2025-26 Program Music and Choreographers

swissskate said:
According to French sport newspaper L’Equipe Fournier-Beaudry & Cizeron need to change the music of their RD, an american judge has mentioned that one of the music piece is from 1989…That’s the reason why they’re not at Nebelhorn this week.
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Yes, Personal Jesus came out as a single in 1989, so, unfortunately, they'll have to use another Depeche Mode piece if they still want to use their music.
 
Bigbird said:
The Hitchcock one was fabulous. But hey, I'm enjoying this light banter. Any guesses to their RD?
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“All-star” by Smashmouth is my guess.

I’m interested to see the new “Vincent” but agree with others that it may feel old school.

On the other hand, I often feel like the top 3 ice dance teams (C/B, G&P, G/F) could skate to “Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star,” “The Wheels on the Bus,” and “Mary Had a Little Lamb” respectively and as long as they stayed upright they would get +4 GOE and land on the podium. :lol:
 
skategal said:
On the other hand, I often feel like the top 3 ice dance teams (C/B, G&P, G/F) could skate to “Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star,” “The Wheels on the Bus,” and “Mary Had a Little Lamb” respectively and as long as they stayed upright they would get +4 GOE and land on the podium. :lol:
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G&P could probably rock such a program. :D
 
TanithandBenFan said:
Personal Jesus was released in 1989. I had looked up the Violator songs when we had the 80s RD because I wanted someone to skate to them, but they were all on the borderline of 80s and 90s.
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Let the record show I pointed this out in July when the other team announced it. 😉 Too bad too sad for Lolo and Gui….
 
Yeah I wondered what the feedback to their Depeche Mode program would be since it technically straddles 80s/90s depending on whether you're going by the song or the album. In any case, it really doesn't capture the spirit of what the ISU was going for anyway.

Regarding G/P - I forgot they even had this Vincent program although I'm not an ice dance uber so maybe it left a bigger impression for fans. If they had to rehash something I would have gone with Both Sides Now. I don't know what their post Olympic plans are but that program feels especially poignant for a team's final season, if this were to be theirs.

Suspect they took another concept down a long road only to find that it wasn't gelling and then rooted around in the back of their closet. People get spooked by the Olympics - I always think of Karen Chen cycling through a couple of half baked programs only to go back to Jalousie and then Ashley abruptly flip flopping between La La Land and MR.
 
zigzig said:
Regarding G/P - I forgot they even had this Vincent program although I'm not an ice dance uber so maybe it left a bigger impression for fans. If they had to rehash something I would have gone with Both Sides Now. I don't know what their post Olympic plans are but that program feels especially poignant for a team's final season, if this were to be theirs.

Suspect they took another concept down a long road only to find that it wasn't gelling and then rooted around in the back of their closet. People get spooked by the Olympics - I always think of Karen Chen cycling through a couple of half baked programs only to go back to Jalousie and then Ashley abruptly flip flopping between La La Land and MR.
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The Vincent program was lightning in a bottle, and they spent a couple of years afterwards trying and signally failing to recapture its magic. I'm not sure whether going back to it - reimagined or otherwise - speaks of a desire to revisit something important to them as a way of signing off, or one last desperate grasp after the unattainable. I hope the former.
 
Annnnnd... Alysa is ditching her new SP.

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刘美贤 Alysa Liu on Instagram: "As many of you know, I recently debuted a new short program for the ‘25-‘26 season. However, in light of recent news, my team & I are confidently pursing a different direction that aligns with my values & just my overall

1,865 likes, 46 comments - alysaxliu on September 24, 2025: "As many of you know, I recently debuted a new short program for the ‘25-‘26 season. However, in light of recent news, my team & I are confidently pursing a different direction that aligns with my values & just my overall ethos. I’m...
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No replacement announced yet, sounds like we'll see Promise on the GP and something different for Nats/the Olympics.
 
Karen-W said:
Annnnnd... Alysa is ditching her new SP.

www.instagram.com

刘美贤 Alysa Liu on Instagram: "As many of you know, I recently debuted a new short program for the ‘25-‘26 season. However, in light of recent news, my team & I are confidently pursing a different direction that aligns with my values & just my overall

1,865 likes, 46 comments - alysaxliu on September 24, 2025: "As many of you know, I recently debuted a new short program for the ‘25-‘26 season. However, in light of recent news, my team & I are confidently pursing a different direction that aligns with my values & just my overall ethos. I’m...
www.instagram.com www.instagram.com

No replacement announced yet, sounds like we'll see Promise on the GP and something different for Nats/the Olympics.
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As expected
 
swissskate said:
According to French sport newspaper L’Equipe Fournier-Beaudry & Cizeron need to change the music of their RD, an american judge has mentioned that one of the music piece is from 1989…That’s the reason why they’re not at Nebelhorn this week.
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What's surprising to me is that it says they will change the music and the direction of the program. 4/5 elements in their original RD are done while Enjoy The Silence is playing in the first ~2:30 minutes of the program, Personal Jesus is less than half a minute of the RD right at the end, why not change the music that is used for the choreo steps and be done with it (I'd say Depeche Mode have enough iconic 90s songs)?
 
angi said:
What's surprising to me is that it says they will change the music and the direction of the program. 4/5 elements in their original RD are done while Enjoy The Silence is playing in the first ~2:30 minutes of the program, Personal Jesus is less than half a minute of the RD right at the end, why not change the music that is used for the choreo steps and be done with it (I'd say Depeche Mode have enough iconic 90s songs)?
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Perhaps they finally realized that voguing to Enjoy the Silence made no sense? ;)
 
This whole story about the American judge telling FBCiz they could get a music violation for "Personal Jesus" isn't quite adding up to me.

