2021-22 ISU Grand Prix assignments announced

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Mana Kawabe (JPN) was added to SGP CAN today

How far down is Josefin to be considered?

OK I just read the post after yours and I saw the list.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Screw you, SCI. We needed Josefin added, not another Japanese skater!

Lmaoooo That’s so funny, look what I just posted above this one.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I'm not actually sure Josefin was even an option. The rules for replacement state:

Oh she’s 1000% an option should rostelecom need to fill a spot. LMAO. Heck Rostelecom would go after Angela Nikodinov if they could

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Alexia Paganini* - 192.88 (WD from SC)

Yeah what’s going on with her? She only had one spot to begin with. And she looked healthy last week…

 

[On My Own]

BTW, I know none of us know, but I'm asking anyway - if France doesn't let Russians enter, does that mean the spots will get reassigned, or we'll see a diminished field at France?

 

[Karen-W]

BTW, I know none of us know, but I'm asking anyway - if France doesn't let Russians enter, does that mean the spots will get reassigned, or we'll see a diminished field at France?

I would imagine that France will reassign but it is worrisome for the seeded Russian skaters like Shcherbakova. BoiKoz, StepBuk, and ZagGuer as well as any other skaters who currently train in Russia (Ryabova?) and don't have an EU-approved vaccination.

 

[On My Own]

I would imagine that France will reassign but it is worrisome for the seeded Russian skaters like Shcherbakova. BoiKoz, StepBuk, and ZagGuer as well as any other skaters who currently train in Russia (Ryabova?) and don't have an EU-approved vaccination.

I'm worried about the skaters - but I'm just fed up of Russia not sending whatever evidence they were supposed to about their vaccine at this point. I do hope the skaters get some sort of benefit of the doubt, but I don't know how or where.

Reassigning, if it happens, might at least give Jin a chance, if he really got screwed over.

Also, I think I read somewhere that some Russians weren't getting visas for Skate America. Wonder what will come of that.

 

[Sylvia]

Sept. 27th article:

Российским фигуристам придется получать визы США за границей

Российские фигуристы должны вскоре получить визы США для участия в этапе Гран-при, однако сделать это придется за пределами России, сообщил РИА Новости... РИА Новости Спорт, 27.09.2021

rsport.ria.ru

Russian figure skaters should soon receive US visas to participate in the Grand Prix stage, but this will have to be done outside Russia, President of the Russian Figure Skating Federation (FFKKR) Alexander Gorshkov told RIA Novosti.
The first stage of the Grand Prix will take place on October 22-24 in the American Las Vegas. At the moment, it is known that sports couples Alina Pepeleva / Roman Pleshkov, Evgenia Tarasova / Vladimir Morozov have US visas, and single athletes Alexandra Trusova and Ksenia Sinitsina.

Still need U.S. visas? Usacheva, Danielian, Samsonov, Boikova/Kozlovskii, Morozov (does she still have a U.S. passport?)/Bagin, Zagorski/Guerreiro.

 

[Karen-W]

Sept. 27th article:

Российским фигуристам придется получать визы США за границей

Российские фигуристы должны вскоре получить визы США для участия в этапе Гран-при, однако сделать это придется за пределами России, сообщил РИА Новости... РИА Новости Спорт, 27.09.2021

rsport.ria.ru

Still need U.S. visas? Usacheva, Danielian, Samsonov, Boikova/Kozlovskii, Morozov (does she still have a U.S. passport?)/Bagin, Zagorski/Guerreiro.

I think it's been verified that Zagorski/Guerreiro are able to travel on their British & Australian passports to enter the US so there isn't a concern about them being able to enter the US for SkAm.

 

[On My Own]

Wouldn't it just be too late to go out to a different country's embassy for the visa? Or am I underestimating the candies you get if you're an athlete lol.

 

[kwanfan1818]

I think it's been verified that Zagorski/Guerreiro are able to travel on their British & Australian passports to enter the US so there isn't a concern about them being able to enter the US for SkAm.

Which really confuses me, unless there's been a policy change, because Misha Ge presumably had Chinese (dad) and Russian (mom) passports, yet the rules at the time were that when he checked into his ISU events, he had to use the passport he was competing under, with a valid visa in that passport. Getting those visas for an Uzbeki passport was a part-time job for him, and he missed multiple events where he couldn't get the (pricey) visa in time, including events where he didn't even need a visa using one of his other passports.

 

[Vagabond]

Which really confuses me, unless there's been a policy change, because Misha Ge presumably had Chinese (dad) and Russian (mom) passports, yet the rules at the time were that when he checked into his ISU events, he had to use the passport he was competing under, with a valid visa in that passport. Getting those visas for an Uzbeki passport was a part-time job for him, and he missed multiple events where he couldn't get the (pricey) visa in time, including events where he didn't even need a visa using one of his other passports.

The exigencies of you-know-what may have made the ISU change its mind, at least for the time being.

 

[Karen-W]

Which really confuses me, unless there's been a policy change, because Misha Ge presumably had Chinese (dad) and Russian (mom) passports, yet the rules at the time were that when he checked into his ISU events, he had to use the passport he was competing under, with a valid visa in that passport. Getting those visas for an Uzbeki passport was a part-time job for him, and he missed multiple events where he couldn't get the (pricey) visa in time, including events where he didn't even need a visa using one of his other passports.

He had to use the Uzbeki passport to check in at the ISU event but he didn't have to use it to travel to the country in question. I think the issue was getting visas using ANY of those passports to some countries takes more time than say someone traveling on a Schengen or an Australian passport to North America or EU nations.

