist. Hopefully, their (Team Tutberidze) lawyers will explain section 138 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation to them. In between practices."

Uh-oh! Time to hide the babies! Looks like Yana is getting her law books out and sharpening her claws to be ready. I see a new girl-fight coming! ?

 

[mjb52]

Maybe this is all hype and Yana and Eteri are really friends lol (I don't really think that)

 

[starrynight]

Rudkovskaya already responded

"It's unfortunate that there are ignorant people for whom laws don't exist. Hopefully, their (Team Tutberidze) lawyers will explain section 138 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation to them. In between practices."

I’m so confused. What is happening?

 

[Spikefan]

Ditto

 

[muffinplus]

Leonova has already weighed in...

 

[Perky Shae Lynn]

Uh-oh! Time to hide the babies! Looks like Yana is getting her law books out and sharpening her claws to be ready. I see a new girl-fight coming! ?

Why is it that every time women get into a conflict, we (both women and men) default to demeaning terms like "sharpening her claws" and "girl-fight"? Lets stop for a minute and think.

 

[hanca]

I am disappointed that Alina let herself be be pulled into the adult fight between Pluschenko and Tutberidze’s school. At her age, she is practically retired. Even though she didn’t make the decision publicly, the chance of her coming back is not that great, and even if she did, she would not be really competitive with the current crop of youngsters and she would retire a few years later, without much more success. She is likely to either work for shows, or start coaching. There is not that many shows, even in Russia, and there was no need to try to make her personal enemy from Pluschenko. She doesn’t really know when she will need the income and it is not as if Pluschenko or his wife did something offensive. They might have offered her to swap the rink/school; the polite thing is to respond (yes or no) and let it go, not showing it to her current coaches who will start WW3.

 

[muffinplus]

Yeah but who knows if Alina was aware of it... not sure how much access to her social media her agents have

 

[hanca]

Yeah but who knows if Alina was aware of it... not sure how much access to her social media her agents have

If she is aware of it? She is the one who had to share her phone with Tutberidze/Gleikenhaus/Dudakov.

If organisation in your field contacts you and offers you a job, because you are professional who has decent results in your field and they need someone with your specialisation, it is ok to decline if you are happy in your current job, but it is a bit shortsighted to make enemies because one doesn’t know when they will be looking after another job. Sadly, Alina didn’t learn that life lesson yet. I know she is the olympic champion, but Russia has quite a few of them, so she is not that special within Russia to have the guarantee that she would always get a job in a show.

 

[starrynight]

Zagitova is still probably in the mindset where she would do anything to attract the favour and approval of her coaches. This is a big public show of support to Zagitova from Tutberidze and that probably makes Zagitova feel good.

I don't think that this would make an enemy of Plushenko etc. It's not Zagitova that put the messages on social networks. I'm sure that if Zagitova wanted to be in a Plushenko show later on her would agree to the business relationship.

The whole thing is so exceedingly childish I don't find it interesting. Coaches make offers to students all the time. We've just seen the transfer of Medvedeva to Tutberidze and schools like Sambo 70 collect students from other groups regularly.

I think this is all just stoking media attention because there is little international skating happening.

 

[zebraswan]

Who cares what Plushenko or Yana think, of all people. Alina will be just fine. I don't see where a lack of professional behavior has ever hindered anyone involved in Russian skating. On the contrary, it seems to be the norm.

 

[kwanfan1818]

Zagitova has been loyal to her coaches. I don't see anything wrong with that.

I think Team Tutberidze should have laughed it off, though. Revenge is something best served cold.

 

[CaliSteve]

If she is aware of it? She is the one who had to share her phone with Tutberidze/Gleikenhaus/Dudakov.

If organisation in your field contacts you and offers you a job, because you are professional who has decent results in your field and they need someone with your specialisation, it is ok to decline if you are happy in your current job, but it is a bit shortsighted to make enemies because one doesn’t know when they will be looking after another job. Sadly, Alina didn’t learn that life lesson yet. I know she is the olympic champion, but Russia has quite a few of them, so she is not that special within Russia to have the guarantee that she would always get a job in a show.

What Muffinplus meant was Alina may not have control of all her social media accounts. In this case, Facebook. The messages could have been intercepted.

 

[thvu]

What Muffinplus meant was Alina may not have control of all her social media accounts. In this case, Facebook. The messages could have been intercepted.

Then hopefully it matters to her that she is being dragged into this.

She either was complicit or not. If she was, then I agree with all of @hanca ’s criticisms and concerns. If she wasn’t, then I hope it concerns Alina that her name and the messages meant for her are being used by other parties for pettiness, that people are abusing her trust for their own selfish reasons.

 

[muffinplus]

Rudkovskaya said she doesn't think Alina was the one who showed it to Tutberidze anyways, so I don't think she has made enemies there ?

