The Heir, The Spare and the “Baby Brain” -The Prince Harry and Meghan show rumbles on…

[MacMadame]

It reminds me of what I've read in the past that William & Charles (in particular), being spoiled narcissists imho, weren't fond of H&M's popularity. Word was William wasn't comfortable with Catherine's popularity early in their marriage, which changed when the palace could showcase her more to combat positive press for H&M.

I have no idea who is or is not a narcissist but I remember rumblings like this around Princess Diana. It does seem like at least some people involved (The Firm, the people themselves) get upset when the spotlight isn't on the main guys.

 

[Winnipeg]

Claims about how bad the media is and they cannot get out of the spotlight but are jealous when the spotlight is (likely temporarily) diverted elsewhere. What terrible problems these poor people have.

 

[MsZem]

Not everything that's reported about the BRF needs to be taken at face value.

 

[taf2002]

Claims about how bad the media is and they cannot get out of the spotlight but are jealous when the spotlight is (likely temporarily) diverted elsewhere. What terrible problems these poor people have.

And you know they are jealous how? Oh I forgot, they confide in you, right?

 

[Judy]

Eeeek. I saw an article in my Cdn newspaper then googled more. This wasn’t the original I saw but felt it laid out the accusation.

The "Unnamed Royal" That Asked About Archie's Skin Color Is Allegedly Prince Charles

A new book from Christopher Andersen, 'Brothers And Wives: Inside The Private Lives of William, Kate, Harry and Meghan,' reports that Prince Charles asked about the possibility of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's children having dark complexions.

www.instyle.com

 

[Winnipeg]

And you know they are jealous how? Oh I forgot, they confide in you, right?

It was what I read in an article................and what has been inferred several times on this post.

 

[once_upon]

I wonder what the tabloids will do once the crown has been placed on a Charles' head and Harry & Meagan go home.

 

[taf2002]

It was what I read in an article................and what has been inferred several times on this post.

Well then it must be true. Nevermind that Meghan hasn't made a public statement for quite a while & has not done one thing to draw attention to herself other than her podcast, which btw has nothing to do with the RF. I can't understand the constant harrassment.

 

[MacMadame]

Well then it must be true. Nevermind that Meghan hasn't made a public statement for quite a while & has not done one thing to draw attention to herself other than her podcast, which btw has nothing to do with the RF. I can't understand the constant harrassment.

Since she posted right after me, I assumed she was talking about the BRF who -- it has been reported -- are upset whenever H&M (and before that, Princess Diana) get attention because all attention needs to be on Charles and his direct heir. ?

 

[MsZem]

Well then it must be true. Nevermind that Meghan hasn't made a public statement for quite a while & has not done one thing to draw attention to herself other than her podcast, which btw has nothing to do with the RF. I can't understand the constant harrassment.

I have no idea what Meghan wants, or which tabloid stories - if any - are true. But someone(s) is giving People magazine all sorts of seemingly behind the scenes stuff (here's a recent example), and I don't think it's Archie and Lili.

 

[once_upon]

I think there are a lot of assumptions on motives for the members of this totally dysfunctional family.

A family that has been dysfunctional as far back as Henry the VIiI and farther back to when wars were played out for power.

Much like the feudal days, sides are chosen. In the past wars were started/played out probable because of what we see today. Then it was weaponry and killing. Today it's media and words. But sides are chosen and words thrown about like swords of the past.

Basically it's a dysfunctional family steeped in money, power and pomp & circumstance. With wars fueled by public, media and words.

 

[taf2002]

I have no idea what Meghan wants, or which tabloid stories - if any - are true. But someone(s) is giving People magazine all sorts of seemingly behind the scenes stuff (here's a recent example), and I don't think it's Archie and Lili.

This info comes from "a source". Could it be from someone who is invited to the party?

Nevermind, it's obviously from Meghan just drawing attention to herself as usual. Sheese!

 

[Judy]

Claims about how bad the media is and they cannot get out of the spotlight but are jealous when the spotlight is (likely temporarily) diverted elsewhere. What terrible problems these poor people have.

the U.K press can make millions with their photos. I’d have a huge, huge, huge problem with helicopters hovering over where I was living. Come on.

 

[MacMadame]

So they are calling Lilbet, Lili now? Or was that just People Magazine being cute?

 

[MsZem]

This info comes from "a source". Could it be from someone who is invited to the party?

That's just one example. People runs a lot of stories about Harry and Meghan's life that are attributed to "a source". I assume it's a publicist working for the Sussexes, or that they have an awful lot of people in their circle who like to share stuff with that outlet. You tell me: which is more likely?

 

[puglover]

I agree the BRF has had their problems but I have still seen much to admire, especially in the life of Queen Elizabeth II. Even many who do not support the monarchy and what it represents, have a soft spot for her and appreciate her strength of character. The love story between her and Prince Philip is a beautiful one. I think of her calling her partner of 70 years "my strength and stay".
One would think Fergie would have some negative feelings toward her former MIL but she speaks now of great love and respect for her. Charles should have been free to marry the love of his life but expectations on him as "heir" prevented it and led to the ill-fated marriage to Diana. I believe the Queen loved all her grandchildren and continued to reach out in love to Prince Harry even in her challenging later years of poor health. Just my opinion but I just don't think they have more dysfunction than most large families.

 

[once_upon]

Ya'll know that I believe Meghan (and Harry) have been blamed for all the riff.

But for goodness sake who do you think is REALLY benefiting from this fight? Not Meghan, not Harry, not Wills, not Kate or King/Queen.

