Canadian Ladies 2017-18 season news & updates

[Dobre]

Canada overall tends to be less patriotic about these things than most other countries.

LOL. I don't think so, but I also think it has more to do with the individual sporting event & whether a country has a contender than whether said country is less or more patriotic. The line on the jumbotron at Skate Canada this year after showing the montage of all the Canadian champions at the event about how this year's Olympics "could be a bumper crop for Canada" has stuck with me all season.

But for years at Skate America, the jumbotron kept replaying the same video montage from U.S. Nationals. It's part of the experience of going to an event outside your own country. Some people hate it & refuse to go back, but most of us appreciate seeing athletes & performances we can't see somewhere else. And it really helps one appreciate the challenge athletes face when they compete away from home.

 

[barbarafan]

I still go back and listen to it. I know, I'm a sap. I just can't help it.

I do like CBC. They do a good job. We also have had good commentators.

I like David Pelletier

 

[RoseRed]

LOL. I don't think so, but I also think it has more to do with the individual sporting event & whether a country has a contender than whether said country is less or more patriotic. The line on the jumbotron at Skate Canada this year after showing the montage of all the Canadian champions at the event about how this year's Olympics "could be a bumper crop for Canada" has stuck with me all season.

But for years at Skate America, the jumbotron kept replaying the same video montage from U.S. Nationals. It's part of the experience of going to an event outside your own country. Some people hate it & refuse to go back, but most of us appreciate seeing athletes & performances we can't see somewhere else. And it really helps one appreciate the challenge athletes face when they compete away from home.

Sure, there are tons of examples in individual sports or individual cases where that's not the case, but I stand by the statement overall, compared to countries like the US or Russia at least. That's been my experience anyways, and that of a lot of people I know who've spent time in different countries. I mean, Canada is super nationalistic in hockey, for example. I'd never deny that.

 

[WildRose]

Sure, there are tons of examples in individual sports or individual cases where that's not the case, but I stand by the statement overall, compared to countries like the US or Russia at least. That's been my experience anyways, and that of a lot of people I know who've spent time in different countries. I mean, Canada is super nationalistic in hockey, for example. I'd never deny that.

Hockey is different - we are allowed to be super nationalistic about hockey cuz we own hockey .

 

[clairecloutier]

Canada overall tends to be less patriotic about these things than most other countries.

Sure, there are tons of examples in individual sports or individual cases where that's not the case, but I stand by the statement overall, compared to countries like the US or Russia at least. That's been my experience anyways, and that of a lot of people I know who've spent time in different countries. I mean, Canada is super nationalistic in hockey, for example. I'd never deny that.

I have to respectfully disagree. There was certainly no shortage of nationalistic "patriotism" at the Vancouver Games. It's probably my strongest memory from that Games. I see little difference between Canada and USA in this area, when it comes to Olympic sports anyway.

 

[Osmond4gold]

For some countries winning at the Olympics means everything. Just look at the number of medals that have been stripped due to over zealous athletes, coaches and federations, willing to do anything to get 'the prize'. Here are the current top 5 stripped of Olympic medals due to infractions. Canada btw, sits at no. 20 with 1.

Country 01 !

02 !

03 !

Total

Soviet Union
Unified Team

Russia 12 27 13 52

Belarus 2 3 6 11

Ukraine 1 4 5 10

Kazakhstan 5 2 2 9

United States 5 1 2 8

 

[RoseRed]

I have to respectfully disagree. There was certainly no shortage of nationalistic "patriotism" at the Vancouver Games. It's probably my strongest memory from that Games. I see little difference between Canada and USA in this area, when it comes to Olympic sports anyway.

My experience was that the attitude around Vancouver was a change, not what people expect from Canada. There were a lot of comments and articles about Canada actually being more patriotic than usual around those Games. That was the point of Own the Podium, partially. To actually start acting like we expected to win. But people are certainly free to disagree with me. To be clear, I'm not speaking just about the Olympics, but overall. But this is a very subjective thign anyways.

 

[kalamalka]

This discussion is a bit OT, but "Own the Podium", particularly in relation to Vancouver 2010, had a big point, as RoseRed and the linked Maclean's article noted.

Previous home Olympics in Canada had not gone well.

Canada was the ONLY country ever to host an Olympics, summer or winter, without winning a single gold medal. And we did that both previous times we'd hosted (Montreal 1976 and Calgary 1988). OTP may have been a bit over the top, but the funding in particular and the targeting towards more medals had a big impact on both expectations and results.

Kaetlyn, Gabby, and Larkyn - may you all have PB skates, and it would be wonderful if either Kaetlyn or Gabby could bring home the first ladies' medal since Liz Manley in '88.

 

[MysticHaze]

Didn’t Rochette win Bronze in 2010 Vancouver?

 

[JanetB]

Kaetlyn, Gabby, and Larkyn - may you all have PB skates, and it would be wonderful if either Kaetlyn or Gabby could bring home the first ladies' medal since Liz Manley in '88.

You are forgetting Joannie Rochette

 

[dramagrrl]

Didn’t Rochette win Bronze in 2010 Vancouver?

Yes.

 

[kalamalka]

Oops - and I was even in the arena crying, especially during/after the short . . .

 

[ChiquitaBanana]

I have to respectfully disagree. There was certainly no shortage of nationalistic "patriotism" at the Vancouver Games. It's probably my strongest memory from that Games. I see little difference between Canada and USA in this area, when it comes to Olympic sports anyway.

I do see differences, watching coverage from both countries. Canadian broadcast will show canadian athletes (of course) but they will also show events where no Canadians are in it but to show the great feats of foreign athletes whereas in the US broadcast, I always have the feeling than apart from the Americans, nobody really exists, unless they have a big major sad story or they break the Olympics record by more than 10 seconds...

