Downtown Jason Brown - Let the Good Times Roll (uber thread #2)
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Here's Jason's SP with B.ESP commentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmFdyNacVTE&t
And, Adam Rippon's response when someone posted on twitter that the French Europsport commentators were upset by how high Jason's score was:
https://twitter.com/Adaripp/status/1066021231659487233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmFdyNacVTE&t
And, Adam Rippon's response when someone posted on twitter that the French Europsport commentators were upset by how high Jason's score was:
https://twitter.com/Adaripp/status/1066021231659487233
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The only joke is how Nathan Chen with a bad skate can get almost as high of PCS as Jason. Honestly he probably shouldnt even with a good skate.
And he didn't just win the PCS. He won the TES. Say it again: he won the technical mark without a quad because he executed so well. God, the day Jason gets even just one quad...he's going over 100 easily. And he'll deserve every second of it.
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So true.
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If Shoma and Hanyu can be overly coddled with poor skates, Nathan's score is nowhere near out of line. The judges are definitely not showering Nathan with high PCS and high GOE the way they do Shoma and Hanyu. Plus, Nathan did not attempt more than one quad in his sp. What is it you don't recognize about Nathan's skating? He's not perfect, but he does have a unique movement quality and exceptionally creative programs. Nathan deserves higher scores than he's been receiving for composition and interpretation. There's a lot of back-blow against Nathan because he did something never done before in landing five and six quads in a program, five cleanly several times. And it apparently irks a lot of people. That's what the sport rewarded though and it was an American male skater who gave it to them unexpectedly. It upset the apple cart and took some control away from the judges, thus the rules changes. Nathan does not have soft knees like Shoma, but Nathan is a much more musical skater with more creative depth than Shoma and Hanyu.
Finally, Jason receives the kind of PCS scores he's always deserved. Is that partly due to him having Orser as his coach? Politics and strategy are just as important as talent and training in this sport. And I do think that Orser understands how to strategize for his skaters and help them bring out their talent. So much of the possibility for success resides in the mind, not the muscles. But coaching is a different process for every athlete, and even the best coaches will not work for every athlete. Orser knows that too, in the same way that Raf understands the complications of the coaching process (see the recent translated interview with Raf in GSD).
The way Jason was focused for this performance was somewhat different from what I've seen from him previously, although there is some similarity to his unreal focus before his iconic Riverdance performance. His confidence was huge at that time because he believed in himself and trusted his coach and choreographer. It will be great if Jason has rediscovered that focus in a renewed way at this stage of his career trajectory. It will bode well if he can manage to access this kind of focus, belief and determination consistently going forward. He has always scored well when skating completely clean, but the tech and PCS scores were amped up because he had such precision and confidence, which he hasn't had for awhile. Doing everything technically clean with confidence and his usual brand of artistry, and it looks like the judges will go with Jason in a big way. But it also seems to me that judges' scores vary from event to event, and are also based on the field of competitors. There's a lot of manipulation of placements based not only on performances, but on how the judges decide to manipulate PCS and GOE.
Now, it's too bad that Jason's fp is not as boss as his sp, but let's see if he's been able to work more on improving the fp. I still don't think the opening music is right for Jason. I will never like this fp for Jason, but he did seem to feel in the moment with it better at Skate Canada than he did at Autumn Classic. So we'll see.
Finally, Jason receives the kind of PCS scores he's always deserved. Is that partly due to him having Orser as his coach? Politics and strategy are just as important as talent and training in this sport. And I do think that Orser understands how to strategize for his skaters and help them bring out their talent. So much of the possibility for success resides in the mind, not the muscles. But coaching is a different process for every athlete, and even the best coaches will not work for every athlete. Orser knows that too, in the same way that Raf understands the complications of the coaching process (see the recent translated interview with Raf in GSD).
The way Jason was focused for this performance was somewhat different from what I've seen from him previously, although there is some similarity to his unreal focus before his iconic Riverdance performance. His confidence was huge at that time because he believed in himself and trusted his coach and choreographer. It will be great if Jason has rediscovered that focus in a renewed way at this stage of his career trajectory. It will bode well if he can manage to access this kind of focus, belief and determination consistently going forward. He has always scored well when skating completely clean, but the tech and PCS scores were amped up because he had such precision and confidence, which he hasn't had for awhile. Doing everything technically clean with confidence and his usual brand of artistry, and it looks like the judges will go with Jason in a big way. But it also seems to me that judges' scores vary from event to event, and are also based on the field of competitors. There's a lot of manipulation of placements based not only on performances, but on how the judges decide to manipulate PCS and GOE.