The freaking tabloids, Oprah, book publishers, clicks on internet.

Sources earn money by leaking information. Media increases revenue when we buy their crap. The media loves it when people choose sides - what better way to increase revenue with click bait.

I think it's time to not let the media win.

 

[marbri]

So they are calling Lilbet, Lili now? Or was that just People Magazine being cute?

I think that comes from Meghan and Harry themselves. They called her Lili when they announced her birth and name.

 

[Winnipeg]

Well then it must be true. Nevermind that Meghan hasn't made a public statement for quite a while & has not done one thing to draw attention to herself other than her podcast, which btw has nothing to do with the RF. I can't understand the constant harrassment.

You sure have a low bar for harassment!

 

[MacMadame]

That's just one example. People runs a lot of stories about Harry and Meghan's life that are attributed to "a source". I assume it's a publicist working for the Sussexes, or that they have an awful lot of people in their circle who like to share stuff with that outlet. You tell me: which is more likely?

I think it's both. Some of her friends get interviewed a lot so would have lots of opportunities to spill the tea and H&M definitely have a publicist.

 

[kwanfan1818]

I don't remember them ever saying that they wanted a complete press black-out nor have they ever said that all press is created equal. Like many, if not most people, they want control over how much they share, including about their children, and, unlike most people, who don't have the opportunity to monetize and publicize, who gets the benefits.

 

[taf2002]

You sure have a low bar for harassment!

Go ahead then, pile on. Make sure they suffer to your satisfaction. If you want to believe everything "a source" says no one can stop you. Haterz gotta hate. Sad.

 

[puglover]

I can totally understand any public figure wanting to control their own narrative and only share personal information, like about children, when and how they choose. I am not sure media works that way but it would be nice if it did. Prince Harry has also said he has PTSD, or words to that effect, from lightbulb flashes and invasive cameras and he did not want that for his family. Meghan has stated she wants to take her children to school without media, unlike Kate. I believe the Royals have a deal with the British media that allows them access on the first day of school, etc. in exchange for not constant stalking. I guess time will tell how things work for Harry and Meghan and their children.

For what it is worth, I think Meghan has far more potential standing slightly apart from her husband and his family image wise. I have heard she is contemplating? restarting her TIG blog. She is certainly better known now and she could include not just make-up and fashion but childcare etc. When her children are older and her time is more free, she could focus on issues of the day that she feels strongly about. I am not sure she will ever regain popularity in GB but she could have a strong voice as a bi-racial woman in America. I fail to see as clear a path for Harry.

 

[marbri]

Go ahead then, pile on. Make sure they suffer to your satisfaction. If you want to believe everything "a source" says no one can stop you. Haterz gotta hate. Sad.

Aren't all your opinions of the various royals based on "sources" as well?

What would anyone have to talk about in this thread were it not for all the "sources" out there pushing various agendas?

 

[taf2002]

Aren't all your opinions of the various royals based on "sources" as well?

What would anyone have to talk about in this thread were it not for all the "sources" out there pushing various agendas?

No, there are a lot of photos & videos/interviews of the royals that inform my opinion. I don't make things up or "assume" or spew vitriol for no reason.

 

[Winnipeg]

Well, taf 2002, aren't you the goody two shoes!


We should all try and meet your perceived high standards................gmab

 

[MsZem]

No, there are a lot of photos & videos/interviews of the royals that inform my opinion. I don't make things up or "assume" or spew vitriol for no reason.

You might not, but you seem to take anything that supports Meghan and Harry's claims at face value - unlike your more critical approach to reporting that takes a more critical view of them (or a more lenient view of others in the BRF).

They're all famous people who are trying to curate their image and present themselves in a certain way. They're human, with human fault and strengths, but their lives are not like ours.

 

[taf2002]

Well, taf 2002, aren't you the goody two shoes!


We should all try and meet your perceived high standards................gmab

yes

 

[Sylvia]

May 10, 2023:

Prince Harry's lawyer says British tabloid spied on 'industrial scale'

The publisher of British tabloid the Daily Mirror has acknowledged and apologized for unlawfully gathering information about Prince Harry in its reporting, and said he's due compensation. The admission was made Wednesday in court filings outlining Mirror Group Newspapers' defense in one of...

apnews.com

The British publisher of the Daily Mirror apologized for one instance of snooping on Prince Harry but denied his other claims Wednesday, as a trial for one of Harry’s phone hacking lawsuits began with the prince’s lawyer accusing the newspaper of unlawfully gathering information on “an industrial scale.”
The admission that the publisher employed a private investigator for a 2004 article headlined “Sex on the beach with Harry” may only give the Duke of Sussex a taste of satisfaction, though. Since the story in question wasn’t one of the nearly 150 that Harry alleges resulted from skulduggery, the disclosure may have little bearing on the verdict.

The seven-week trial that opened in London is Harry’s biggest test yet in his legal battle against the British media. He and three others, including two soap opera actors, are suing Mirror Group Newspapers for alleged misuse of private information between 1991 and 2011.
The prince wasn’t in court as his attorney, David Sherborne, began his opening statement, saying unlawful acts were “widespread and habitual” by reporters and editors at the Daily Mirror, Sunday Mirror and Sunday People.
“It was a flood of illegality,” Sherborne said. “But worse, this flood was being approved by senior executives, managing editors and members of the board.”

 

[attyfan]

IMO, this is too much:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/05/12/meghan-markle-coronation-composer-disguise-cnntm-intl-cprog-vpx.cnn