2024 US Nats Men FS: Succession would be The Impossible Dream but Silver is Up For Grabs

[caseyedwards]

Jason needs to retire now.

Or... at least be judged on what he's actually putting on the ice. Max should be going to worlds, not Jason. Jason is no longer a safeguard for USFS and may even be a liability. Max -- and Camden -- are on an upswing and are the ones that should be given more opportunities.

I'm still mad!

I don’t know what they are trying to say/accomplish with the brown
ridiculousness!!! Get to a point in your career where jumps are meaningless and judges just love you?

 

[YourBorneo]

Where are you seeing the detail by judge? I can only find the rolled up scoring.

2024 Prevagen U.S. Figure Skating Championships

Event Results for 2024 Prevagen U.S. Figure Skating Championships

ijs.usfigureskating.org

 

[Karen-W]

Free Skate & Final Results - https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2024/33688/SEGM021.html

1	17	Ilia Malinin, Washington FSC	1	108.57	1	185.78	294.35
2	15	Jason Brown, Skokie Valley SC	3	89.02	2	175.48	264.50
3	13	Camden Pulkinen, SC of New York	5	87.90	3	174.43	262.33
4	16	Maxim Naumov, SC of Boston	2	89.72	4	170.78	260.50
5	14	Andrew Torgashev, Panthers FSC	4	88.02	7	151.19	239.21
6	9	Jimmy Ma, SC of Boston	9	76.54	6	162.03	238.57
7	6	Yaroslav Paniot, All Year FSC	12	70.30	5	162.87	233.17
8	12	Tomoki Hiwatashi, DuPage FSC	6	81.31	9	149.49	230.80
9	10	Daniel Martynov, Great Lakes FSC	8	77.53	8	149.52	227.05
10	11	Goku Endo, Los Angeles FSC	7	80.11	10	142.06	222.17
11	7	Kai Kovar, Wasatch FSC	11	71.98	12	138.75	210.73
12	4	Daniel Samohin, SC of Boston	14	63.97	11	138.99	202.96
13	8	Liam Kapeikis, Wenatchee FSC	10	72.44	15	120.25	192.69
14	1	Michael Xie, SC of San Francisco	17	60.30	13	124.21	184.51
15	2	Samuel Mindra, Portland ISC	16	60.40	14	120.53	180.93
16	3	Will Annis, SC of Boston	15	63.17	16	112.93	176.10
17	5	Joseph Klein, Skokie Valley SC	13	68.33	17	103.68	172.01
WD		Lucas Broussard, Kraken Skating Academy

 

[peibeck]

Oh, Jason, this extended bows and hopping around like you really deserve the silver is p*ssing me off.

 

[overedge]

OMG I had to leave for a music lesson, and figured I would come back to the unquestioned coronation of the QuadGod(TM) and Jason comfortably in second place. What the hell?!?!?

 

[Wyliefan]

If they wanted Jason at Worlds that badly, they could have given him 4th and gone with body of work. Even if he didn't have a BOW this season, they could have pointed to his previous one. It's been done.

 

[skatingguy]

He had no such excuse last season when 4CC started nine days later and was in the US.

No, he just didn't want to go, and he has a better opportunity to gain something from Art on Ice than from Four Continents. I wish he was going, and that the event had the same depth as Europeans because I'll be watching it in the middle of the night, but it doesn't make sense for Malinin to go.

 

[Wyliefan]

at Camden fixing Ilia's medal ribbon. Big brother energy.

 

[Karen-W]

Oh, Jason, this extended bows and hopping around like you really deserve the silver is p*ssing me off.

Never let it be said that the man lacks chutzpah. I just wish the USFS would give him a pass on the Worlds assignment.

 

[VALuvsMKwan]

Oh, Jason, this extended bows and hopping around like you really deserve the silver is p*ssing me off.

Latter-day Shepherd Clark?

 

[YourBorneo]

Oh, Jason, this extended bows and hopping around like you really deserve the silver is p*ssing me off.

This is me. So angry watching happy-clappy extended bow Jason. Been a fan for 10 years. Now over it.

 

[zigzig]

Ilia - like his grit and energy.

Brown - scoring was a JOKE. truly disgraceful the way he was showered with huge GOEs on super sketchy elements. Should have been 4th.

Camden - thrilled for his medal but robbed of silver.

Max - robbed of bronze.

Jimmy Ma - thrilled for him.

