Boyang withdrew from gpf?

[Tesla]

I could be wrong, but I do believe the OP was making a joke. Aerobicidal is free to correct me if I am mistaken.

Oh. Sorry. I didn’t know it was a joke.

 

[skatfan]

I wear a headband. Took all of 5 minutes to find and order on Amazon. What, pray tell, is so different than fans that wear jerseys for their favorite team or player to a game they'll be participating in? And those pooh bears are sent to local hospitals for kids. How awful!

Wear the headband, there's no law against it - I think it's odd. I personally think donating directly to charity is better than a random dump of stuffed animals, again, not against the law but a little crazy to me. There is a difference between buying a jersey of your football/soccer/baseball player vs. going in full cos-play on an intricate costume that you had to hand make and then balling your eyes out when the said skater doesn't live up to the (insane) hype in a performance. Like I said, our definitions may be different. Go for it, but don't get in my face about what I think about it. I am judging.

 

[Aerobicidal]

I could be wrong, but I do believe the OP was making a joke. Aerobicidal is free to correct me if I am mistaken.

This is me not correcting you.

Maybe I should start a rumor that one of the FSU moderators is actually Tonya Harding.

 

[Japanfan]

There is a difference between buying a jersey of your football/soccer/baseball player vs. going in full cos-play on an intricate costume that you had to hand make and then balling your eyes out when the said skater doesn't live up to the (insane) hype in a performance. Like I said, our definitions may be different. Go for it, but don't get in my face about what I think about it. I am judging.

People go full cos-play at Comic Con and seem to think it's a lot of fun. So what shouldn't they do the same at sporting events? It's not something I would do myself, but it's harmless fun.

 

[WildRose]

People go full cos-play at Comic Con and seem to think it's a lot of fun. So what shouldn't they do the same at sporting events? It's not something I would do myself, but it's harmless fun.

Ever seen what they wear to hockey games? Figure skating fans are a bunch of woosies compared to other fans. Figure skating is a sport. Nothing wrong with supporting your favourite team.

 

[danibellerika]

Wear the headband, there's no law against it - I think it's odd. I personally think donating directly to charity is better than a random dump of stuffed animals, again, not against the law but a little crazy to me. There is a difference between buying a jersey of your football/soccer/baseball player vs. going in full cos-play on an intricate costume that you had to hand make and then balling your eyes out when the said skater doesn't live up to the (insane) hype in a performance. Like I said, our definitions may be different. Go for it, but don't get in my face about what I think about it. I am judging.

I don't really care if you find it odd or not. I'm just telling you why a headband isn't different from a fan wearing a jersey. And therefore shouldn't be considered odd as you think it is just because it's a skater. Unless you find wearing jerseys odd too. Either way, that certainly isn't the same level as actual cosplaying. Yuzuru has fans of all kinds is all I'm saying and if you become big you will get fans of all kinds. That's not unique to him.

As for plushies, Satoko likes pineapple so she gets pineapple plushies. Boyang likes spiderman so he gets spiderman plushies, Marin likes pikachu so she gets pikachu plushies. Kwan and Yuna were certainly not short on their fair share of plushies. It's what's come to be the norm in skating, so what's wrong with that? Yuzu just gets more exponentially because he has exponentially more fans. Especially those willing to dedicate money and time to attend these competitions which ultimately keep the lights on and help keep this sport going. That doesn't make someone crazy and it doesn't make it sensible to ridicule people for choosing to toss a bear or anything else on the ice in support of their fave. And it doesn't mean people can't donate to a hospital if they feel like it AND toss a bear. Rain on.

People go full cos-play at Comic Con and seem to think it's a lot of fun. So what shouldn't they do the same at sporting events? It's not something I would do myself, but it's harmless fun.

