2021 World Team Trophy Pairs SP & FS - No Time for Boikova, 'Cause We Are the Champions

[Immortelle]

So so good!!

 

[allezfred]

That was a masterclass

 

[Braulio]

They are the champions, sure they are and skated like that! Love them but not that much the Queen program

Hope better program for next season, I know Moskvina will come with some artistic challenge for them

 

[Karen-W]

I was about to face-palm Not-Mark again but he quickly corrected his "first season on the international scene" to say "second season".

 

[MacMadame]

OMG, Alexa and Brandon are second!

 

[Lilia A]

Simon, that's not how you say Shcherbakova's name

 

[Finnice]

Mishina/Galliamov are just fenomenal. I love the Moskvina style. She radiates and he is not bad to look, either.

 

[rfisher]

They are the champions, sure they are and skated like that! Love them but not that much the Queen program

Hope better program for next season, I know Moskvina will come with some artistic challenge for them

She's got a real dilemma picking 4 programs for her teams, either of which could be on the Olympic podium. Going to be very interesting to see what she decides on for both of them.

 

[Braulio]

She's got a real dilemma picking 4 programs for her teams, either of which could be on the Olympic podium. Going to be very interesting to see what she decides on for both of them.

It could work for any of them to try to make a version of their own in a style similar of Mishkutenok/Dmitriev

 

[skatingguy]

Simon, that's not how you say Shcherbakova's name

What? You mean it doesn't rhyme with Chewbacca?

 

[Lilia A]

Just as I suspected, the Canadians got an illegal element deduction. Too many turns on a lift? I thought so, but I'll have to re-watch.

 

[Karen-W]

What? You mean it does rhyme with Chewbacca?

Shurbaccava

 

[Jay42]

Simon, that's not how you say Shcherbakova's name

Bold of you to assume Simon knows how to pronounce any of the not-English names correctly

 

[Sylvia]

FS protocols: http://www.isuresults.com/results/season2021/wtt2021/data0305.pdf

Pl.	Name	Nation	TSS	TES	PCS	SS	TR	PE	CO	IN	Ded.	StN.	Team Point
1	Anastasia MISHINA Aleksandr GALLIAMOV	RUS	151.59	79.43	72.16	8.95	8.95	9.00	9.20	9.00	0.00	#6	12
2	Alexa KNIERIM Brandon FRAZIER	USA	133.63	68.83	64.80	8.20	7.90	8.00	8.20	8.20	0.00	#3	11
3	Riku MIURA Ryuichi KIHARA	JPN	130.83	66.11	64.72	8.20	7.85	8.15	8.20	8.05	0.00	#4	10
4	Nicole DELLA MONICA Matteo GUARISE	ITA	128.24	63.92	64.32	8.20	7.80	7.95	8.20	8.05	0.00	#5	9
5	Cleo HAMON Denys STREKALIN	FRA	104.81	51.73	54.08	6.85	6.60	6.65	7.00	6.70	1.00	#2	8
6	Lori-Ann MATTE Thierry FERLAND	CAN	101.83	51.67	52.16	6.65	6.35	6.35	6.70	6.55	2.00	#1	7

Team Standings after Pairs FS:

RUS 103
USA 94
JPN 88
FRA 64
ITA 62
CAN 49

If JPN places 3rd/4th (19 points) and USA 5th/6th (15 points) in the Ladies FS, then silver/bronze would be:
USA 109
JPN 107

 

[Braulio]

Matte & Ferland CAN FS 2021 WTT

Matte & Ferland CAN FS 2021 WTT

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Hamon & Strekalin FRA FS 2021 WTT

Hamon & Strekalin FRA FS 2021 WTT

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Knierim & Frazier USA FS 2021 WTT

Knierim & Frazier USA FS 2021 WTT

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Miura & Kihara JPN FS 2021 WTT

Miura & Kihara JPN FS 2021 WTT

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Della Monica & Guarise ITA FS 2021 WTT

Della Monica & Guarise ITA FS 2021 WTT

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Mishina & Galliamov RUS FS 2021 WTT

Mishina & Galliamov RUS FS 2021 WTT

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[mjb52]

Bold of you to assume Simon knows how to pronounce any of the not-English names correctly

How is he with the French? He sounds like he's trying to show off his fancy (I assume) British education on those but no idea if it is actually correct.

 

[4rkidz]

Kihara has improved so much it’s unreal.

They are so much better, their team in general will be strong for the Olympics. Both the dance and pairs so much stronger.

 

[allezfred]

How is he with the French?