1) I saw a rumor floating around FSTW a few weeks ago, after French Masters, that they were changing their RD - potentially to Madonna.

2) When & why have they received feedback from an AMERICAN judge? Not at French Masters. Ritter/Brykalov, the other IAM team using "Personal Jesus", have competed at Lake Placid and Skate to Milano. RitBry didn't get a music violation from a single judge at LPIDI. They DID get one at Skate to Milano, but the only American on any of the panels was Judy Blumberg, who was a tech specialist in Beijing.

I'm not saying they're lying, but it seems rather fishy to me that this is all being blamed on some anonymous American judge/official. I suppose anything is possible. Reitan/Majorov ALSO had a music violation flagged at Skate to Milano (which makes no sense since they've got one of the many Ricky Martin RDs we're being subjected to this season).

I'm more inclined to think they decided to change the RD after French Masters and thought they'd have enough time to work it out & be ready for Nebelhorn but realized over the weekend that they weren't actually ready and needed more time ahead of GPdF.
 
Karen-W said:
2) When & why have they received feedback from an AMERICAN judge? Not at French Masters. Ritter/Brykalov, the other IAM team using "Personal Jesus", have competed at Lake Placid and Skate to Milano. RitBry didn't get a music violation from a single judge at LPIDI. They DID get one at Skate to Milano, but the only American on any of the panels was Judy Blumberg, who was a tech specialist in Beijing.
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The Equipe article says an US judge said "in front of other 35 international judges" that the music should be considered illegal because it is from 1989.
I would guess it was some other judges present reporting it to them/IAM rather than the US judge directly to them.
As for an occasion with 36 judges present...I can only think about an overcrowded ISU judges' seminar. I think the last one was in Sheffield during Bolero Cup.
 
Andrea82 said:
The Equipe article says an US judge said "in front of other 35 international judges" that the music should be considered illegal because it is from 1989.
I would guess it was some other judges present reporting it to them/IAM rather than the US judge directly to them.
As for an occasion with 36 judges present...I can only think about an overcrowded ISU judges' seminar. I think the last one was in Sheffield during Bolero Cup.
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Ahhh, that does make sense! And it's good that a judge was willing to call it out as they're not wrong.
 
However the ruling about Personal Jesus not being eligible came about, it does indicate one of the many (many!) issues with the "decades" RDs. Music doesn't magically change when the clock strikes midnight on New Year's Eve on a year ending in 9. There are plenty of songs people associated with the 60s that actually came out in 1970/71 for example.
 
@Former Lurve Goddess This is what I hate about the teams using Madonna. Maybe I'm too young, but when I think Madonna I think the '80s. Even Vogue is much more '80s than '90s despite being released 3 whopping months into 1990. How many Madonnas did we see for the 1980s RD? And now how many for the 90s?

The '90s is famous for a bunch of different musical styles: Grunge, Ska, Punk, Garage Rock, Hip Hop, R&B, Eurodance, boy/girl bands (probably the most used), NuMetal, etc. It's also famous for launching careers of plenty of pop artists we would see into the '00s like Cristina Aguilera, Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Celine Dion, Shania Twain, and Mariah Carey. Why rehash Madonna when there's so much good there?

In some ways the music and musical styles is one of THE enduring defining legacies of the '90s.

I think they need to have some more guidance as far as what music they can use. A strict release year limit for the decade, genre limits to the iconic styles of that era (Maybe for the '90s grunge/punk, R&B/Hip Hop, and dance pop music), and maybe even ISU music screening. Heck, maybe they need an official ISU Pintrest inspo board.
 
Willin said:
@Former Lurve Goddess This is what I hate about the teams using Madonna. Maybe I'm too young, but when I think Madonna I think the '80s. Even Vogue is much more '80s than '90s despite being released 3 whopping months into 1990. How many Madonnas did we see for the 1980s RD? And now how many for the 90s?

The '90s is famous for a bunch of different musical styles: Grunge, Ska, Punk, Garage Rock, Hip Hop, R&B, Eurodance, boy/girl bands (probably the most used), NuMetal, etc. It's also famous for launching careers of plenty of pop artists we would see into the '00s like Cristina Aguilera, Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Celine Dion, Shania Twain, and Mariah Carey. Why rehash Madonna when there's so much good there?

In some ways the music and musical styles is one of THE enduring defining legacies of the '90s.

I think they need to have some more guidance as far as what music they can use. A strict release year limit for the decade, genre limits to the iconic styles of that era (Maybe for the '90s grunge/punk, R&B/Hip Hop, and dance pop music), and maybe even ISU music screening. Heck, maybe they need an official ISU Pintrest inspo board.
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In the case of Madonna, she may have been a breakout star in the mid to the late 80s but she was HUGE in the early 90s. Her 1990 Blonde Ambition tour was one of the most important tours of that year. The Truth or Dare documentary came out in 1991 and her Erotica album and her SEX book both came out in 1992. But yes, 1990s had a massive array of musical styles and genres so a "1990s" RD theme is way too vague a concept.
 
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