Definitely harmless fun. I go to San Diego Comic Con almost every year and I'm a cosplayer (started a good 10 years ago now). So I'm pretty good at this point. Good enough to be featured in a Vanity Fair publication. Good enough for celebrities to come up to me asking for my picture. If I was too busy concerned about what people find odd or judge me for I wouldn't have those opportunities. I personally have no desire to bring that to skating, but as a fellow creator I can appreciate the skills and craftsmanship that go into it. And heck, my Pooh ears got me and my friends interviewed on Japanese TV. Through those ears I've met fellow fans and made friends because it shows we have something in common. I fail to see the downsides.

 

[skatfan]

People go full cos-play at Comic Con and seem to think it's a lot of fun. So what shouldn't they do the same at sporting events? It's not something I would do myself, but it's harmless fun.

Like I said, I’m not telling anybody what to do... but that crying, sobbing cos-play fan at Hanyu’s bad performance in a relatively minor event was not having fun. Some of Hanyu’s fans are crazy.

 

[skatfan]

I don't really care if you find it odd or not. I'm just telling you why a headband isn't different from a fan wearing a jersey. And therefore shouldn't be considered odd as you think it is just because it's a skater. Unless you find Yuzuru has fans of all kinds is all I'm saying and if you become big you will get fans of all kinds. That's not unique to him.

As for plushies, Satoko likes pineapple so she gets pineapple plushies. Boyang likes spiderman so he gets spiderman plushies, Marin likes pikachu so she gets pikachu plushies. Kwan and Yuna were certainly not short on their fair share of plushies. It's what's come to be the norm in skating, so what's wrong with that? Yuzu just gets more exponentially because he has exponentially more fans. Especially those willing to dedicate money and time to attend these competitions which ultimately keep the lights on and help keep this sport going. That doesn't make someone crazy and it doesn't make it sensible to ridicule people for choosing to toss a bear or anything else on the ice in support of their fave. And it doesn't mean people can't donate to a hospital if they feel like it AND toss a bear. Rain on.


Definitely harmless fun. I go to San Diego Comic Con almost every year and I'm a cosplayer (started a good 10 years ago now). So I'm pretty good at this point. Good enough to be featured in a Vanity Fair publication. Good enough for celebrities to come up to me asking for my picture. If I was too busy concerned about what people find odd or judge me for I wouldn't have those opportunities

Go for it. If you don’t care what I think, I fail to see why you feel you have to explain yourself in great detail. I have not impugned cosplay in general (I think it’s fine and wish I didn’t hate crowds or I might try it) or Jersey wearers. I think wearing Poo headbands is odd, but go for it if it floats your boat. Fans throw animals to show appreciation, not for charity- but hey if you like it, go for it.

What started this - someone denying Hanyu fans can be crazy. They can. Cosplay sobbing fan is exhibit #1.

 

[danibellerika]

Go for it. If you don’t care what I think, I fail to see why you feel you have to explain yourself in great detail. I have not impugned cosplay in general (I think it’s fine and wish I didn’t hate crowds or I might try it) or Jersey wearers. I think wearing Poo headbands is odd, but go for it if it floats your boat. Fans throw animals to show appreciation, not for charity- but hey if you like it, go for it.

What started this - someone denying Hanyu fans can be crazy. They can. Cosplay sobbing fan is exhibit #1.

I don't have to care about your opinion to point out why your broad brushing and trying to insult a whole fandom makes no sense. And again, not giving any reason why wearing ears is more odd than a jersey besides you simply say so further shows me there is no logic there. As I said, when you have million of fans, you're going to have fans of all kinds. He is not unique.

 

[MAXSwagg]

I probably wouldn’t insult the fans of a skater who are probably supporting a large part of figure skating. Hanyu generates a LOT of money for the sport, more than any other current skater.

 

[MsZem]

Maybe I should start a rumor that one of the FSU moderators is actually Tonya Harding.

There should be a poll - which admin is most likely to secretly be Tonya?

 

[Japanfan]

What started this - someone denying Hanyu fans can be crazy. They can. Cosplay sobbing fan is exhibit #1.

This suggests that the fans of Hanyu in particular can be crazy, as opposed to the fans of other skaters. I don't believe that to be true. Hanyu simply has a lot of fans because he is a well-known and very successful skater. But those 'crazy' fans would be the same should they be rooting for another skater, or another athlete in a different sport.