Now, it's too bad that Jason's fp is not as boss as his sp, but let's see if he's been able to work more on improving the fp. I still don't think the opening music is right for Jason. I will never like this fp for Jason, but he did seem to feel in the moment with it better at Skate Canada than he did at Autumn Classic. So we'll see.
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I found this tweet to be really interesting (and eye opening):
[B]Nick Zaccardi[/B] @[B]nzaccardi[/B]
Singles skaters to make a Grand Prix podium each of the last six seasons:
Yuzuru Hanyu
Jason Brown
[B]Nick Zaccardi[/B] @[B]nzaccardi[/B]
Singles skaters to make a Grand Prix podium each of the last six seasons:
Yuzuru Hanyu
Jason Brown
To be fair, the Fr Eurosport team being were equally picky in the short program with a couple of the other skaters in their relative scoring to Ponsart and Aymoz. But they should know full well Jason was already scoring low 90s in the -3/+3 GOE era.
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LOL like Zag once said to Wagner, "let's see you do it!"
You can tell by his social media posts how much this competition (and podium) means to him.
He said "baby steps" in the K&C after the lp at SC. This competition was a lot more steps in the right direction.
He said "baby steps" in the K&C after the lp at SC. This competition was a lot more steps in the right direction.
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It was so great to see Jason skate so much better this weekend and look so happy in the kiss and cry. I think his SP is fantastic and was so well done this weekend. I still am not a fan of the FS. Like others, I think the slow section goes on too long. But it looked more complete this week and he looked so much more comfortable with it. With his quality and if he could get a quad in both programs he could really start pushing his way toward the top of the standings.
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Happy 24th Birthday, Jason!
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QUAD !!! in this interview with Wong and Orser (posted in another thread) Orser when talking about Jason Brown said that Jason had been landing some nice quads but did not include it in the GP -France because of an injury.
So....there you go, everyone wondering... it really is just a matter of time and we will see a quad in a program
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW1KaZkBVKM
So....there you go, everyone wondering... it really is just a matter of time and we will see a quad in a program
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW1KaZkBVKM
Brian O. talks about Jason near the end of the interview (said he had planned to try a quad in his Golden Spin FS but had a "little ankle injury before the day of the SP" in Zagreb, not France): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW1KaZkBVKM&t=38m1s
Jordan Cowan posted this clip in honor of Jason's birthday: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bre2erNnQCH/
Behind-the-scenes/making of Jordan filming Jason's 3A, posted back in November: https://www.instagram.com/p/BqXMJhEHpOF/
Jordan Cowan posted this clip in honor of Jason's birthday: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bre2erNnQCH/
Behind-the-scenes/making of Jordan filming Jason's 3A, posted back in November: https://www.instagram.com/p/BqXMJhEHpOF/
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^^ Jordan Cowan and Jason appear to have had great fun during this screening session. And I'm glad it's protions of Jason's sp they filmed! 
These are more clips from November:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bprdkchn6Nc/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpzVL36H7-P/
The rink looks bright and inviting. Everything is lit so well. And Jason's red shirt pops!
These are more clips from November:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bprdkchn6Nc/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpzVL36H7-P/
The rink looks bright and inviting. Everything is lit so well. And Jason's red shirt pops!
https://usfigureskatingfanzone.com/...own-reflecting-on-2018-grand-prix-series.aspx
(this video should be uploaded to USFS' YouTube channel at some point)
(this video should be uploaded to USFS' YouTube channel at some point)
3 tweets by Lynn Rutherford re. Jason's pre-Nationals media call:
Tweeted by FigureSkatersOnline:
ETA link to IFS' article based on the call: https://www.ifsmagazine.com/jason-brown-hard-work-paying-off/
Tweeted by FigureSkatersOnline:
ETA link to IFS' article based on the call: https://www.ifsmagazine.com/jason-brown-hard-work-paying-off/
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Good for Jason. What he did - leaving a coach he had for so many years and moving to a new country and coaches - must have been a very tough decision. He has my respect for trying something new and I hope it really works out for him. Hope Nationals goes great for him.
The Lansing Herald has posted some of the media calls from last week on SoundCloud.
Here is Jason:
https://soundcloud.com/user-20997017...son-brown-usch
And here is the link for the other skaters:
https://soundcloud.com/user-209970172-305920694
Here is Jason:
https://soundcloud.com/user-20997017...son-brown-usch
And here is the link for the other skaters:
https://soundcloud.com/user-209970172-305920694
Great interview on Europe on Ice about Jason and all the changes he's made since last season:
https://europeonice.com/2019/01/21/jason-brown-i-know-i-am-capable-of-more/
https://europeonice.com/2019/01/21/jason-brown-i-know-i-am-capable-of-more/