 

[Tinami Amori]

Re Pluschenko/Rudkovskaya saga. They constantly want attention and keep publishing provocative and attention gathering comments; and as well they pay some sport writers to constantly publish some hype about Pluschenko's club and skaters.

They go at it especially strong when Tutberidize's skaters have success. Last week into this week Eteri's Senior and Junior girl won the Russian Cup 1, and Medvedeva returned. Pluschenko/Rudkovsky team started to run their mouths.

As well, Pluschenko poached 2 more skaters, this time from other well known clubs/coaches, it did not make the press on it's own, but Pluschenko made sure it makes the news. The Russian Skating Feds are getting concerned as to what's going on, especially since Kostornaya is not in the top condition, and Trusova is not as jumpy as before. Kostornaya's transfer has not been made official, even as of now. The Feds are making vague comments about not knowing anything official about the transfer, receiving no paperwork or requests, thus the transfer is not official.

Renat Layshev, who is a director of Sambo-70 Club which hold Khrystalny Rink, is now making comments that he'll make an effort to return Trusova and Kostornaya to their club/rink, because he, Layshev, is blamed by the Skating Feds for letting this situation happen and/or get out of hand.

Pluschenko/Rudkovskaya hear the bits and pieces of what others say about them (a lot of people in sports do not approve of their recent actions and behavior) and stated "we do not poach skaters, they come to us", and took a dig at Tutberidze that she lying about "poaching". In return they got what they got - a published post they sent to Alina and her rejection, to prove that they are lying.

At lot of what Pluschenko/Rudkovskaya do, post, publish in Russia and in Russian does not make the English language media and sites, but lets just say they are "so loud and nasty" that people in sports and authorities in sports are starting to react and to talk.

 

[Tinami Amori]

Samarin is back in training, practicing quads.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEzLRz0JD5s/

 

[Tinami Amori]

Moris Kvitelashvili posts a portion of his SP (practicing with Eteri): My new short program music in the coming season will be - Jacques Brel - Amsterdam

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFhQ8IaJEhO/

 

[lala]

BTW, Alina Zagitova is following Rudkovskaya after the scandal .

Eteri's income from the skaters: 50-50 from the prize money, from all shows, advertisements and TV projects! And don't forget about 30 thousand in an envelope every month.

Leonid Sviridenko :

«Я пришел кататься с Плющенко». Как 19-летний фигурист переехал из Петербурга в Москву

Первая цель – попадание в сборную России.

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"I came to skate with Plushenko." How a 19-year-old skater moved from St. Petersburg to Moscow
The first goal is to get into the Russian national team

 

[skatfan]

This is my big question - why forge a letter and rick a ban when you could, you know, just file the retirement paperwork?

I imagine that you cannot, after the testers show up, avoid the results of that test counting by submitting your retirement paperwork afterwards.

 

[Tinami Amori]

I don't care about the article of the student who transferred "freely". First of all this student is a newcomer without results, second, Pluschenko/Rudkovskaya will not make ALL his recent transfers give an interview that they "did it on their own".

Rudkovskaya already wrote the script of what to say to Kostornaya in her interview during Test Skate, and the one for Trusova right after the move. Tarakanova was "gushing" how great it is at Angels, until the truth came out, and where is she now?

BTW, Alina Zagitova is following Rudkovskaya after the scandal .

She is not, it is her manager who oversees her IG account. Like they say keep friends close but the enemies closer.

Pluschenko/Rudkovskaya today are after a magazine, addressing a complaint to Putin, in their son's name (gnom-gnomych). StarHit publication is one of many who are questioning the role of their son in media and commercials, finding his constant exposure and usage to be abusive and not good for his development. And this is what "Gnom-Gnomych" aka Rudkovskaya said to Putin.

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"I would like to address this to my favorite (loving) President, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. Can you please tell the magazine StarHit not to write bad things about me, or children in general. Please give them a Law that prohibits them to write bad things about me without permission of my children."

 

[PRlady]

I don't care about the article of the student who transferred "freely". First of all this student is a newcomer without results, second, Pluschenko/Rudkovskaya will not make ALL his recent transfers give an interview that they "did it on their own".

Rudkovskaya already wrote the script of what to say to Kostornaya in her interview during Test Skate, and the one for Trusova right after the move. Tarakanova was "gushing" how great it is at Angels, until the truth came out, and where is she now?


She is not, it is her manager who oversees her IG account. Like they say keep friends close but the enemies closer.

Pluschenko/Rudkovskaya today are after a magazine, addressing a complaint to Putin, in their son's name (gnom-gnomych). StarHit publication is one of many who are questioning the role of their son in media and commercials, finding his constant exposure and usage to be abusive and not good for his development. And this is what "Gnom-Gnomych" aka Rudkovskaya said to Putin.

