From Russia with Love [#30]: If There Are Test Skate Videos, It Must Be Fall 2018

[alchemy void]

Can we cancel TAT yet?

 

[Tinami Amori]

Can we cancel TAT yet?

She was just awarded an EFFY TV prize for "best sports commentator" by Russian Channel 1....
https://tass.ru/obschestvo/5633362

Tarasova thinks she is helping her buddy Boyanova by giving a nudge to Boyanova's skater Radionova. TAT used to be Radionova's supporter and mentor, she honestly believes she is doing her a favor by pushing in the right direction.

 

[lala]

She was just awarded an EFFY TV prize for "best sports commentator" by Russian Channel 1....
https://tass.ru/obschestvo/5633362

Tarasova thinks she is helping her buddy Boyanova by giving a nudge to Boyanova's skater Radionova. TAT used to be Radionova's supporter and mentor, she honestly believes she is doing her a favor by pushing in the right direction.

Radionova was TAT's favorite

 

[Tinami Amori]

Radionova was TAT's favorite

TAT's "favorites" change all the time, the key prerequisite to become one is to a) treat TAT as a Godmother of Figure Skating, b) have an "honorable guest" place for her at the rink and let her meddle in your programmes, costumes and sometimes life.. c) and it is even better when "meddling" comes with earning opportunities, paid for foreign travel/trips, and be allowed to sit in Kiss-n-Cry.. http://www.fskate.ru/photos2/image26795.jpg

Stand in attention in front of her, and you're her favorite...
https://juniorstv.ru/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/127A2317-1.jpg

She lost me when she said on natl. TV that "going to the Olympics 2018 (for us Russians) is like entering a concentration camp"..
https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1975988/

 

[Willin]

I doubt Radionova's struggles have to do with weight as much as they have to do with her poor jumping technique.

 

[lala]

TAT's "favorites" change all the time, the key prerequisite to become one is to a) treat TAT as a Godmother of Figure Skating, b) have an "honorable guest" place for her at the rink and let her meddle in your programmes, costumes and sometimes life.. c) and it is even better when "meddling" comes with earning opportunities, paid for foreign travel/trips, and be allowed to sit in Kiss-n-Cry..

She lost me when she said on natl. TV that "going to the Olympics 2018 (for us Russians) is like entering a concentration camp"..
https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1975988/

TAT could tell her opinion about Elena's weight secretly not in public.. shame on TAT.

 

[Tinami Amori]

I doubt Radionova's struggles have to do with weight as much as they have to do with her poor jumping technique.

Radionova will probably always face the "weight discussions" partially because of an uppity interview she gave in 2015, saying she never has to watch her weight, and can eat anything she wants; that she does not like veggies and eats lots of sweets at will..

https://www.sovsport.ru/others/figu...-mne-ne-nuzhny-diety-ja-dazhe-ne-vzveshivajus
- I can eat whatever i want. I don't limit myself in anything. By the way, i don't like veggies. If i want to eat something sweet with lots of calories, i don't even give it a second thought (and eat it). If i want something, i eat it. And i see that i don't gain any weight at all, so i don't need to weigh myself. Can't even remember when i bothered with it the last time. How do i do it? Hard to say, maybe because i expand a lot of energy on the ice.

TAT could tell her opinion about Elena's weight secretly not in public.. shame on TAT.

TAT started speaking publicly about Radionova's weight back in mid Sept this year (claiming she did try to tell her in private).

 

[Tinami Amori]

Masaru (Alina's dog), no kidding, has an official endorsement, and will now represent "Airweave Pet Beds"..
- https://www.instagram.com/p/BohgwP8nflW/?taken-by=teamzagitova
- https://www.instagram.com/p/Bog4VgJH_2w/?taken-by=teamzagitova

 

[synchrogirl17]

Poor Radionova, weight should not be commented on like that, especially in public... Besides, she is still very slender - she is simply not a child anymore! Very few women stay stick-thin...

 

[zebraswan]

Does TAT own a mirror? Yes, I know she hasn't been an athlete since dinosaurs roamed the earth, but if controlling weight was so easy, then you'd think she would look quite different herself.

Even if Elena were in perfect shape, she has so many other issues, from the poor posture to labored-looking spins and jumps and trashy programs, that I can't see her ever coming back. She could do shows and her fans would probably be happy to see her there. Is she really going to show up to SA like this? She admitted she's not in the best form, but 2 weeks are not enough to get there. What did she do all summer? I feel bad for the other Russian girls without GPs who at least made an effort.

 

[Tinami Amori]

Does TAT own a mirror? Yes, I know she hasn't been an athlete since dinosaurs roamed the earth, but if controlling weight was so easy, then you'd think she would look quite different herself.