And I don't think they are 'crazy', just having fun (for them).

 

[Japanfan]

Only fools would buy what maxswagg says about Hanyu's rivals. But I don't think you are a fool. Just curious, do you write Ice Time for Japan Times?

No. Although curiously, I did write for the Japan Times many years ago.

 

[Japanfan]

As to how it pertains to scoring, the issue I see is this: judges do not... and really cannot... sit there and count crossovers, amount of time on one foot, etc. In a four+ minute program (which judges see once and then score immediately) there is almost no difference between Yuzu & Chan's 26 crossovers and Kolyada's 31.

If it mattered to them and made a difference to their judging, they could probably get someone to do that for them.

 

[misskarne]

Maybe I should start a rumor that one of the FSU moderators is actually Tonya Harding.

There should be a poll - which admin is most likely to secretly be Tonya?

Hush! Don't blow their cover!

 

[TAHbKA]

Just curious, purple skates, have you see Boyang live?
He's much more impressive in person. He has great speed and great skating skills. I agree they're probably not like Patrick Chan level, but he holds his own with others in the top six,

Things I've been missing again and again and again every competition I attended where Jing competed.

 

[Finnice]

I just hope Jin takes time to recover. At the medallist's press conference in Boston he admitted that figure skating os not only about quads, and he knows he had lot to do with this.

 

[Meoima]

Thanks for sharing this very detailed report. It is very interesting!

As to how it pertains to scoring, the issue I see is this: judges do not... and really cannot... sit there and count crossovers, amount of time on one foot, etc. In a four+ minute program (which judges see once and then score immediately) there is almost no difference between Yuzu & Chan's 26 crossovers and Kolyada's 31.

Now, if Shoma has double the crossovers... then yes, it should be noticed and penalized... and probably is... but that in itself, along with all transitions, is just a small percentage of what is being judged as part of PCS, which is why transitions by themselves are not necessarily a PCS dealbreaker.

Judges are not audience. They’re supposed to notice the difference. They’re supposed to have a lot of experience. Yet the scores they give out don’t always reflect that. If you look at how they score a skater with reputation (Carolina for example), the TR is still huge even though that certain skaters don’t do much skating transitions, mostly on 2 foot.
Specialists are not audience. They’re all supposed to notice all these little details, and specialists are paid. But we have seen how they mess up the tech calls from time to time for even easy cases. Look at the mess of bad calls at CoC this season.

 

[Meoima]

This suggests that the fans of Hanyu in particular can be crazy, as opposed to the fans of other skaters. I don't believe that to be true. Hanyu simply has a lot of fans because he is a well-known and very successful skater. But those 'crazy' fans would be the same should they be rooting for another skater, or another athlete in a different sport.

And I don't think they are 'crazy', just having fun (for them).

I was at CoC, I gave standing ovations for many skaters, Carolina, The Shibs, K/S etc... and I don’t see anyone crazy over there. The young girl who dressed up was actually very calm and nice when people talked ro her and she was just emotional as it’s the first time she saw her favorite program live. People came to her, took photos with her, and told her she’s beautiful in that costume and she’s happy. There’s nothing crazy at all. It was a great event.

The only big negativity is some people who were not there go around spreading their judgemental statements and dismiss young fans’s effort and passion. It’s their money and their time, their dedication to go all the way to see a sporting event, and they were actually all very polite. The pooh rains were cute and children got all the benefits in the end. It’s funny people have to judge such action and paint it in a negative light.

I also have many friends who do cosplay at Comic con every year, and even though I don’t do that, I respect what they do as it’s for their own satisfaction, who am I to judge.

 

[Japanfan]

Things I've been missing again and again and again every competition I attended where Jing competed.

It's 'Jin', not 'Jing'.

 

[TAHbKA]

It's 'Jin', not 'Jing'.

Thanks! Am ashamed of how bad I am with the Asian skaters' names