2024 Grand Prix Final - Rhythm Dance: “Crying At The Disco Tech”

[TanithandBenFan]

Someone needs to burn this music. Also, there has to be a law that you can't do YMCA if you don't do the YMCA arms!

They did do the arms.

 

[Coco]

I'm all for 12 dance teams in the GP final. If they really want too, they can cut to 2 warmup groups' worth of skaters for the FD. that would get the Finns in this

 

[Rukia]

They did do the arms.

i actually love this part because they manage to do it in hold-ish and it doesn't look awkward so it's fun

 

[dupa]

I'm all for 12 dance teams in the GP final. If they really want too, they can cut to 2 warmup groups' worth of skaters for the FD. that would get the Finns in this

I agree, not enough qualifiers in ANY discipline for the GPF!

 

[marbri]

Spanish judge, Ms. Marta OLOZAGARRE, gave the following to Lajoie/Lagha 7:00 / 7.25 / 6.50
6.50 in Skatings Skills for a team that finished 5th at worlds last year and qualified for the GPF

I admit I don't follow things that closely anymore but I don't recall anything THAT blatant in some time.

 

[tony]

Spanish judge, Ms. Marta OLOZAGARRE, gave the following to Lajoie/Lagha 7:00 / 7.25 / 6.50
6.50 in Skatings Skills for a team that finished 5th at worlds last year and qualified for the GPF

I admit I don't follow things that closely anymore but I don't recall anything THAT blatant in some time.

It happens a lot, and if there's only one judge doing it, it doesn't really matter since that'll get tossed.

But for what it's worth, she was at Skate America last year and gave them 8.50/8.75/8.25 in the rhythm dance.

 

[marbri]

It happens a lot, and if there's only one judge doing it, it doesn't really matter since that'll get tossed.

But for what it's worth, she was at Skate America last year and gave them 8.50/8.75/8.25 in the rhythm dance.

Hence the blatant comment.

 

[Karen-W]

Digging into the protocols a bit...

Both ChoBat and LajLag received 1 "violation of choreo restrictions" notification. GilPoir received 1 "costume/prop violation" notification.

 

[Private Citizen]

In a way, I have to admire the Spanish judge's willingness to so obviously politick for a Brit and a German .

I would have given those PCS to Gilles and Poirier , not to Lajoie and Lagha, who deserved better.

I'm curious what people in the arena think because last season i thought he came across a lot better in person

Way late, but I thought Lagha was surprisingly expressive in the arena, given his "grumpy cat" reputation. Your hypothesis may be correct.

 

[Tak]

Digging into the protocols a bit...

Both ChoBat and LajLag received 1 "violation of choreo restrictions" notification. GilPoir received 1 "costume/prop violation" notification.

What does that mean? What did they do wrong exactly? Does anyone know?

 

[Theatregirl1122]

I've just caught up and I assume that no one cares about my opinions on the skaters hours late so instead I will simply reply to everything I want to reply to.

Won’t that potentially hinder your wuzrobbing if you don’t see the others?

No, you clearly don't understand uberdom. As soon as Lala skated, I knew they were robbed no matter where they finished. I do not need to see the rest. (but also they were robbed)

I beg to differ. When I saw the glitter air tanks I laughed out loud. It's exactly the right level of silliness for Barbie.

I first saw these costumes and thought "WTF???" and then after about 1 second I thought "never mind, this is perfect"

Ted: it's like a history lesson. Hmm, I'm not sure that's what the Visionary Shawn had in mind.

I feel confident in promising that ChoBat's RD is exactly Resttstatt's vision.

I will never understand the judges' love for Chock and Bates. Never.

They didn't love them particularly when they were with Igor. After the switch to Montreal, they still didn't love them much. Now that G/P, V/M, and H/D are all retired and the Russians are banned, the judges have done lost their minds.


Also: in the middle G/F's RD I had the thought: "I really just don't like this." And with this I reached enlightenment. I know they are easily the best skaters of the top 4. But they just don't ever produce programs I like at all. I'm never going to like them. I've decided to stop trying.

 

[BaileyCatts]

What are the 4 outfits that G&P have used because I only remember 3. Pink & Yellow combination, the Lifeguards, Scuba and ....

 

[Karen-W]

What are the 4 outfits that G&P have used because I only remember 3. Pink & Yellow combination, the Lifeguards, Scuba and ....

They've shown a pink floral one in practices at both Finlandia and this week, but they haven't worn it in competition yet. There is apparently a 5th one, but I haven't seen a photo of it yet, so I don't think they've worn it at any public practices yet.

 

[LilJen]

Because it doesn't matter how hard the dance is. They are looking at four specific sets of steps within the pattern and if the edges and turns aren't clean, then no 'Y' assigned. There is so much meticulousness going on there.

But do you even know which set of steps they are looking at? Because almost any skater can do some turns but they have to be precisely clean and on the correct edges throughout.

This is why I constantly say it's not really a case of 'oh that looked good, I can guess the level'. Doesn't work like that on the midline and pattern steps in dance.

Okay, but no one is saying that. We are explaining that they are key points within the entire pattern that are literally the only thing that matter when assigning the level. One technical panelist is zoned in on the woman and one is zoned in on the man, as it's quite difficult to follow both throughout. The dance itself may look smooth as hell but it might not have an exactly precise shift from LBO to LFI edge, or so-on. Maybe there's a flat. Maybe there's a split-second wavering of the edge.

Unless you have the literal exact steps of the dance memorized, then everything can look like L4 where they didn't hit a single thing correctly. Same with the one-foot sequence.

Used to be we knew all the key points and the detailed sheets would show YNYY or whatever. Why don’t they do that any more? Have the key points been shrouded in mystery to the skaters as well for some… vision?

 

[NinjaTurtles]

The required steps from the pattern are listed in the season’s technical rules: https://current.isu.org/inside-isu/...munications/33758-isu-communication-2630/file

 

[vireo]

What does that mean? What did they do wrong exactly? Does anyone know?

I've heard that sometimes the violation buttons can be pushed accidentally by a judge. AFAIK, there is no penalty unless a certain number of judges cite a violation.