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"I would like to address this to my favorite (loving) President, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. Can you please tell the magazine StarHit not to write bad things about me, or children in general. Please give them a Law that prohibits them to write bad things about me without permission of my children."

Oh puke.

 

[Ka3sha]

Renat Layshev, who is a director of Sambo-70 Club which hold Khrystalny Rink, is now making comments that he'll make an effort to return Trusova and Kostornaya to their club/rink, because he, Layshev, is blamed by the Skating Feds for letting this situation happen and/or get out of hand.

Renat Liashev has been making a lot of comments in last few weeks, that's true.
Including ones where he told about Alina Zagitova's and Sambo-70 nepotism in RANEPA (the university Alina is studying at), 'a judoka from Ryazan' (aka Trusova's father), who doesn't get to choose where his daughter should study/train and also that 'some plushenkos (deliberate mistake) are lazy slackers.

There's no 'right' or 'wrong' side in this conflict. Both teams and all other parties involved behave like stupid teenagers trying to prove their egos and legacy.
All I have to say: Skating God bless Mishin and Moskvina.

 

[hanca]

There's no 'right' or 'wrong' side in this conflict. Both teams and all other parties involved behave like stupid teenagers trying to prove their egos and legacy.
All I have to say: Skating God bless Mishin and Moskvina.

Perhaps, but if everyone behaved like Mishin and Moskvina, the off seasons would be boring. Let’s face it, when there is no skating, we are grateful for every bit of skating scandal Russian coaches can arrange for us.

 

[Bigbird]

Perhaps, but if everyone behaved like Mishin and Moskvina, the off seasons would be boring. Let’s face it, when there is no skating, we are grateful for every bit of skating scandal Russian coaches can arrange for us.

 

[Tinami Amori]

There's no 'right' or 'wrong' side in this conflict. Both teams and all other parties involved behave like stupid teenagers trying to prove their egos and legacy.

You are wrong. When Plushenko is openly lying about the poaching situation yet accuses Tutberidze of lying, her ONLY OPTION to save her reputation is to prove him wrong.

It is ridiculous that hate or disapproval for Tutberidze makes fans like you blind, that they take a clear situation where she had no choice and turn it against her. She has to fan off the attacks, and when attacks are ugly, her replies are harsh.

Pluschenko/Rudkovskaya, in the last year has made many enemies because of their actions/behavior/comments, to name a few Auerbuch, Yagudin, Tarakanova, several Football celebrities, several sports publications, etc. They want to fight with everybody, invent problems that are either minor or do not exist, and then try to sue people, when people react. Every week Plusch/Rudkovskaya is ready to fight a new entity.

Now St. Petersburg coach Tataurov is pissed at them for poaching his skater, who left him abruptly without a work.
"Pluschenko yet again damages his reputation, this time in his own town of St. Petersburg".

Плющенко снова подмочил свою репутацию. Теперь в практически родном Петербурге

Камень преткновения – переход Свириденко во внетрансферное окно.

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[lala]

You are wrong. When Plushenko is openly lying about the poaching situation yet accuses Tutberidze of lying, her ONLY OPTION to save her reputation is to prove him wrong.

It is ridiculous that hate or disapproval for Tutberidze makes fans like you blind, that they take a clear situation where she had no choice and turn it against her. She has to fan off the attacks, and when attacks are ugly, her replies are harsh.

Pluschenko/Rudkovskaya, in the last year has made many enemies because of their actions/behavior/comments, to name a few Auerbuch, Yagudin, Tarakanova, several Football celebrities, several sports publications, etc. They want to fight with everybody, invent problems that are either minor or do not exist, and then try to sue people, when people react. Every week Plusch/Rudkovskaya is ready to fight a new entity.

Now St. Petersburg coach Tataurov is pissed at them for poaching his skater, who left him abruptly without a work.
"Pluschenko yet again damages his reputation, this time in his own town of St. Petersburg".

Плющенко снова подмочил свою репутацию. Теперь в практически родном Петербурге

Камень преткновения – переход Свириденко во внетрансферное окно.

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Tinami this post is disgusting. Full of fakes. Plus Eteri also lied not once, too if I want to follow you. Both of the team not are saint. That would be great if the tax authority is not going to make investigation with her. Tataurov? Didn'tsay this just a journalist wanted to make a hype with it. Sviridenko cleared he wanted to go there. He wasn't lurked. She is a smart adult guy not a baby boy. Probably this is his last chance. While the media is loud from the scandals, skaters see opportunity in the new Plush's school.
Are you joking with me when you mentioned Averbukh, Yagudin names? LOL!

 

[lala]

Perhaps, but if everyone behaved like Mishin and Moskvina, the off seasons would be boring. Let’s face it, when there is no skating, we are grateful for every bit of skating scandal Russian coaches can arrange for us.