2023 Russian Nationals, Dec. 22-25, 2022 in Krasnoyarsk

[Sylvia]

Today's livestream (Pairs & Women FS): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YNkq2RDSk

 

[rfisher]

The flu hit the pair teams. At least nobody was seriously injured.

 

[Amy L]

For a pair that is accused of being checked-out and disinterested, I don't think I've ever seen T/M as checked-out and disinterested as they were today. Trankov dancing around backstage was more into it than they were I still haven't changed my opinion that they continued just to keep Vladimir away from the draft.

 

[Amy L]

I've never seen Mishina so upset, she sobbed as soon as she saw the placements and kept her face covered with her hands the whole time the camera was on her.

1. Boikova/Kozlovski 234.39
2. Mishina/Gallyamov 233.88
3. Tarasova/Morozov 218.60
4. Kadyrova/Kolesov 213.45
5. Chikmaryova/Yanchenkov 211.44

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[rfisher]

I don't think there was a clean skate by any team.
Final
Boikova/Kozlovski wins (she two-footed a throw)
Mish/Gal (she doubled the 3S)
Tar/Mor (too many mistakes to count) IMHO, Kad/Kol should have got the bronze.
Kadyrova/Kolesov and they had a lift bobble (I really like them though)

Errors in jumps, errors in lifts, errors in spins and really weirdly several errors in the BIDS. Some of the skaters looked like death warmed over. I suspect they're all just glad this is over.

 

[rfisher]

For a pair that is accused of being checked-out and disinterested, I don't think I've ever seen T/M as checked-out and disinterested as they were today. Trankov dancing around backstage was more into it than they were I still haven't changed my opinion that they continued just to keep Vladimir away from the draft.

I suspect you're right.

 

[caseyedwards]

Glad to see real pairs teams! I’d much rather watch some real and genuine pairs teams make mistakes than teams that don’t even seem like they are trying to match, be in sync!

B/K were great! I don’t even remember a big error unlike T/M in which every jump was a problem but still somehow looked spectacular as a real pair team.

It’s true one double jump was probably why m/g lost but the red suit is great. Big Red!

 

[Frau Muller]

I've never seen Mishina so upset, she sobbed as soon as she saw the placements and kept her face covered with her hands the whole time the camera was on her.

1. Boikova/Kozlovski 234.39
2. Mishina/Gallyamov 233.88
3. Tarasova/Morozov 218.60
4. Kadyrova/Kolesov 213.45
5. Chikmaryova/Yanchenkov 211.44

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Kadyrova/Kolesov deserved bronze!
I hope we don’t see such shenanigans for Women…

Bravo, Boikova/Kozlovski… ELVIS was beaten?

 

[rfisher]

Actually, the issue was the whole combo. Mishina didn't do the Euler and then doubled the salchow, so they didn't get credit for the combo. It was hard to tell about the Euler, because sometimes her's looks like a stumble, but after seeing the protocols and rewatching, it was obvious. That's why she was so upset. Boi/Koz weren't perfect. Their 3S was called with a < and she 2-footed the second throw, but Mishina's error was more costly.I

I would like pairs to be judged like dance now where each skater gets a score instead of the team losing so many points if one skater makes a mistake on a side-by-side element. But. skating in sync is an important part of pair skating so I can understand if the ISU keeps the scoring as is.

 

[rfisher]

Women 3A/quad count
Group one
Gorbacheva: 4s (fall) 4S-combo (excellent) all other jumps clean except 2 foot on 3 flip. Score 142 (into first with 202 point total)
Group two
Zinina: 4T fall, 4T-2T good
Samodelkina 3A 2foot, 4S fall

 

[rfisher]

Group two
Ksenia Guschina: 2A-3T, 3F, 3lz, 2A, 3Lz-Euler-3S, 3Lo-2T, 3Lo, All clean and she's happy and so is Davydov. Score 135.5 into 2nd.

 

[rfisher]

Anna Frolova I've always liked her skating
3Lo-2T
internet bobbled and I missed the middle but given her points, there were errors
FCCoSp3
ChSq1
3S
2A-Euler 3S (hand down on 3S)
3Lo
StSq2
CCoSp4
LSp4
She's not very happy.
Score 209.22 and she's 3rd

 

[Frau Muller]

Zakharova! Real LIFE and musicality using the upbeat Moulin Rouge music.

 

[rfisher]

Sofia Zakharova
I Missed the combo but it was clean
3F
3Lo
2A
FSSp4
ChSq1
3F-2T
1Lz
2A=Eu-3S
CCoSp4
StSq2
LSp4

I like her SP better, but she's a little cutie.
Score: 125 total 193 and into 4th

 

[rfisher]

Zinina
4T fall
4T-2T good
3Lo
3S
CCoSp4
ChSq1
3Lz-3T
3Lz-2A-2A
3F
FCSp4
StSq3
FCCCoSp4
Score: 145.99 total 217.39 into 1st

 

[rfisher]

Sofia Samodelkina
3A twp foot
4S fall
2A
3F
FcSp4
ChSq1
3Lz-3Lo
3Lo-eular-3S
3F fall
FCCoSp3
StSq3
CCoSp4
She's a lovely skater who has grown a lot. She's struggled all season. Hopefully next year is better for her. She's not happy. I'm still not sure the move to Sokolovskya was the best, but what do I know? But she's gettin a hug from her so there's that.

