2024-25 USFS International Assignments

[Jarrett]

I think that what that says is that USFSA doesn’t think Chan and Howe will be improving this season and should focus on next season.

 

[Rukia]

McBPark are going to the OWG test event. I find it REALLY interesting that they're being sent to this over KamOShea (or ShiNagy), to be honest. Why would we send a pairs team to the OWG test event that isn't even going to be in the mix for the Olympics spots? Or, perhaps they are in the mix after all...

or they gave mcbeath/parkman the option of which they wanted to go to and they picked the test event?? Or any number of other things lol idk to me this all kind of makes sense but also it gets me another shin/nagy competition so you know

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Nothing except for something I haven’t heard of for Katie and Danil? Looks like they applied the Sarah Everhardt 2024 treatment

Tee-hee

 

[zigzig]

I think it's good they're giving Shin/Nagy the exposure. They're on the up and up and I feel like C/H, as much as I love them, have maxed out their abilities. And maybe that is injury related and the rest will help them refocus and re-energize.

This Road to 26 event seems interesting though - wasn't even on my radar. Can't find an entry list or anything.

 

[Jarrett]

McBPark are going to the OWG test event. I find it REALLY interesting that they're being sent to this over KamOShea (or ShiNagy), to be honest. Why would we send a pairs team to the OWG test event that isn't even going to be in the mix for the Olympics spots? Or, perhaps they are in the mix after all...

They are definitely in the mix if we have three spots. They are a team to be watched even with two. I was really impressed with them in person. Everything was good, they are doing the hardest content.

 

[Karen-W]

Drew Meekins has that kind of pull with the federation? I'm unsure about that.. I'd believe Bruno Marcotte had more pull even if he is Canadian. No offense to Drew but he hasn't coached a senior world championship team to my knowledge.

Yes - he's tight with Justin Dillon. There have been some questionable assignments in pairs the past couple seasons and it's always been to the benefit of a Meekins team.

I think that what that says is that USFSA doesn’t think Chan and Howe will be improving this season and should focus on next season.

Can't say I necessarily disagree with this either. Hopefully they are also told to ditch their terrible FS.

 

[Karen-W]

They are definitely in the mix if we have three spots. They are a team to be watched even with two. I was really impressed with them in person. Everything was good, they are doing the hardest content.

Well, I meant "in the mix" because he has a US passport unbeknownst to the general fandom.

 

[Jarrett]

Yes - he's tight with Justin Dillon. There have been some questionable assignments in pairs the past couple seasons and it's always been to the benefit of a Meekins team.

Can't say I necessarily disagree with this either. Hopefully they are also told to ditch their terrible FS.

I feel like the program improved from when we first saw it but I’m definitely raving about it and wouldn’t think it is something that warrants being using for two years.

 

[Rukia]

who is going to be brave enough to ask parkman if he has a secret us passport or secret marriage years ago or whatever

 

[Jarrett]

Well, I meant "in the mix" because he has a US passport unbeknownst to the general fandom.

Oh okay I don’t follow their passports. lol

 

[Spiralgraph]

Nothing is ever simple or easily explained.. I think I'll just sit back and wait for the men's announcements. Maybe we'll have less drama there.

 

[Rhumba d’Amour]

Wait. Shin/Nagy got 4Cs over Chan/Howe?

That is what jumped out to me as well.
I kind of expected that USFS would pass over McBeath/Parkman and send Kam/OShea to Worlds

 

[kwanfan1818]

I would have sent E/M, M/P, and S/N to 4C's, and left K/O and C/H home to regroup, and, if there's an injury with C/H, to heal and start thinking of next season. The incremental WS points that K/O and C/H might get at 4C's aren't going to be very meaningful for them for GP start orders, and E/M, M/P, and S/N need every point they can get.

I would rather see the Top 5 US Pairs be ranked more equally going into next season and for all of them to get/have championship experience.

But they didn't ask me

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Do you get points for doing the test event? Otherwise I’m staying home with peanut butter cups

 

[Jarrett]

I would have sent E/M, M/P, and S/N to 4C's, and left K/O and C/H home to regroup, and, if there's an injury with C/H, to heal and start thinking of next season. The incremental WS points that K/O and C/H might get at 4C's aren't going to be very meaningful for them for GP start orders, and E/M, M/P, and S/N need every point they can get.

I would rather see the Top 5 US Pairs be ranked more equally going into next season and for all of them to get/have championship experience.

But they didn't ask me

Just guessing here but I think kam and oshea want to wash that skate out of their mouth before worlds. I don’t think the next time they want to compete is after that huge disaster of a skate.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Actually, now that I have digested the assignments, I think they are good. I just wanna know if Katie and Danill get points for having to do a test event.

