Australian skating news

[Bunny Hop]

Also, there's no nationwide curriculum as primary and secondary education is run by the individual states, so even if it existed in one state it might not in another.

 

[Karen-W]

Link to the "Harley & Katia documentary" GSD thread:

"Harley & Katya" documentary

Based on the comments from those who have watched this new documentary (starting here in the Australian news thread: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/australian-skating-news.98953/page-55#post-6354736), I thought it was worth creating a separate thread for higher visibility and...

www.fsuniverse.net

ISA has announced their 2023 4CC and Junior Worlds teams (document is linked from the High Performance page under "International Nominations, Assignments and Rankings"): https://www.isa.org.au/_files/ugd/b5945d_86642aa670e745e3a078591d9a57ef6d.pdf

4 Continents Team
Women
Victoria Alcantara
Vlada Vasiliev

Men
Darian Kaptich

Pairs
Anastasia Golubeva/Hektor Giotopoulos Moore

Dance
Holly Harris/Jason Chan
India Nette/Eron Westwood

Jr Worlds 2023
Women
Vlada Vasiliev
(Sub: Sienna Kaczmarczyk)
Pairs
Anastasia Golubeva/Hektor Giotopoulos Moore

Listed on the 2022-2023 International Assignments spreadsheet:

World University Games (Jan 13-15, 2023, Lake Placid NY):
Woman: Romy Grogan
Man: Callum Bradshaw

So, no Chernyshova/Windsor.

 

[leilaofpaper]

I will say this, my immediate reaction to the documentary (other than just straight up sobbing) was a profound hope that TPTB have learnt their lessons and are conscious of Katya’s struggles in how they support Anastasia.

 

[Orm Irian]

Is it part of a universal curriculum in Australia where students are taught budgeting, banking, what interest is, contract basics, and other financial information that people need if they're on their own and is helpful even if they're not? I don't think that many young people know these things, unless they were taught financial literacy by someone they know or through a local, special program.

A certain (small) amount of financial literacy used to be taught, but it was done by predatory banks in order to hook kids as customers young and set them up to start using credit cards the instant they were eligible, and they've lately been kicked out of schools. What will replace them is yet to be decided on - whether by individual schools or by state and territory Departments of Education.

 

[Orm Irian]

So, no Chernyshova/Windsor.

Well, Harley's broken leg is still healing!

 

[Frau Muller]

So, no Chernyshova/Windsor.

How he could mentally continue is a stretch, IMHO. Wishing him the best for the next chapter of his life.

 

[Sylvia]

Had to go back in this thread to find his specific injury (Sept. 27, 2022):

Some ouchy news - Harley Windsor just posted on his Instagram that he broke his (right) ankle in a training accident last week and had to have surgery on it. The surgery was successful though, which is good to know. Wishing him a quick and full recovery!

 

[aussieSKATES]

Link to the "Harley & Katia documentary" GSD thread:

"Harley & Katya" documentary

Based on the comments from those who have watched this new documentary (starting here in the Australian news thread: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/australian-skating-news.98953/page-55#post-6354736), I thought it was worth creating a separate thread for higher visibility and...

www.fsuniverse.net

ISA has announced their 2023 4CC and Junior Worlds teams (document is linked from the High Performance page under "International Nominations, Assignments and Rankings"): https://www.isa.org.au/_files/ugd/b5945d_86642aa670e745e3a078591d9a57ef6d.pdf

4 Continents Team
Women
Victoria Alcantara
Vlada Vasiliev

Men
Darian Kaptich

Pairs
Anastasia Golubeva/Hektor Giotopoulos Moore

Dance
Holly Harris/Jason Chan
India Nette/Eron Westwood

Jr Worlds 2023
Women
Vlada Vasiliev
(Sub: Sienna Kaczmarczyk)
Pairs
Anastasia Golubeva/Hektor Giotopoulos Moore

Listed on the 2022-2023 International Assignments spreadsheet:

World University Games (Jan 13-15, 2023, Lake Placid NY):
Woman: Romy Grogan
Man: Callum Bradshaw

We were wondering which skaters and teams would be representing New Zealand at the same events?
We're guessing that Jocelyn Hong, Douglas Gerber, and Charlotte Lafond-Fournier / Richard Kang In Kam will go to Four Continents, and Dwayne Li will be selected for Junior Worlds.

 

[Karen-W]

We were wondering which skaters and teams would be representing New Zealand at the same events?
We're guessing that Jocelyn Hong, Douglas Gerber, and Charlotte Lafond-Fournier / Richard Kang In Kam will go to Four Continents, and Dwayne Li will be selected for Junior Worlds.

The three you named for 4CCs are the only ones with the TES mins, so that's my guess too.

 

[clairecloutier]

Harley Windsor announced the end of his partnership with Maria Chernyshova in an IG story.

 

[Hedwig]

Oh no. Are reasons given?

 

[Hedwig]

Just watched it. No reason given „it wasn’t meant to be“ and that he wants to go on skating so anyone looking for a pairs partner send him a DM.
What about Minerva Haase?

 

[Karen-W]

Just watched it. No reason given „it wasn’t meant to be“ and that he wants to go on skating so anyone looking for a pairs partner send him a DM.
What about Minerva Haase?

She's rumored to be partnered with Nikita Volodin, I believe.

I'm sure there are plenty of talented pairs women who would appreciate the opportunity to partner with and experienced male pairs skater like Harley.