She does own a mirror... and had to address her own weight issue in public in the past. Some years ago she developed a diet plan for herself, and for athletes, and lost 30 kg (~60 lbs).
http://www.sportobzor.ru/avtorskie-diety/dieta-tatyany-tarasovoy.html

At that time it was important for TAT to publicly lose weight, because she started to appear on Television, and had to look good. And she actually did demonstrate great will power and lost weight (30kg).
http://club-mam.com/upload/iblock/45e/45eec9687dd36969cce27c2b42810fd3.jpg

And then went to the next stage, and lost 40 kg total (~80 lbs total). And she did it in 7 weeks.....
https://slimin.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2-tatyana-40-kg.png

Her message was "lose weight in weeks, write down my methods"
http://cs6.pikabu.ru/post_img/2015/07/07/8/1436276790_804249746.jpg

Then she had to deal with some health issue and few years later it was this....
http://star-magazine.ru/wp-content/...529ccf56bd69302980fcfc74c5fa3b07c-600x390.jpg

Even if Elena were in perfect shape, she has so many other issues, from the poor posture to labored-looking spins and jumps and trashy programs, that I can't see her ever coming back. She could do shows and her fans would probably be happy to see her there. Is she really going to show up to SA like this? She admitted she's not in the best form, but 2 weeks are not enough to get there. What did she do all summer? I feel bad for the other Russian girls without GPs who at least made an effort.

Some people believe that TAT is trying to put all the blame for poor performances on Radionova, to take off the pressure and blame from Boyanova.

There are talks that something is also going on with Boyanova, and rumors that she maybe retiring, because she seems to be spending less time at the rink (and there are videos from little girls her students who say she never came to practice or left early), and few other "indicators". Also, some believe that Boyanova is more interested in Jr. students for 2020, than in the 3 older girls, Tsur, Rad, Sotskova (who is now full time enrolled in University).

 

[Cherub721]

Even if Elena were in perfect shape, she has so many other issues, from the poor posture to labored-looking spins and jumps and trashy programs, that I can't see her ever coming back.

Gee, there's a nice positive defense from TAT's comments...

 

[alice73]

She does own a mirror... and had to address her own weight issue in public in the past. Some years ago she developed a diet plan for herself, and for athletes, and lost 30 kg (~60 lbs).
http://www.sportobzor.ru/avtorskie-diety/dieta-tatyany-tarasovoy.html

At that time it was important for TAT to publicly lose weight, because she started to appear on Television, and had to look good. And she actually did demonstrate great will power and lost weight (30kg).
http://club-mam.com/upload/iblock/45e/45eec9687dd36969cce27c2b42810fd3.jpg

And then went to the next stage, and lost 40 kg total (~80 lbs total). And she did it in 7 weeks.....
https://slimin.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2-tatyana-40-kg.png

Her message was "lose weight in weeks, write down my methods"
http://cs6.pikabu.ru/post_img/2015/07/07/8/1436276790_804249746.jpg

Then she had to deal with some health issue and few years later it was this....
http://star-magazine.ru/wp-content/...529ccf56bd69302980fcfc74c5fa3b07c-600x390.jpg


Some people believe that TAT is trying to put all the blame for poor performances on Radionova, to take off the pressure and blame from Boyanova.

There are talks that something is also going on with Boyanova, and rumors that she maybe retiring, because she seems to be spending less time at the rink (and there are videos from little girls her students who say she never came to practice or left early), and few other "indicators". Also, some believe that Boyanova is more interested in Jr. students for 2020, than in the 3 older girls, Tsur, Rad, Sotskova (who is now full time enrolled in University).

TAT indeed lost weight at some point but the photos used in your post, where she’s wearing suits with revealing cleavage, are clearly photoshopped. That’s not TAT’s body! And she would never dress like that.

 

[Tinami Amori]

TAT indeed lost weight at some point but the photos used in your post, where she’s wearing suits with revealing cleavage, are clearly photoshopped. That’s not TAT’s body! And she would never dress like that.

The fotos looked odd too me to, VERY odd..... but they come from "pust-govoryat.ru" programme site.....
http://pust-govoriat.ru/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/pust-govoryat-tatyana-tarasova.jpg
and youtube stuff for her diet...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HofIhisXKvo

regardless, she dealt with diets..

 

[zebraswan]

Gee, there's a nice positive defense from TAT's comments...

Every skater has things they need to work on, but she's never shown any improvement over multiple seasons now, and to my knowledge she's never had major setbacks like a serious injury, unlike Polina or Anna, for example. So when you have about a dozen other Russian ladies who do put in the work to improve and more in the pipeline...yeah, it's hard to see a way forward for her. Never been a fan, to be honest, but I still don't think TAT's comments are helpful to her or to anyone else. Especially since being in good form is about much more than weight.