Terrible, but Chris Howarth isn't any better. Until very recently they pronouned Guillaume as "Gwillam".

 

[mackiecat]

That Canadian flag is much.

And by "much", I also have to ask... Who makes the choice to pack a huge flag that takes up a lot of space in your luggage for a trans-continental trip?

on Instagram, Nam said it takes up very little room. The pole collapses and the flag fold up quite small. Less room than the moose head. Normally Keegan brings it ( it belongs to him) but a Nam brought it this time.

 

[Colonel Green]

They are so much better, their team in general will be strong for the Olympics. Both the dance and pairs so much stronger.

If you mean relative to the last Olympics, Kihara's new partnership is definitely far superior to his old one, but Komatsubara/Koleto are noticeably weaker than Muramoto/Reed were.

 

[yeslek]

Internationally, yes - the Knierims scored 140 & change in 2016 at 4 Continents when they finished 2nd - that was probably the last time an American pair scored higher internationally.

And this is a 133 from the first group without any reputation built up yet.

 

[yeslek]

I don’t only because I think they have smaller throws (though still good) and she seems to struggle a lot more with sbs jumps. However, they have more of a connection for sure and are currently more engaging! I should add, I don’t know how old M/K are so they might have more long term potential because they will probably be around longer than K/F, unless K/F decide to stick around til 2026.

Yeah it’s easier to land small throws and jumps. Once they start making the throws bigger teams start to lose consistency

 

[Colonel Green]

And this is a 133 from the first group without any reputation built up yet.

While Alexa and Brandon don't have a reputation as a pair yet, they're both well-known individually from their prior partnerships, so I don't think they suffer from the same kind of reputation gap that up-and-coming teams normally do.

 

[yeslek]

While Alexa and Brandon don't have a reputation as a pair yet, they're both well-known individually from their prior partnerships, so I don't think they suffer from the same kind of reputation gap that up-and-coming teams normally do.

It always hurts teams skating in the first groups. Even established teams.

 

[sk8nlizard]

While Alexa and Brandon don't have a reputation as a pair yet, they're both well-known individually from their prior partnerships, so I don't think they suffer from the same kind of reputation gap that up-and-coming teams normally do.

I don’t think it hurts them as bad as it would a new team with partners that don’t have reputation from prior partnerships, but I do think they would have seen higher marks if they were in the 2nd warmup group here. Someone who know the rules better than me, why do many teams get L3 on the twist, is it the girl’s split that’s not achieved? Also, why do K/F consistently get L2 on their death spiral in the long? How are levels counted for that?

 

[yeslek]

I don’t think it hurts them as bad as it would a new team with partners that don’t have reputation from prior partnerships, but I do think they would have seen higher marks if they were in the 2nd warmup group here. Someone who know the rules better than me, why do many teams get L3 on the twist, is it the girl’s split that’s not achieved? Also, why do K/F consistently get L2 on their death spiral in the long? How are levels counted for that?

It didn’t look like they got enough revolutions to me on the death spiral from when they got into position. Probably just something they need to work on together but put off since the point value isn’t as high as other elements.

 

[Colonel Green]

Someone who know the rules better than me, why do many teams get L3 on the twist, is it the girl’s split that’s not achieved?

Usually it's either the lack of a split or the man not lowering his arms.

 

[sk8nlizard]

It didn’t look like they got enough revolutions to me on the death spiral from when they got into position. Probably just something they need to work on together but put off since the point value isn’t as high as other elements.

So, is it 1 rev for L1, 2 revs L2, 3 Revs L3, 4 for L4 or is there more to it?

 

[Sylvia]

why do many teams get L3 on the twist, is it the girl’s split that’s not achieved?

Yes. K/F had 3Tw4 (7.71 points) in their Worlds FS because the tech. panel counted Alexa's split feature.

Also, why do K/F consistently get L2 on their death spiral in the long?

They had BoDs3 in their Worlds FS.

Link to ISU's Pair Skating Technical Panel Handbook 2020-21: https://isu.org/figure-skating/rule...0-tp-handbook-pair-skating-2020-21-final/file

 

[sk8nlizard]

Yes. K/F had 3Tw4 (7.71 points) in their Worlds FS because the tech. panel counted Alexa's split feature.

They had BoDs3 in their Worlds FS.

Link to ISU's Pair Skating Technical Panel Handbook 2020-21: https://isu.org/figure-skating/rule...0-tp-handbook-pair-skating-2020-21-final/file

Thanks for that! Makes a lot more sense now.