2023-24 Canadian Men: News and Updates

[screech]

In other news Corey Circelli has confirmed on his Instragram account that he will now be representing Italy rather than Canada: https://www.instagram.com/p/C0gsrmGLcG_/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Does Corey have Italian citizenship?

 

[kwanfan1818]

The rules for singles in the ISU Constitution are in Rule 109:

2. Citizenship/Residence/Transfer Permit​

a) A Skater may compete only as a member of the ISU Member of a​

country of which he is a citizen or in which he has resided for at least​

one year.​

​

Since he lives and trains in Toronto at the Cricket Club, that would mean the former.

Plus, he'd have needed a release from Skate Canada to compete at Italian/non-international championships. He last competed a year ago internationally for Canada at Golden Spin, and the Men's FS was held on 10 December 2022. Without a Righini exception from the ISU Council, the earliest he could compete internationally for Italy is 10 December 2023, but that doesn't mean that Skate Canada has released him to skate internationally wrt international competition. (If I missed it, I apologize.)

Skate Canada threw shade at Soucisse/Firus -- he's the one with Irish citizenship -- and was trying to block their release. I'm not sure if Circelli was evaluated under Skate Canada's new or old release policy or what they're doing with him.

 

[marbri]

Good luck to Corey, how exciting. I am guessing increased funding from Italy with Olympics coming up?

First thing I read that makes me understand this switch. Hadn't even had the Olympics on my radar but that makes sense.

Interesting. It must be a situation where the weather issues only challenged those based in Toronto. PlaFern made it out of Detroit just fine. So did the IAM teams from Montreal. But, then again, GilPoir made it to Beijing just fine and they flew out of Toronto a few days ago...

So many factors to consider when planes are cancelled out of Toronto. Sadly have far too much experience with this

 

[fan]

corey's mom is italian - competed in barcelona '92 in swimming for italy - so he can get it if he doesn't have it already

 

[skatingguy]

Interesting. It must be a situation where the weather issues only challenged those based in Toronto. PlaFern made it out of Detroit just fine. So did the IAM teams from Montreal. But, then again, GilPoir made it to Beijing just fine and they flew out of Toronto a few days ago...

Toronto's weather has been fine - not sure where he got tripped up.

 

[Stephanie]

Toronto's weather has been fine - not sure where he got tripped up.

He probably had a transfer in Munich planned

 

[4rkidz]

corey's mom is italian - competed in barcelona '92 in swimming for italy - so he can get it if he doesn't have it already

Yeah my daughter’s former team mate competed in the last two Olympics for Italy, she found their support to be excellent. Another friend coaches there and money gets upped for the Olympic cycle. Especially being at home.

 

[honey]

corey's mom is italian - competed in barcelona '92 in swimming for italy - so he can get it if he doesn't have it already

He posted a photo on Instagram about a year ago with an Italian passport in his hand. It’s the last story in his CS CRO highlight.

 

[Colonel Green]

4CC: Men’s is the one discipline where Skate Canada left all three spots TBD.

 

[coppertop1]

Our men so chaotic. I don't blame Skate Canada for not deciding

 

[4rkidz]

Our men so chaotic. I don't blame Skate Canada for not deciding

yeah seems the logical thing to do - let us see what they do at nationals

 

[danafan]

Sadovsky uploaded a video about his recent travel woes.

I LOST MY SKATES ð

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[Sonata]

What happened with his skates sounds horrendous. I had no idea he traveled back to Munich just to get his and Tracy’s bag. Two torn luggage tags. Nice to hear that other skaters offered their skates. Loved how this video turned into a PSA with practical tips on travel.

And he didn’t even mention the weather woes that prevented him from participating in Golden Spin.

Good luck in 2024, Roman. You deserve it.

 

[victorskid]

What happened with his skates sounds horrendous. I had no idea he traveled back to Munich just to get his and Tracy’s bag. Two torn luggage tags. Nice to hear that other skaters offered their skates. Loved how this video turned into a PSA with practical tips on travel.

And he didn’t even mention the weather woes that prevented him from participating in Golden Spin.

Good luck in 2024, Roman. You deserve it.

Bev Smith has written about his woes: https://bevsmithwrites.com/roman-sadovsky-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up/

 

[4rkidz]

Bev Smith has written about his woes: https://bevsmithwrites.com/roman-sadovsky-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up/

I need to check my folder and make sure I am not on the same plane as him to Calgary from Toronto lol

 

[Sonata]

It’s a new year! He’s leaving all those vibes behind. He is well due for positive karma.

The weather story is even more ridiculous than the lost bags…..

 

[dramagrrl]

Yikes, looking at the results of the Jr. Men's comp at Canadians, it looks like our juniors are as chaotic as our current seniors.

 

[Winnipeg]

Sr men's SP was not a pretty sight................very disappointing

 

[skategal]

My friend’s son is skating novice this year.

His parents are under no illusion that the skating will lead anywhere like worlds or Olympics.

But he may as well keep at it considering the state of juniors and seniors.

He might have a chance who knows?

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Sr men's SP was not a pretty sight................very disappointing

I’m grateful I decided to sleep instead of watching.

 

[coppertop1]

Tbh, I think we're in trouble with our men. We will all certainly be down to one of spot, and we might well be stuck try to earn an Olympics berth at Nebelhorn, come 2025.

 

[Winnipeg]

So sad, but true.

 

[grimey]

Being an Uber of Canadian Men's skating since the 80's, it's really hard to watch. It is sad state of affairs now. Long gone are the days of our greats, and no one seems to have the mental toughness for competition like the Men of yesteryear. Not sure how or if we can ever get back there.

 

[coppertop1]

Being an Uber of Canadian Men's skating since the 80's, it's really hard to watch. It is sad state of affairs now. Long gone are the days of our greats, and no one seems to have the mental toughness for competition like the Men of yesteryear. Not sure how or if we can ever get back there.

How about next writing everyone off. You never know who's coming up

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Anyone have theories on what happened to the Canadian men’s field?

 

[coppertop1]

Anyone have theories on what happened to the Canadian men’s field?

Injuries and growth spurts

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Injuries and growth spurts

What happened to the pool of “way too short for hockey” guys that used to populate the field?

 

[Desperado]

Injuries and growth spurts

Injuries, yes, but Gogolev and Sadovsky have been tall for years now.

 

[tony]

Anyone have theories on what happened to the Canadian men’s field?

Injuries and growth spurts

Sadovsky, Orzel, Gogolev, and Chiu are wildly inconsistent as it is whether they are healthy or dealing with some kind of setback-- so if those four are leading the way, then obviously the rest of the field might look depleted. It didn't matter one bit last year when Stephen came in healthy and then bombed his short program to the nearly last place. Rakic, who sits in 2nd right now, is also very much inconsistent with an unorthodox jump technique that gets him into trouble.

There seems to be a lot of hypothetical 'what if..' stories with Canadian skaters and semi-excuses for their performances (Chouinard in the Olympics, Sadovsky in his team Olympics that supposedly through off the whole event for him, Sandhu, etc) and it's likely to continue with this curreny crop skating how they do from one event to the next.

2018 seemed to be the start of the last hurrah at least in this generation for Canadian singles' skaters.

 

[Colonel Green]

Injuries, yes, but Gogolev and Sadovsky have been tall for years now.

Being tall is a permanent hindrance.