(Edited because I must surely suffer from a keyboard induced-dyslexia...)

 

[coppertop1]

I do see differences, watching coverage from both countries. Canadian broadcast will show canadian arhletes, of course ,but they will also show events where no Canadians are in it but to show the great feats of foreign athletes whereas in the US broadcast, I always have the feelingt han apart from the americans, nobody really exist, unless they have a big major sad story or they break the Olympics record by 10 seconds...

This is why I have never been able to watch the American coverage when it was Dick Button and Peggy Fleming or Scott Hamilton and Sandra Bezic. Everything was compared to the American ladies, usually in an unfavourable manner. Tara and Johnny are starting to do it, too.

 

[nimi]

Local news story about Larkyn being an inspiration to skaters at Coquitlam Skating Club

http://www.tricitynews.com/sports/olympic-achievement-a-big-boost-for-local-skaters-1.23161955

Heather Austman, Larkyn’s mom, a former figure skater herself and a coach at the skating club for 35 years, said her daughter’s achievement of her Olympic dream has been a boost for the community-based club that doesn’t have the resources or training facilities available at some of the centres of excellence or private clubs around the country.

“To have someone make an Olympic team from a small club, in a local venue, it’s exciting,” Austman said. “Even the ice guys are excited.”

 

[Rock2]

This is why I have never been able to watch the American coverage when it was Dick Button and Peggy Fleming or Scott Hamilton and Sandra Bezic. Everything was compared to the American ladies, usually in an unfavourable manner. Tara and Johnny are starting to do it, too.

It's easy to put that on the commentators but don't forget they are given mandates and direction; they don't get free reign.
And American audiences care a lot about their skaters....and understanding why they are placing where they are. They would expect a lot of commentary in that regard.

I'd love to transcribe Tarasova or Trankov doing Russian commentary. Would probably come off the same way...with some criticism of non-Russian athletes for their inability to do the things the Russian athletes and audiences value.

That's why many like the Eurosport guys. They have no horses in the race for the most part, so they just call it as they see it and don't have to contextualize it against their own athletes. Their audience is likely smaller but there purely for the skating. Makes it easier.

 

[Dobre]

American audiences, however, do not forever applaud themselves for their own good sportsmanship.

 

[nimi]

This discussion is a bit OT

Yeah I don't know why I even bother checking this thread anymore. I should know better by now.

 

[ChiquitaBanana]

Yeah I don't know why I even bother checking this thread anymore. I should know better by now.

...because you might miss something really intesresting about a Canadian lady! Think of what you could potentially miss NOT checking this thread...

 

[shutterbug]

From CBC's new video series "Inside An Athlete's Head": Episode 3 Kaetlyn Osmond
She speaks candidly about the psychological effects of her ankle fracture.

 

[Japanfan]

Seriously? I really disagree. It's the Olympics. It's perfectly normal to be nationalistic and patriotic. Canada overall tends to be less patriotic about these things than most other countries.

I don't know if we are less patriotic than a lot of other countries. We are certainly less ostensibly patriotic than the USA in that we display many fewer flags outside our homes, and we don't hold our hands over our hearts when listening to our national anthem.

But I would guess that the vast majority of Canadians (or at least a goodly number of us) take a quiet pride in being Canadian - although that is unfortunately sometimes defined as not being American - rather than being something that makes us distinctly Canadian.

I observed a lot of patriotism on the streets and on TV during the Vancouver games, and felt like standing up and singing the anthem when it was played for Canadian athletes who won Gold medals.

It was a different sort of experience for me, and I wholeheartedly enjoyed it. I also think that 'Own the Podium' was both appropriate and inspirational.

Saying you want to own the podium at your home Games - that's just, it's kind of obvious. Every country that hosts wants that. Canada is a strong winter sports country. Of course we wanted to win lots of medals at home. Are you seriously not allowed to say you want to win? Previous home Olympics in Canada had not gone well. The attitude that went along with Own the Podium was necessary. And "be the best you can" would have been a super lame slogan.

I entirely agree.

 

[nimi]

From CBC's new video series "Inside An Athlete's Head": Episode 3 Kaetlyn Osmond

Thank you for providing content that's actually about Canadian ladies! I was starting to lose hope that anybody posting here actually gives a flying f about the apparent topic of this thread.

BTW, the CBC vid is blocked outside of Canada but here's an alternative link I found.

 

[screech]

I don't know if we are less patriotic than a lot of other countries. We are certainly less ostensibly patriotic than the USA in that we display many fewer flags outside our homes, and we don't hold our hands over our hearts when listening to our national anthem.

Makes me think of one of my favourite 'Canadian pride' quotes I've read. It's something like
"Americans think that they're the greatest in the world. Canadians know that they are."

 

[puglover]

Anybody know who is skating the team event short and free programs for Canada ladies?

 

[skatingguy]

Anybody know who is skating the team event short and free programs for Canada ladies?

No, that decision should be announced sometime next Saturday.

 

[victorskid]

No, that decision should be announced sometime next Saturday.

I hope the team assignments will be announced before that - the first events are happening on Friday (Korean time)

 

[Rafter]

Certainly Osmond and Daleman know by now what/if they’re doing the team event?

 

[honey]

Osmond said in the one the news pieces the other night that she’s doing the team event. Daleman was packing on instagram today, so I assume she’s leaving Monday along with the others in the team event.

 

[RoseRed]

It would make sense for them to go with Kaetlyn for the SP and Gabby for the FS

 

[skatingguy]

I hope the team assignments will be announced before that - the first events are happening on Friday (Korean time)

Men's & Pairs will be announced Thursday at the the Team Event team leaders meeting - Saturday for the Ladies & Ice Dance & Pairs free skate.