 

[Dobre]

I'm sure there are plenty of talented pairs women who would appreciate the opportunity to partner with and experienced male pairs skater like Harley.

Not so easy right now, as Bidar demonstrated when he went to Canada.

Elite pairs has lost a number of talented ladies that were climbing the pairs ranks in various countries (Canada & the U.S. not excepted). Seems like there are more guys with experience floating around the international ranks right now than experienced ladies.

Of course, a lot of teams are at a very developmental stage right now.

 

[ice crystal]

Not so easy right now, as Bidar demonstrated when he went to Canada.

Elite pairs has lost a number of talented ladies that were climbing the pairs ranks in various countries (Canada & the U.S. not excepted). Seems like there are more guys with experience floating around the international ranks right now than experienced ladies.

Of course, a lot of teams are at a very developmental stage right now.

Bidar is 1.76m. That would limit his options significantly. Being almost 10cm taller, Harley will hopefully be fine.

 

[sus2850]

I was a bit worried by the pre-anouncement where Harley wrote something about presenting arguments, did someone catch that as his story?

 

[LoisAGOEs]

Considering Harley’s idolisation of Andrew Tate (re his twitter) and the fact that he defended Aljona teaming up with TJ Nyman…yeah I’m gonna hope another woman doesn’t partner him to be honest.

 

[leilaofpaper]

Well, Harley is clearly looking for another partner.

Him being a fan of Andrew Tate makes me sick to my stomach though.

 

[Trillian]

Considering Harley’s idolisation of Andrew Tate (re his twitter) and the fact that he defended Aljona teaming up with TJ Nyman…yeah I’m gonna hope another woman doesn’t partner him to be honest.

Edit: Actually, never mind.

I will just concur that I think a huge Andrew Tate fan is unlikely to have a strong basis for developing a healthy relationship with a skating partner.

 

[Hedwig]

oh okay. then good riddance.

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

Well, Harley is clearly looking for another partner.

Him being a fan of Andrew Tate makes me sick to my stomach though.

Considering Harley’s idolisation of Andrew Tate (re his twitter) and the fact that he defended Aljona teaming up with TJ Nyman…yeah I’m gonna hope another woman doesn’t partner him to be honest.

A little bit off topic here.

I had no idea who Andrew Tate was, until I Googled this Twitter smackdown he received from Greta Thunberg. Just when I thought I couldn't love her more, her reply to his nonsense behaviour was brilliant.

Greta Thunberg ends year with one of the greatest tweets in history | Rebecca Solnit

Thunberg’s funny exchange is a reminder of the connection between machismo, misogyny and hostility to climate action

www.theguardian.com

 

[sus2850]

I also had to google this person (Tate) and was shocked. Hope he and his brother are jailed if they really did what they are accused of.

 

[greenapple]

I also had to google this person (Tate) and was shocked. Hope he and his brother are jailed if they really did what they are accused of.

I saw a news story earlier today that he and his brother are going to be living in a Romanian jail for the next 30 days while the police continue their investigation.

I think Windsor will have a very hard time finding a new partner. News travels fast in skating circles.

 

[tony]

I was a bit worried by the pre-anouncement where Harley wrote something about presenting arguments, did someone catch that as his story?

Yes, I shared said story with a few other members of FSU when he first posted. Certainly sounded like there was some big news/drama he had, and seemed eager to share. And then it was just a simple break up post.

 

[ninjapirate]

He should try show skating (which if my instagram is any indication is having a bit of a revival). I fear that pursuing the Olympics is just going to leave him and whoever he ends up partnering with embittered.

 

[hanca]

I think Windsor will have a very hard time finding a new partner. News travels fast in skating circles.

I think you are a bit optimistic or naive. If someone like Fajfr can continue coaching, why would Windsor have a hard time finding a partner?

 

[greenapple]

I think you are a bit optimistic or naive. If someone like Fajfr can continue coaching, why would Windsor have a hard time finding a partner?

Neither. You are mixing apples with oranges. One situation has zero to do with the other.

 

[Trillian]

I think you are a bit optimistic or naive. If someone like Fajfr can continue coaching, why would Windsor have a hard time finding a partner?

Neither. You are mixing apples with oranges. One situation has zero to do with the other.

I wouldn’t use the Fajfr comparison in particular, but I am inclined to agree he will be able to find another partner. He may not have as many options as he would if he wasn’t giving an enthusiastic thumbs up to violence against women on social media, but high level pairs partners are limited and there’s usually someone willing to give it a shot. Especially if he’s looking in Russia - I’m sure there are girls who would see it as one of the few paths they have to compete internationally right now.

All I’m aware that’s widely known at this point is that Harley is a fan of some misogynistic attitudes. Male pairs skaters have been given a pass for much, much worse behavior in the past, and unfortunately, I have a hard time imagining the sport has changed that much.

 

[Hedwig]

All I’m aware that’s widely known at this point is that Harley is a fan of some misogynistic attitudes.

I did not know. Are there other proofs then him following a misogynistic a$$hole? That is already quite a lot but since I never followed him before I do not know if he said anything like this or liked any posts that point to this?

 

[clairecloutier]

One question would also be where Windsor is at right now in terms of skills and physical condition. Yes, he has past high-level experience. But he's also had some injuries and has only competed once internationally in the past 3 years.