 

[Ananas Astra]

These pics are clearly photoshopped. I remember it well when TAT indeed lost a lot of weight. "Ice Age" or one of its predecessors was on TV and I happened to watch it with my mom while I was also on a diet and she always told me about TAT's

 

[Tinami Amori]

These pics are clearly photoshopped. I remember it well when TAT indeed lost a lot of weight. "Ice Age" or one of its predecessors was on TV and I happened to watch it with my mom while I was also on a diet and she always told me about TAT's

ha... How about these? it's about the time of Ice Age and some of her "diet" interviews..
http://cdn01.ru/files/users/images/d5/bd/d5bd0432f8d182258a0a4b1c99551e98.jpg
http://poxudeem.ru/uploads/posts/2015-09/1442318376_ta-after.jpg
http://idunn.org/uploads/posts/2015-10/1445956511_90ecac1aaeac208f34af69eb162e97bb.png

She then was on I. Urgant's cooking show making a dish and it did NOT look like a diet..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvC66bOoywA

 

[Ananas Astra]

ha... How about these? it's about the time of Ice Age and some of her "diet" interviews..
http://cdn01.ru/files/users/images/d5/bd/d5bd0432f8d182258a0a4b1c99551e98.jpg
http://poxudeem.ru/uploads/posts/2015-09/1442318376_ta-after.jpg
http://idunn.org/uploads/posts/2015-10/1445956511_90ecac1aaeac208f34af69eb162e97bb.png

She then was on I. Urgant's cooking show making a dish and it did NOT look like a diet..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvC66bOoywA

Those pics are real. As someone else said she'd never dress the way it is in the other pics. Moreover, they used one photo of her head for two shopped pictures.

 

[alchemy void]

Her lutzes and flips seem pretty much < if not << for one of them at least.

True. I thought the > for the first lutz was borderline (and regardless it's a such a pretty 3z3r), but the flip and lutz were definitely under. However, since she repeats the lutz I'm assuming she can do this jump fully rotated at least part of the time. And TES aside, I think she's a good skater and it's a nice, engaging program.

I'm not saying Nugumanova is perfect or a contender to make the Euros team, but my point is, I think she proved she deserves a shot at an international competition sometime this year, especially considering the current form of Radionova, Panekova, Sotskova, and Tsurkaya.

 

[Ka3sha]

@Eislauffan 's interview with Elizaveta Tuktamysheva for RFSF
https://fsrussia.ru/intervyu/3968-elizaveta-tuktamysheva-eta-pobeda-byla-vazhnee-dlya-menya.html

She had the flue before the event - felt okay during the short program, but felt tired before the free skate, wasn't sure if she could make it through the skate. So she is happy with her skate and the fact that she got over herself.

 

[PRlady]

True. I thought the > for the first lutz was borderline (and regardless it's a such a pretty 3z3r), but the flip and lutz were definitely under. However, since she repeats the lutz I'm assuming she can do this jump fully rotated at least part of the time. And TES aside, I think she's a good skater and it's a nice, engaging program.

I'm not saying Nugumanova is perfect or a contender to make the Euros team, but my point is, I think she proved she deserves a shot at an international competition sometime this year, especially as considering the current form of Radionova, Panekova, Sotskova, and Tsurkaya.

What happened with Panekova? I missed whatever event she skated at....

 

[Sylvia]

What happened with Panekova? I missed whatever event she skated at....

She finished 8th in Senior Ladies at the 2nd Russian Cup competition - thread in Kiss & Cry: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...ional-competitions.104282/page-8#post-5428428

Top 8:
1 Anna SHCHERBAKOVA MOA 227.27 1 1
2 Elizaveta NUGUMANOVA SPB 200.51 3 3
3 Maria Talalaykina SPB 198.86 4 2
4 Elizaveta Shillenko SPB 187.15 2 6
5 Alina Solovyeva SPB 185.92 7 4
6 Polina TSURSKAYA MOA 184.09 6 5
7 Alёna LEONOVA SPB 176.51 5 8
8 Daria PANENKOVA MOA 162.06 11 7
...
WD Elena RADIONOVA MOA

 

[Tinami Amori]

True. I thought the > for the first lutz was borderline (and regardless it's a such a pretty 3z3r), but the flip and lutz were definitely under. However, since she repeats the lutz I'm assuming she can do this jump fully rotated at least part of the time. And TES aside, I think she's a good skater and it's a nice, engaging program.