The promise that Audrey and Balasz show is exponential so more exposure before the spring time hopefully gets them GP assignments as Katie and Danill will already have that

 

[Karen-W]

I would have sent E/M, M/P, and S/N to 4C's, and left K/O and C/H home to regroup, and, if there's an injury with C/H, to heal and start thinking of next season. The incremental WS points that K/O and C/H might get at 4C's aren't going to be very meaningful for them for GP start orders, and E/M, M/P, and S/N need every point they can get.

I would rather see the Top 5 US Pairs be ranked more equally going into next season and for all of them to get/have championship experience.

But they didn't ask me

Except that the bulk of ChanHowe's WS points are going to be dropped after this season and they have just their Worlds points from last season and their GP/Int'l points from this season, so they're going to drop quite a bit. Now, I think they're a quality enough team that if they come out strong in some early Challengers next season, they're not going to be hurt if they wind up in the first group at any GP.

 

[Tinycities]

has anyone heard anything in regards to Daniil Parkman and citizenship?

I was reading Claire Cloutiers article from last year and was surprised to see he grew up in the US, similarly to Nagy, but no mention of citizenship.


Edit: welp looks like I’m not the one thinking there’s a secret passport!

 

[Karen-W]

has anyone heard anything in regards to Daniil Parkman and citizenship?

I was reading Claire Cloutiers article from last year and was surprised to see he grew up in the US, similarly to Nagy, but no mention of citizenship.

That is the question of the day, being asked all over the figure skating fandom, lol.

We need answers!!!! (stomps)

 

[Private Citizen]

Wow, these assignments definitely seem more political than in the past.

Chan and Howe have been benched after a rough season.

Shin and Nagy got the nod for 4CC, I guess for World Standings points and GP? They're behind both McB/P and C/H in the Worlds alternate list, though.

I guess McBeath and Parkman got this test event over 4CC because they're not as in need of World Standings points and maybe because they're not Olympic eligible?

This is definitely not the old USFS. I can't decide if I like all of this manipulation and working the system or not.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Chan and Howe have been benched after a rough season

After the competition yesterday, I didn’t expect them to get anything anymore the rest of the season. Last year they were injured. They didn’t show much this year.

For me, it would’ve been surprising if they got anything.

 

[PRlady]

has anyone heard anything in regards to Daniil Parkman and citizenship?

I was reading Claire Cloutiers article from last year and was surprised to see he grew up in the US, similarly to Nagy, but no mention of citizenship.

I have an Israeli friend who grew up here and she does have US citizenship, she applied at age 18. I’m gonna tag @MsZem who also lived here as a teenager to inquire how easy it is to get citizenship that way.

 

[Tinycities]

If it turns out Parkman has a US passport or green card, a lot of things will start to make more sense.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I went over this a third time, the worlds entries…including the order of the alternates seems exactly right to me.

And then for 4 c all I wanna know still is if Katie and Danill get points for the test event…. if so, then I’m fine with 4 cc and the alternate order as well.

I don’t think it seems political. Political would be if Emily and Spencer made any of the teams. That would be political.

 

[Karen-W]

I went over this a third time, the worlds entries…including the order of the alternates seems exactly right to me.

And then for 4 c all I wanna know still is if Katie and Danill get points for the test event…. if so, then I’m fine with 4 cc and the alternate order as well.

I don’t think it seems political. Political would be if Emily and Spencer made any of the teams. That would be political.

Yes, they should get WS points. The competition is open to all ISU Members and the only limits are on the # of entries from each country as well as the field size, neither of which would disqualify the event from being eligible for WS points.

 

[tangerine dream]

Yes, they should get WS points. The competition is open to all ISU Members and the only limits are on the # of entries from each country as well as the field size, neither of which would disqualify the event from being eligible for WS points.

If it gets points it will be as a Senior B and it won't be anywhere near as many points as 4CC and scores won't count for the Seasons Best list.

 

[Karen-W]

If it gets points it will be as a Senior B and it won't be anywhere near as many points as 4CC and scores won't count for the Seasons Best list.

Correct.

 

[farahfan]

That is the question of the day, being asked all over the figure skating fandom, lol.

We need answers!!!! (stomps)

Journalists had a good chance to at the pairs FS press conference, but no, everybody was pooped and just wanted to go home.

 

[farahfan]

I have an Israeli friend who grew up here and she does have US citizenship, she applied at age 18. I’m gonna tag @MsZem who also lived here as a teenager to inquire how easy it is to get citizenship that way.

If you come to the US as a child, I do know that you can't become naturalized unless one of your parents becomes naturalized first.

All this secrecy about pairs citizenship is maddening. We fans can't do our duty of forecasting things properly. Why can't all skaters be like Filippo Clerici who just came straight out and said I ain't doing no citizenship process and I ain't going to the Olympics??

 

[MsZem]

I have an Israeli friend who grew up here and she does have US citizenship, she applied at age 18. I’m gonna tag @MsZem who also lived here as a teenager to inquire how easy it is to get citizenship that way.

Can't help - I'm not a US citizen and have never considered trying to become one, since I have a perfectly good German citizenship