Score 128.08 total 199.72 and 4th

 

[Frau Muller]

YAMETOVA!!! Real artiste. Lovely Cirque du Soleil program in holiday dress - red & green combination!

Zinina was ok - like Repond of Switzerland…turn her on snd she zips about like a machine, with minimal artistry. But she has a lively, happy face in Kiss n Cry.

Zinina 1st, Yametova 2nd before last group.

 

[rfisher]

Yamatova (her SP is a favorite)
3 something
2A-3T
FCCoSpr
3F-2T-2Lo
LSp4
3Lz-2A
3F
ChSq1
3Lo
CCoSp4
StSq3
She is a little spitfire. Hopefully, she'll develop the harder elements because she's got personality in spades. The crowd loves her.
Score 141.9 total 215.94 and 2nd
She's happy.

 

[rfisher]

Final group SP scores
Ksenia Sinitsina 74.89
Adelia Petrosyan 76.25
Kamila Valieva 76.61
Sofia Muravieva 79.96
Liza Tuktamysheva 82.95
Sofia Akateva 83.59

I don't think we'll end with a tie like the men, but who knows.

Random comments: I love Liza's costume. She and Ksenia are the two oldest competitors and this is Tuk's 15th national. Muravieva was not considered a prospect as a novice and none of the top tier coaches was interested. This is how she ended up with Plushenko. Just goes to show that hard work pays off.

 

[rfisher]

Sinitsina
2A lovely extension
3F
3S
3Lo
LSp4
ChSq1
3Lz-3T
3Lz-2A
2F-2T
CCoSp4
StSq3
FCCoSp4

she's an exquisite skater, but not having the big elements hurts and the 2F will hurt more in this field. I wish she'd been as lucky as Gubanova in getting an offer from another country.

Score 136.63 total 211.52 3rd

 

[rfisher]

Petrosyan
4Lo fall and underrotated
4t-2A good
4T very good
2A
FCSp4
ChSq1
3Lz=1E-3S
3F
3F-3T
FCCoSp4
StSq4
CCpSp4

Excellent spins

Score 159.47 Total 235.72 and 1st

 

[rfisher]

Valieva (she's going to need her full arsenal to get on the podium)
Did I miss her 3A?
4T-2A
4T
3Lo
2A
FcSp4
StSq4
3Lz-3T
2F-1E-3S
3Lz
FCCpSP4
ChSq1

And if Akateva is on, she'll win.

Score 170.71 Total 247.32 1st needless to say.

 

[rfisher]

Muravieva
3A fall
3A-2T
3Lo
3S
CCoSp
3Lz-3T
3F sequence
I missed some jumps because the dog distracted me

Score 156 Total 235.96 2nd

 

[rfisher]

Tuk
3A-2A
3A
3Lz-3T
2F oh Liza
FCSp4
2A-E-3S
3Lz
LSp3
ChSq1
CCoSp4

I love her, but her speed and spins just aren't equivilant to the others. They just aren't. But, I think she still has a medal chance which will be just sweet.

Who cares what the score is. She'll medal.

 

[rfisher]

Akateva
3A fall
4T-2A
4 T
3Lo
FCSp4
3Lz-3T
3F-E-3S
3Lz
CCoSp4
ChSq1
FCCoSp4
I think her SP advantage will give her the win.

Score 249.74

Akateva
Valieva
Tuk

SP scores matter.

 

[Frau Muller]

Akatieva won, thank goodness.

When will any of these skaters be seen in an ISU event? Never ever.

 

[rfisher]

Women 3A/quad count
Group one
Gorbacheva: 4s (fall) 4S-combo (excellent) all other jumps clean except 2 foot on 3 flip. Score 142 (into first with 202 point total)
Group two
Zinina: 4T fall, 4T-2T good
Samodelkina 3A 2foot, 4S fall
Final group
Petrosyan: 4 Lo fall, 4T-2A. 4T
Valieva, 3A. 4T-2A. 4T
Muraieva, 3A fall, 3A-2T
Tuk 3A-2A. 3A
Akateva. 3A fall, 4t-2A. 4T

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

You're not wrong. Samarin looks like he can barely believe it though.

Zhenya is gonna win with his dumb hair, isn't he?

Not a chance internationally. Skating element to element. No choreo. A few elements very good. But others barely done. StSq level 2?

 

[caseyedwards]

Did she mean to just point at her hood or put it on?

 

[sk8nlizard]

The flu hit the pair teams. At least nobody was seriously injured.

Which pair teams had the flu?