Dalilah Sappenfield suspended for "allegations of misconduct"

[Judy]

That's a good idea. If you two have more to say to each other, please do it by PM.

But for the record, I checked (you can call that stalking your posts if you like) and you did indeed post in the linked thread. I am not sure why this is important or why you would bother to argue about it since anyone who can use the search feature could see this for themselves, but there you are. If you are going to take up space in a thread arguing about something like this, then you shouldn't be too surprised when people check to see if you are being unjustly accused.

Since you can't put me on Ignore, feel free to send me a PM telling me to **** off and get a life if you feel the need.

I am supposed to remember posts from 10 months ago? I don't.

 

[overedge]

@Lacey from what I read, the temporary restrictions mean that Sappenfield can still coach, but there has to be another person present when she's working with underage skaters. I don't know if there's more to the restrictions than that.

ETA from @Vagabond post earlier in the thread, the restrictions are
Travel / Lodging Restriction(s), Coaching / Training Restriction(s), Contact / Communication Limitation(s), No Contact Directive(s)
This document explains what those restrictions mean:

https://uscenterforsafesport.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/CDD-Link-1-overview-and-definitions-v2.pdf

I don't think there's any public information about who she's banned from contacting, although I would imagine it's the complainants.

 

[Prancer]

I am supposed to remember posts from 10 months ago? I don't.

Well, we all have our strengths and weaknesses. I remember posts from years ago; ten months is nothing for some of us.

I cannot believe you are continuing this discussion in this thread. If you have something else to say about it, send me a PM.

 

[Lacey]

As overedge noted, this is a short-term action in an investigation. SafeSport received a complaint (according to TSL, there are multiple complaints but there hasn't been anything officially stated yet) and determined there was enough evidence to issue a temporary suspension/restriction while they continue to investigate to determine if there was indeed a violation and what consequences should be imposed.

When SafeSport completes its investigation, it will issue its findings and decision. Sappenfield could be permanently banned, suspended for a period of time, or cleared.

If the complaint involves criminal activity, the individual can be reported to police as any crime would be reported. The police investigation and charges would be separate from SafeSport. Obviously, if a coach is convicted of a crime that precludes them from working as a coach, SafeSport would ban them.

Accusers could bring a civil suit against Sappenfield but that would also be separate from SafeSport.

USFS is bound by whatever SafeSport decides, so whatever consequence they issue would apply to all USFS-sanctioned activities.

Thank you so much, @Debbie S. You put a lot of effort into your response to me, and it helped.

 

[Lacey]

@Lacey from what I read, the temporary restrictions mean that Sappenfield can still coach, but there has to be another person present when she's working with underage skaters. I don't know if there's more to the restrictions than that.

ETA from @Vagabond post earlier in the thread, the restrictions are
Travel / Lodging Restriction(s), Coaching / Training Restriction(s), Contact / Communication Limitation(s), No Contact Directive(s)
This document explains what those restrictions mean:

https://uscenterforsafesport.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/CDD-Link-1-overview-and-definitions-v2.pdf

I don't think there's any public information about who she's banned from contacting, although I would imagine it's the complainants.

Thanks @overedge, you have been so helpful.

 

[Carolla5501]

Maybe I don't Tony. You didn't answer my question ... why do you stalk my comments? You can just move on to other people's posts. You certainly have absolutely no business telling me what **** off Tony and get a life. Condescending remarks don't work with me. You are just a nasty person in general ... I've never seen you post or respond without belittling remarks. Putting you on ignore feel free to do the same ??.

I I would like to go on record as saying I know that my original response to this post showed was inappropriate. EI said think and I still think it but it won’t make a difference and I should’ve kept my mouth shut and fingers off the keyboard

 

[Prancer]

Maybe if you didn’t post things you weren’t proud of you wouldn’t be upset You seem to be rather defensive about things and it’s not stalking for someone to go look at your posting history. And I’m not sure why it’s not his business to tell you anything but it’s your business to tell him what to do. LOL

And you certainly didn’t have nothing better to do then show us your adolescent side as shown by this post.

I am always so impressed by the posters who act like a 12-year-old who just learned the bad words.

And by the way the fact that you thought you had to respond to him with this nasty statement pretty much tells everyone that the statement you’re making that his posts do not bother you is a total and complete lie. People who don’t care don’t respond with curse words and telling people off. They just put them on ignore and move on (feel free to do that with me but I wouldn’t put you on ignore for all the money in the world because you are hysterical-what did you say in that thread I can’t wait to go find out?)

Is there a reason you are continuing this conversation?

PMs are really good for this sort of thing.

 

[Carolla5501]

Is there a reason you are continuing this conversation?

PMs are really good for this sort of thing.

You’re right and I shouldn’t have responded.

I just got a little frustrated at the 12 year old cursing response. Really? That’s your response to somebody. Come on be an adult. But I admit it was immature of me to respond that way to so I’m going to edit my post

 

[skatfan]

Deleted post because the point has been made.

 

[platniumangel]

I don’t think the Cains have ever trained a pair team other than their daughter…. And she works with many outside coaches including Nina Mozer.

Isn't the real question why would the Swedes remain with her as their primary coach? Well, that and I think the Swedes could improve if they switched to a different coaching team. Meno/Sand are getting crowded but it seems like the Cains or Peterson/Amanda Evora should have room for another team in their program

 

[karmena]

I am far away of any knowledge in this this "department" of Sappenfield, and I am not American so; just one single observation or perception note from/ via TV screen in Kiss and Cry section many years ago with Sappenfield and Cailtleen Yankowskas and John Coughlin. It was Nationals where the Yankovskas and Coughlin won the gold medal and I was deeply surprised if not shocked of Sappenfield's and Coughlin attitude towards Caitleen Yankowskas after that wonderful skate of Ave Maria ( I mean the attitude towards Yankowskas on the ice after that skate and in the Kiss and Cry section). It was almost like a disgust from both of them towards Yankowskas, especially from Coughlin. I wanted to ask somewhere afterwards, if it was only my perception or somebody else saw/felt in the same way but, of course, i did not. In general, Sappenfield never seemed to me a good as a person ( it is only my TV screen impression though); there was something very unpleasant in her.

And I am still sad how Caitleen Yankowskas career ended up. IMHO she was such a gem as a pair skater. I might be mistaken, but, at least partly if not completely, it has to be on Sappenfield's conscience how Yankowskas ended her career.

 

[overedge]

I was looking on the US Center for Safe Sport database and noticed that the date on Dalilah Sappenfield's listing has changed to Sept. 22 - the original listing was on September 9. However, the other details of the public information are the same. Why would the date change? A change to the conditions or to the investigations?

 

[Aaron MB Fan]

I was looking on the US Center for Safe Sport database and noticed that the date on Dalilah Sappenfield's listing has changed to Sept. 22 - the original listing was on September 9. However, the other details of the public information are the same. Why would the date change? A change to the conditions or to the investigations?

I was wondering the same thing. This was questioned on Twitter by Judge Three:

https://twitter.com/JudgeThree/status/1440882009442770945