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[MacMadame]

Modern Warhorse - Einaudi, Muse, Woodkid, Lara Fabien, Lana del Rey, Michael Buble

Thanks.

Does "boot covers" also include tights half over boots?

I was debating that. I'm leaning toward thinking that they should be two separate categories.

 

[Karen-W]

Maybe two other music categories -

1) Music Tribute Program - skater uses the same music as memorable program from the last decade - ie "To Build A Home", "In This Shirt", "Rain In Your Black Eyes", "Wicked Game"

2) Pop Music Superstar - ie Elvis, Michael Jackson, the Beatles, ABBA, Celine Dion, Billie Eilish, etc

 

[MacMadame]

Maybe two other music categories -

1) Music Tribute Program - skater uses the same music as memorable program from the last decade - ie "To Build A Home", "In This Shirt", "Rain In Your Black Eyes", "Wicked Game"

I like this but it could be controversial as to what counts and what doesn't. Should we say someone in the PBP has to say "Whenever I hear this music, I think of X program" or something similar for it to count?

2) Pop Music Superstar - ie Elvis, Michael Jackson, the Beatles, ABBA, Celine Dion, Billie Eilish, etc

 

[Karen-W]

I like this but it could be controversial as to what counts and what doesn't. Should we say someone in the PBP has to say "Whenever I hear this music, I think of X program" or something similar for it to count?

Well, my thought process was that the music needs to specifically be something that has become iconic for a certain skater/team within the past decade that isn't a classical, modern or musical warhorse and we all kind of just groan because no skater is ever going to live up to the original program but they have it on their "skating music bucket list" for absolutely no other reason than PapCiz, Nathan, Kevin, Savchenko/Massot, Sui/Han using the music so well. We know which pieces were turned into signature programs and are always going to be associated with that skater/team first and foremost.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

towels with your name on it in the kiss and cry

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Spoken word

 

[MacMadame]

Well, my thought process was that the music needs to specifically be something that has become iconic for a certain skater/team within the past decade that isn't a classical, modern or musical warhorse and we all kind of just groan because no skater is ever going to live up to the original program but they have it on their "skating music bucket list" for absolutely no other reason than PapCiz, Nathan, Kevin, Savchenko/Massot, Sui/Han using the music so well. We know which pieces were turned into signature programs and are always going to be associated with that skater/team first and foremost.

And it happened today already so that's good.

 

[MacMadame]

Here is my current list. Please nominate ones to ax or combine so we can get down to 45-50. Also, comment/kibitz/whatever.

Suggestion	Comments	Discipline
“Artistic” camerawork	Weird angles, loses skater, focus on 1 body part, too far away	All
“Euler” step out	As determined by FSU	Singles
1st 3X/quad	3X for women only	Singles
2nd half bonus	Mentioned by commentator	All but Dance, FS mostly
Bleeding knee in KnC		All
Cedric Tour	Either arranged by or actually by	All
coach & Skater(s) are frosty	In the KnC	All
coach cam	When they show the coach miming or reacting the performance	All
costume change		All
costumes don’t match at all	Either each other or the music; slight color differences don’t count	All
could be skating to anything	From an FSUer	All
cutouts in costume		All
Dune	Just for this season	All?
dying on ice		All?
elegant pop		All but Dance
emo/ sad girl cover	It doesn’t have to literally be a girl singing to be a sad girl cover	All
face touching		All
fall on non-element		All
fist pump	after landing a jump or seeing scores	All
Gymnastics on ice	All the things with legs above the head	All
hairography/ armography		All
Heart hands		All
illusion/tights weird color	Like not matching skin tone or rest of the costume	All
Invalid element		All
jarring music cuts	People complaining about the edits in the PBP	All
knee slides		All
Korean hair bling	Doesn’t have to be a Korean skater but it has to be super-blingy; hairbands count	All but Mens
majority in same color	In the same flight	All
molest the judges	Getting in their space during the program	All but especially the FD
Nails/hair match costume	Anything that requires a commitment beyond makeup and jewelry	All
no attempt at unison on jump		Pairs only
nude gloves		All
O face	Can be in any discipline	All
only one sleeve		All but usually not Mens
Shoutouts/photos in Kiss n Cry	Hi Mom!	All
singing/ lip-synching	To skater’s program	All
smiling to sad music	Sad/dreary/etc	All
Superstar artist	MJ, ABBA, Louis Prima, etc	All
tan boots	(Any color except white for women or black for men)	All but usually not Mens
Tights over boots/ boot covers		All
touch the boards		All
Tribute program	i.e., skating to Disturb’s SoS or Red Violin - as determined by FSU	All
very literal costume		All
voiceovers		All
warhorse - Classical music	Carmen, Nessa Dorum, Swan Lake	All
warhorse - modern music	Einaudi, Muse, Woodkid, Zimmer. Stuff that sounds Classical but isn’t	All
warhorse - other	For things like Take 5, etc. If it doesn’t fit in the others, it goes here.	All
warhorse from Movie	Umbrellas, Lion King, etc. Has to be from the soundtrack.	All
warhorse from Musical	POTO, Les Mis, Moulin Rouge, etc. Has to be from the cast album	All
whickety-whack		All
	Pink Ladies in Center Square	All

 

[Karen-W]

Costume Change - we've had maybe 2 of those this entire season, I think (Kurakova & Economides); and Cedric Tour (seems too specific).

 

[Kateri]

Spin fail
Cartwheel fail
Run into the boards (as opposed to touching on purpose)
Belly flop
Lift fail

... let's get bingo points out of disaster!

(No points if someone's actually badly injured, only funny ones.)

 

[Karen-W]

Spin fail
Cartwheel fail
Run into the boards (as opposed to touching on purpose)
Belly flop
Lift fail

... let's get bingo points out of disaster!

