2024 Grand Prix Final - Free Dance: “Dry Your Eyes Bates”

[Barbara Manatee]

This quad is just very weak in the dance field.

Considering that there's a decent chance the quad will give us Chock and Bates winning 4 World and 2 Olympic golds, I have to agree. At least the pandemonium amongst V/M, P/C and D/W ubers will be genuinely epic.

 

[MacMadame]

I just saw they thought the score was too low, but also i don't disagree about Chock/Bates. They should be closer to everyone else. Honestly ice dance overall should be much more competitive than it currently is. There's like 10 teams or so i think could be changing podium places on any given day but it's just not the scoring reality. GOEs are treated like ordinals and don't really indicate what happened on the ice most of the time and it's exhausting but also i guess that's the new vision.

It's the old vision too. Unfortunately.

 

[tony]

wrong thread

 

[floridaice]

Chock has more vision in her pinky than 75% of the field, but it doesn’t excuse the reality that she’s (unsurprisingly, given age and length of career) getting even slower and cautious in some of the steps and edges.

The program is good, the concept maybe even great. 1930s era of The Empire State is conceptually fertile, but they haven’t elevated it up to its potential yet. Wish they leaned more into just like straight Buddy Rich solos vs. club singing and scating to Take Five.

The concept is 1930s NYC? Evan DEFINITELY needs to change his costume. Zoot suit, tout suite!

Well, Art Deco and jazz continue to be important cornerstones of NY, but I say 20s/30s given the height of the Jazz Age. Could be a 50s business man going out for a night in the city

Take Five was released in 1959, so Evan might be dressed correctly and Maddie in the wrong style.

 

[PRlady]

Just occurred to me that the Peals are the only Americans going home without a medal.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Take Five was released in 1959, so Evan might be dressed correctly and Maddie in the wrong style.

And I think it only became a hit in 1961 so, in theory, a Mad Men theme would work.

 

[floridaice]

And I think it only became a hit in 1961 so, in theory, a Mad Men theme would work.

Maddie would look gorgeous regardless

 

[SkateSand]

Just occurred to me that the Peals are the only Americans going home without a medal.

Kam & O'Shea as well, I think.

 

[PRlady]

Kam & O'Shea as well, I think.

Oh yeah. But still a nice medal haul.

 

[4rkidz]

Not this geriatric. I will be like this French crowd.

Yeah me too, actually this has been my favourite audience not only young but knowledgeable too.

 

[Private Citizen]

So, why don't the ice dance aficionados here explain why it wasn't?

Curious: Would you have put Fear and Gibson higher in the free dance? Above the Italians or Gilles and Poirier?

I don't think F&G are nearly as bad as people make them out to be, and I'd love to see them as World Champions for sh*ts and giggles . That said, I thought the scores were spot on today, from a relative standpoint. (Ice dance judging is all so wacky that I think we're back to 6.0-like relativism with the GOEs and PCS.)

F&G's elements were scored higher than G&F, which I agree with. Presentation was about equal. Composition had more of a gap. But the biggest gap remains skating skills, which IMO is fair.

One competition is a snapshot in time. Things can, do, and should change from competition to competition.

 

[Theatregirl1122]

The FDs by the top 4 make me feel like they all got together and decided to collectively create crappy programs as commentary on how little anything matters in ice dance scoring. It's all so bad that Chock and Bates skating to scat is the best of the lot.

 

[Karen-W]

The FDs by the top 4 make me feel like they all got together and decided to collectively create crappy programs as commentary on how little anything matters in ice dance scoring. It's all so bad that Chock and Bates skating to scat is the best of the lot.

You are not wrong about this. About the only thing I'm thankful for is that ChoBat didn't try to take their white sheet exh program or their "I Hear a Symphony" exh from last year and convert it into a FD for this season.

 

[Spikefan]

You are not wrong about this. About the only thing I'm thankful for is that ChoBat didn't try to take their white sheet exh program or their "I Hear a Symphony" exh from last year and convert it into a FD for this season.

And not next season either, please. No more exhibition conversions.

 

[leilaofpaper]

I am hoping and praying that everyone has just saved their best ideas for Olympic season and that’s why there are so many bad or lacklustre programs this season.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

The FDs by the top 4 make me feel like they all got together and decided to collectively create crappy programs as commentary on how little anything matters in ice dance scoring. It's all so bad that Chock and Bates skating to scat is the best of the lot.

That’s why it was a true crime the finns werent there and Zingas and Kolesnik.

 

[Karen-W]

That’s why it was a true crime the finns werent there and Zingas and Kolesnik.

no, the true crime was the absence of CarPon & SmaDie. TurkVer too, but ZingKol can stay home - I'd rather have the Taschlers.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I’m just gonna say …. I can’t wait to vote for Paul Poirier for best dressed.

 

[Karen-W]

I’m just gonna say …. I can’t wait to vote for Paul Poirier for best dressed.

It's crazy talk like this that gets people disenfranchised.

 

[PRlady]

My casual-fan BFF in Canada read that Gil/Poi finished fifth and asked me why. She’d gone to YouTube to watch the FD, which she liked, but was utterly puzzled by the costumes. I couldn’t help her there.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

It's crazy talk like this that gets people disenfranchised.

Ahhhhh I would wear that free program outfit any day, and most of the RD as well

 

[MacMadame]

Ahhhhh I would wear that free program outfit any day, and most of the RD as well

which one? Piper's or Paul's