 

[kwanfan1818]

He had to use the Uzbeki passport to check in at the ISU event but he didn't have to use it to travel to the country in question. I think the issue was getting visas using ANY of those passports to some countries takes more time than say someone traveling on a Schengen or an Australian passport to North America or EU nations.

He did, but then when he checked into the event, he had to show that he had a valid visa in the passport he showed to compete. There was one event where he couldn't attend, even though he didn't need a visa with a Chinese or Russian passport -- I can't remember which -- but he did with an Uzbeki passport. I wondered at the time why he couldn't just use the other passport, and the answer was that the ISU required him to show a visa in his Uzbeki passport.

 

[PRlady]

I don’t think Brits or Aussies need visas for tourist visits to the US?

 

[skatingguy]

I don’t think Brits or Aussies need visas for tourist visits to the US?

They seem to need something called an ESTA & a valid passport. I'm not sure if things are complicated by the fact that they could earn money while in the US.

 

[seabm7]

I think it's been verified that Zagorski/Guerreiro are able to travel on their British & Australian passports to enter the US so there isn't a concern about them being able to enter the US for SkAm.

Skate America awards monetary benefits to participants. My understanding is that in such a case, tourist visa does not work.

 

[taz'smum]

Skate America awards monetary benefits to participants. My understanding is that in such a case, tourist visa does not work.

Tiff and Jon have done Skate America twice before with just an ESTA to enter the USA using their non-Russian passports. They have never needed a US visa in their Russian passports. They have always received their prize money.

 

[kwanfan1818]

Prize money also goes to the Feds, not the skaters, and the Feds are responsible for payouts to the athletes, technically at least 90% less any taxes the Fed is required to withhold based on that Fed's country's tax law. (But that's not how it works after some Feds withhold payback for training, equipment, costumes, housing, etc.)

 

[Vagabond]

They seem to need something called an ESTA & a valid passport.

Everyone needs an @esta, not just Brits and Aussies.

 

[skatingguy]

Everyone needs an @esta, not just Brits and Aussies.

Not Canadians, which is why I'm not familiar with it.

 

[MacMadame]

Not Canadians, which is why I'm not familiar with it.

LEIS! Canadians definitely need @esta. I wonder what happened to her.

 

[Vagabond]

LEIS! Canadians definitely need @esta. I wonder what happened to her.

She was a heavy smoker. And fictional. So there are two possibilities.

 

[seabm7]

Tiff and Jon have done Skate America twice before with just an ESTA to enter the USA using their non-Russian passports. They have never needed a US visa in their Russian passports. They have always received their prize money.

This is a good news!

 

[skatingguy]

LEIS! Canadians definitely need @esta. I wonder what happened to her.

Leis are more of a Hawaiian thing than a Canadian thing.

 

[Vagabond]

Leis are more of a Hawaiian thing than a Canadian thing.

More Russian than Hawaiian, actually.

https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/i-have-ritourned-to-tell-you-ussova-s-baby-is-a-lei.74823/

 

[VGThuy]

Nothing to add other than he was also a shady AF technical specialist.

Was he really? I don't remember his heyday as a technical specialist too much because honestly, ice dance from 2007-2011 and then 12-14 was such a blur to me.

 

[skatingguy]

More Russian than Hawaiian, actually.

https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/i-have-ritourned-to-tell-you-ussova-s-baby-is-a-lei.74823/

I give up.

 

[MacMadame]

I give up.

Uh oh. The Black Mark of Tarasova is gonna be on you now!

 

[haribobo]

SB lists for alternates (separated top 10 with ---, if assigned 1 spot, shown as (1))

MEN
Boyang Jin 268 (1)
Andrei Mozalev 245 (1)
Sota Yamamoto 240 (1)
Petr Gumennik 232 (1)
Paul Fentz 230 (1)
Lukas Britschgi 225.55
Maxim Naumov 225.10 (1)
Aleksandr Selevko 222
Ivan Shmuratko 221.44
Konstantin Milyukov 221.33
---------------
Vladimir Litvintsev 221.09
Brendan Kerry 220
Alexei Bychenko 219.70
Egor Murashov 219.39 (switched countries to SUI, status?)
Sihyeong Lee 218.31
Nikolaj Majorov 218.07
Maurizio Zandron 217.65
Andrew Torgashev 217.54
He Zhang 217.42 (status?)
Koshiro Shimada 216
Romain Ponsart 215 (1)

PAIRS
Calalang/Johnson 196 (1)
Tang/Yang 182 (provincial team, what does this mean?)
Ghilardi/Ambrosini 162 (1)
Chtchetinina/Magyar 158
Zhuk/Bidar 157
Metelkina/Parkman 156
Keriven/Pierre 153 (1)
Matte/Ferland 152.53 (1)
Wang/Huang 152.10 (1)
Jones/Boyadji 147 (1)
--------------
Lukashevich/Stepanov 145
Petranovic/Souza Kordeiru 144
Conti/Macii 136 (1)
Danilova/Tsiba 135

DANCE
Reed/Ambrulevicius 180 (1)
Nazarova/Nikitin 179 (1)
Shevchenko/Eremenko (status?) 178
Kazakova/Reviya 176
Shanaeva/Naryzhnyy 175 (1)
JVR/Steffan 171.87 (1)
Wagret/Souquet-Basiege 171.31
Muller/Dieck 169.59 (1)
Skoptcova/Aleshin 169.24 (1)
Ushakova/Nekrasov 169.18 (status?)
--------
Orihara/Pirinen 166
Davis/Smolkin 165 (1)
Sales/Wamsteeker 164 (1)
Taschlerova/Taschler 163.62
Min/Eaton 163.42 (status?)
Chen/Sun 162.91 (1)
Demougeot/Le Mercier 162.70
Harris/Chan 161