(No points if someone's actually badly injured, only funny ones.)

LOL - @MacMadame's trying to eliminate choices not add them - how about "element fail"?

 

[Theatregirl1122]

LOL - @MacMadame's trying to eliminate choices not add them - how about "element fail"?

Non-jump element fail?

 

[Karen-W]

Non-jump element fail?

Nah - we already have fall on a non-element.

Though I do think that "element fail" could be discipline specific seeing as we already have "invalid element" on the list.

Singles - belly flop/slide into boards on jump
Pairs - aborted lift
Dance - botched twizzles

 

[Theatregirl1122]

Perhaps what we’re looking for is aborted element?

 

[MacMadame]

I think (Kurakova & Economides); and Cedric Tour (seems too specific).

Cedric Tour comes up multiple times in some disciplines and at least once in every discipline. I find it weird so that's why I noticed.

 

[Kateri]

vote to remove this:

2nd half bonus

Mentioned by commentator

because we've eliminated other commentator ones, so might as well make the whole list usable by folks watching a no-commentary stream?

 

[leilaofpaper]

I propose merging all the warhorse categories back into one.

 

[Kateri]

Bleeding knee in KnC		All

Should we drop this one from the men's board? I'm not sure I've ever seen it happen through pants. (Unless John Kerr comes back)

 

[emason]

Pretentious explanation of the choreographer’s ‘vision’, please.

 

[MacMadame]

vote to remove this:

2nd half bonus

Mentioned by commentator

because we've eliminated other commentator ones, so might as well make the whole list usable by folks watching a no-commentary stream?

Is there a non-commentator stream? Because I sure like those and would want to check it out.

I propose merging all the warhorse categories back into one.

We did that for the Pairs FS today. I wasn't there so can anyone say how it worked? Feedback please!

 

[Karen-W]

Is there a non-commentator stream? Because I sure like those and would want to check it out.

No, there's not.

We did that for the Pairs FS today. I wasn't there so can anyone say how it worked? Feedback please!

I think it worked pretty well. The only question we had was for ConMac's "Papa Can You Hear Me?" sung by Barbra Streisand. Some people thought it would qualify as Superstar but then I pointed out that "Yentl" was a Musical and then someone else pointed out it was never a Broadway musical only ever a Movie, so we determined the correct category was Movie Warhorse, lol - which we'd already filled because Les Kovs had already skated their 007 program, lol.

 

[MacMadame]

No, there's not.

I think it worked pretty well. The only question we had was for ConMac's "Papa Can You Hear Me?" sung by Barbra Streisand. Some people thought it would qualify as Superstar but then I pointed out that "Yentl" was a Musical and then someone else pointed out it was never a Broadway musical only ever a Movie, so we determined the correct category was Movie Warhorse, lol - which we'd already filled because Les Kovs had already skated their 007 program, lol.

Oh, the trick is: pick the category you haven't picked yet

But I'm glad there was less arguing.

 

[Karen-W]

Oh, the trick is: pick the category you haven't picked yet

But I'm glad there was less arguing.

Oh, the other argument was about cutouts. @Theatregirl1122 maintains that sheer panels that match the color of the costume - black sheer with a black shirt or white sheer with a white dress are cutouts. I thought we'd established on Friday that cutouts are random sections where the skin/skin tone is exposed. So, we may need a bit of clarification on that.

 

[canbelto]

We definitely need "borrowed another person's legs" for the times when tight colors totally mismatch the actual skin tone.

 

[Karen-W]

We definitely need "borrowed another person's legs" for the times when tight colors totally mismatch the actual skin tone.

We have that -

illusion/tights weird color

Like not matching skin tone or rest of the costume

All

 

[canbelto]

Ok then "puke face before program even begins."

 

[MacMadame]

Ok then "puke face before program even begins."

Good one!

And yes, if the cutouts in the leotard part of the costume have another piece of fabric over them, are they really cutouts? I was thinking of cutouts with flesh showing because it's disconcerting to have part of the costume completely missing.

 

[Theatregirl1122]

Good one!

And yes, if the cutouts in the leotard part of the costume have another piece of fabric over them, are they really cutouts? I was thinking of cutouts with flesh showing because it's disconcerting to have part of the costume completely missing.

When I mentioned cutouts when we first discussed this, I was referring to all cutouts, not just ones that have flesh showing. The annoying trend includes ones that have nude illusion fabric and ones that have slightly tinted mesh. The mesh being slightly white or slightly black doesn’t change that there is very literally a cut out of the body of the costume. If it was covered with something opaque, that would be different.

 

[MacMadame]

When I mentioned cutouts when we first discussed this, I was referring to all cutouts, not just ones that have flesh showing. The annoying trend includes ones that have nude illusion fabric and ones that have slightly tinted mesh. The mesh being slightly white or slightly black doesn’t change that there is very literally a cut out of the body of the costume. If it was covered with something opaque, that would be different.

I understand what you were referring to.

When we first added the category, we were talking about literally missing pieces from costumes. It's a BINGO category. That has to be narrowed down to a single word or a small phrase or you can't read it in the square. It's not a scientific term. ?

 

[Theatregirl1122]

I understand what you were referring to.

When we first added the category, we were talking about literally missing pieces from costumes. It's a BINGO category. That has to be narrowed down to a single word or a small phrase or you can't read it in the square. It's not a scientific term. ?

Okay, and my contention is that the thing I suggested be on the bingo card was cutouts. Not flesh-colored-cutouts. Because that’s not the trend. I don’t know what it has to do with anything that the box doesn’t fit a whole phrase. No one asked for that. I disagree with the spirit of your opinion.