Daniel Samohin - so cute and glad to see him with a decent skate.

Mindra - def champion of the audience. Get your jumps dude!!!

 

[caseyedwards]

Oh, Jason, this extended bows and hopping around like you really deserve the silver is p*ssing me off.

This is what US judges are doing! The ego is so inflated! And Tara and Johnny also had their heads up his rear

 

[Baby Yoda On Skates]

I'm so glad there's a pewter medal so that Naumov can at least get his deserved accolades.

 

[tony]

I'm so glad there's a pewter medal so that Naumov can at least get his deserved accolades.

It’s a repeat of last year though. Woo hoo. I’m sure that’s how he felt the second his placement came up.

I mean I know even if the placements were reversed, Jason would be going to Worlds anyways. But the scoring is just insanity.

 

[peibeck]

Brown’s TES score is 13.52 pts above base value. Allegedly this reflects the quality of the elements.

Let's face it, the judges just looked like Fanyus when it came to Jason here. An embarrassing look for the USFS. (And I'll reiterate that I am a Jason Brown cheerleader from way back.)

 

[kwanfan1818]

Pulkinen is so gracious . (They really need to give him a GQ spread all suited up.)

Malinin with another reminder of how much schmoozing goes on during the medal ceremony at US Nationals.

JOHN MISHA PETKEVICH

 

[Spikefan]

Oh, Jason, this extended bows and hopping around like you really deserve the silver is p*ssing me off.

Yes, I love him but when you are gifted a silver just bow and get on the podium.

Certain skaters have worn out their welcome with me and I wish they would retire but that’s not happening. And it’s not even the skater’s fault, it’s the judges. I would have been perfectly fine with Jason being 4th.

 

[Baby Yoda On Skates]

It’s a repeat of last year though. Woo hoo. I’m sure that’s how he felt the second his placement came up.

I mean I know even if the placements were reversed, Jason would be going to Worlds anyways. But the scoring is just insanity.

True. I couldn't remember if he was 3rd or 4th and I was too lazy to look it up.

 

[peibeck]

Never let it be said that the man lacks chutzpah. I just wish the USFS would give him a pass on the Worlds assignment.

Weren't you crowing something about "hope dies last" or similar to me earlier this thread?

 

[YourBorneo]

Instead of exhibitions, let’s just have the judges take center ice as a panel discussion and give a detailed explanation and justification of their GOE and PCS marks.

I’d happily pay to attend.

 

[Karen-W]

Weren't you crowing something about "hope dies last" or similar to me earlier this thread?

LOL! Well, wishing and hoping aren't quite the same thing. I know better than to hope for that.

 

[Badams]

I don't know why, but I just love Camden. I'm so glad he medaled.

 

[jlai]

This shouldn’t be a surprise. The judges have always scored the sentimental favorites highly:
, Ryan Bradley 2011
Crisny 2009, 2012,
some other lower ranked skaters

 

[Rukia]

The real winner is whoever gets to give those giant lotion bottles a home

 

[Baby Yoda On Skates]

I don't know why, but I just love Camden. I'm so glad he medaled.

It's the eyebrows.

 

[Karen-W]

This shouldn’t be a surprise. The judges have always scored the sentimental favorites highly:
, Ryan Bradley 2011
Crisny 2009, 2012,
some other lower ranked skaters

Sure, but those skaters also knew when to draw the curtain on their careers...

 

[skatingguy]

Never let it be said that the man lacks chutzpah. I just wish the USFS would give him a pass on the Worlds assignment.

Brown should be named to the Worlds team - he's got the pedigree - with a monitoring session or two scheduled to make sure things are coming along. If he gets to where he was last year than he should go to Worlds because it's a guaranteed top 10 finish. If he's not it gets difficult because the rest of the guys don't have the track record. Pulkinen has been to Worlds once, and was amazing, but how much practice time does he have between now & Worlds with going to Four Continents tomorrow, and then with school for the next couple months. Neither Torgashev, Naumov, or Hiwatashi have the consistency to be counted on for a top 10 finish.

 

[Habs]

Oh, Jason, this extended bows and hopping around like you really deserve the silver is p*ssing me off.

I would have hoped he would have the grace to downplay it a bit. Unless he actually feels like he was second best here?!

 

[jlai]

Sure, but those skaters also knew when to draw the curtain on their careers...

Ryan thought about retiring in 2010 but came back.