I'm not saying Nugumanova is perfect or a contender to make the Euros team, but my point is, I think she proved she deserves a shot at an international competition sometime this year, especially as considering the current form of Radionova, Panekova, Sotskova, and Tsurkaya.

Nugumanova skated very well at this event. Yet a month ago at "St. Petersburg's Cup I" she placed only 6th. And at St. Pete II she won... So it depends on how she performs from here on and at Nationals.

Current: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRXLUfcUz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeBjtpemYdo

St. Pete I: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvQP_klyOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0I1CifdWxA

St. Pete II:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT5B0wqztZI
(don't have the FS but she won this event)

 

[muffinplus]

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[Ka3sha]

Was there a mistake in this interview? She didn't do a lutz toe combo in the free

She did

 

[muffinplus]

She did

Never mind, was looking at protocols for someone else...

 

[alchemy void]

Nugumanova skated very well at this event. Yet a month ago at "St. Petersburg's Cup I" she placed only 6th. And at St. Pete II she won... So it depends on how she performs from here on and at Nationals.

Thanks for the info and links. It figures--I always seem to be drawn to inconsistent ones.

 

[Tinami Amori]

Thanks for the info and links. It figures--I always seem to be drawn to inconsistent ones.

Nugumanova is said to be determined this season, and many predicting some level of a good comeback (based on rink-chat discussions of skaters, parents and fans).

 

[Mad for Skating]

This is the source article https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20181006/1143409198.html

“In order to qualify for the Russian championship, our new duet had to successfully compete in at least two stages of the Russian Cup. We train every day, but in order to avoid injuries we do not force training. We realized that we would not have time,” said Rogonov.

I’ll miss them, but I guess I can wait! Pairs is kinda sad this year though...

Radionova: Tatiana Tarasova has publicly accused Radionova of being overweight due to lack of discipline.

- https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1067589334.html
"Radionova has gained weight beyond recognition, because she can't control herself (self-indulgent with food). She is dealing with a difficult growth period, and has abandoned her self. She is a beautiful and smart girl, she sure is. But she does not apply her smarts to herself. She can't control herself, how much to eat and when to eat, because when she was younger she did not have to.

So now she gained weight beyond recognition. I told her about it during Test Skate, but even her previous coach, Inna Goncharenko often told her about it, and now Elena Boyanova is (saying it), that she (Elena) can't consume (food) as she pleases and then loose what she has to lose in one week (like she could when she was younger).

- https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1066834691.html
"Lena, you must lose weight! You're a talented person, but you're destroying yourself, and i am willing to say it publicly. You have no will power to keep in shape, and must say that with an attitude like yours (to your body) very soon nobody would want you (in sports)".

Radionova's SP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBXNatnHCQk

Daria Panenkova: ... i am not posting here on FSU what is said about her out there...
.. just the video of her SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boM3tdgsu1I

I have no words...

Poor Radionova, weight should not be commented on like that, especially in public... Besides, she is still very slender - she is simply not a child anymore! Very few women stay stick-thin...

I agree with all of this! Why, she’s nowhere near overweight! She’s as skinny as a runway model - TAT, I think you left your glasses at home...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnovfEHlIf2/?hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjVC7gYFfwb/?hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiWlVxIlEVF/?hl=en

Does TAT own a mirror? Yes, I know she hasn't been an athlete since dinosaurs roamed the earth, but if controlling weight was so easy, then you'd think she would look quite different herself.

Even if Elena were in perfect shape, she has so many other issues, from the poor posture to labored-looking spins and jumps and trashy programs, that I can't see her ever coming back. She could do shows and her fans would probably be happy to see her there. Is she really going to show up to SA like this? She admitted she's not in the best form, but 2 weeks are not enough to get there. What did she do all summer? I feel bad for the other Russian girls without GPs who at least made an effort.

The first part of this is soooo true. I don’t mind some of her programs, but I agree she hasn’t shown much improvement over the past few years, and that has nothing to do with her weight. Like you said, it’s a basic posture/packaging thing.

 

[Vash01]

I’ll miss them, but I guess I can wait! Pairs is kinda sad this year though...



I have no words...



I agree with all of this! Why, she’s nowhere near overweight! She’s as skinny as a runway model - TAT, I think you left your glasses at home...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnovfEHlIf2/?hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjVC7gYFfwb/?hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiWlVxIlEVF/?hl=en



The first part of this is soooo true. I don’t mind some of her programs, but I agree she hasn’t shown much improvement over the past few years, and that has nothing to do with her weight. Like you said, it’s a basic posture/packaging thing.

Elena looks beautiful. Not heavy at all. She may be lacking in physical conditioning or stamina but she is definitely not overweight.