Russian figure skating news & updates in 2022

[Miezekatze]

If Russia were to hold all their competitions with China, they'd have to wear their masks correctly though and that probably for the next 15 years

 

[Karen-W]

Zhulin claiming changing the nationality for the sports is kind of being a traitor.
Tarasova is talking about making the international competitions with the countries who are still in touch with Russia - Belarus/China and some others. Viner (rhythmic gymnastics) is talking about holding competitions with Mongolia. The trouble is football - that's where the money is and having only the national competitions would not attract many people.

Interesting... Sounds like they think this ban is going to last awhile. Good luck telling your athletes that they're the best in the world when no one wants to play with them.

So, last week, Gorshkov was telling us that NO skaters were asking about releases, now Zhulin is telling us that changing nationality for sports is equivalent to treason. If this isn't resolved by the end of June when the season officially ends, I'd bet we see the migration begin in earnest.

 

[taz'smum]

For those of you who were concerned about Tiffany, she has safely arrived in Australia.
As expected, she has a pretty bad headache, despite the medication, as she was not supposed to fly so soon after meningitis.
However, she is just so happy and excited to be in Australia, despite the jetlag and head pain.

 

[Wyliefan]

Glad to hear it! Hope that headache clears up very soon!

 

[morgan rye]

All of Georgia's skaters/teams who have the ISU TES mins to compete at Worlda (Kvitelashvili, Maysuradze, Egadze, Gubanova, Urushadze, Safina/Berulava, Metelkina/Parkman, and Kazakova/Reviya) train in Russia. Same with Azerbaijan's and Kazahkstan's skaters. Belarus' singles skaters split time between Moscow & Minsk and their Pairs & Dance teams train in Minsk.

Several other skaters/teams who train in Russia split their time between Russia and their home countries or are known to not be in Russia at the moment (Brendan Kerry, Hase/Seegert).

Not sure the status of Samoilov POL, Reshtenko CZE, Australia's pairs teams, and the dance teams of Mitrofanova/Kasinskij BIH, Mazingue/Gaidajenko EST, and Mueller/Dieck GER.

ETA - teams mentioned are ones who have ISU Worlds TES mins. There are others who train in Russia but Worlds isn't a consideration for them at this time, though they might also be reevaluating their training options too.

i would be surprised if russia wants anyone they can control to go to worlds and be exposed to western news media. they might bring home what is really happening.

 

[Karen-W]

i would be surprised if russia wants anyone they can control to go to worlds and be exposed to western news media. they might bring home what is really happening.

Russia can't keep them in the country if they have passports for other countries - and any of them who competed at the Olympics will have them, and I'm pretty sure the rest of the Georgian team does too.

 

[aka_gerbil]

Russia can't keep them in the country if they have passports for other countries - and any of them who competed at the Olympics will have them, and I'm pretty sure the rest of the Georgian team does too.

They can be denied boarding at the airport, be turned back at land border, and/or the government can revoke their passport (everyone’s passport) and close the borders, preventing anyone from living.

 

[hanca]

Did she want to continue though? They sort of hit a plateau? I wonder also if Bagin just wanted to move on. But will they skate for Russia? Where will they compete? They're starting over with new partners at 21 and 22. Hmmm.

Well, it worked fine for Katsalapov to switch at the age of 22.

 

[kwanfan1818]

i would be surprised if russia wants anyone they can control to go to worlds and be exposed to western news media. they might bring home what is really happening.

Anyone with multiple citizenships including Russian citizenship is treated as a Russian-only citizen when they are in Russia. So if Russia is stopping Russian citizens from leaving the country, either all or a subset (ex: men between the ages of 16-60), they have the right to do so.

That is true of US citizens with other passports while they are in the US, Canadian citizens with other passports while they are in Canada, etc. There are exceptions, like foreign embassies, and possibly military bases, and any country-specific exceptions. But if you don't qualify, your other citizenships become meaningless.

 

[clairecloutier]

Channel One Cup is rescheduled for the same week as Worlds :

https://fs-gossips.com/alexander-go...kaJz4qnY077xITbbPM8vYoW_dU0kcVkB1VjN6bt4ESqwI

 

[Karen-W]

Channel One Cup is rescheduled for the same week as Worlds :

https://fs-gossips.com/alexander-go...kaJz4qnY077xITbbPM8vYoW_dU0kcVkB1VjN6bt4ESqwI

Well, they can tell themselves that this is at least as good as Worlds, but that doesn't make it true. Will they invite any Belarusian or Chinese skaters to participate?

 

[ChelleC]

Channel One Cup is rescheduled for the same week as Worlds :

https://fs-gossips.com/alexander-go...kaJz4qnY077xITbbPM8vYoW_dU0kcVkB1VjN6bt4ESqwI

They're trolling us now. Oh well I know which event I'll be watching.

 

[Karen-W]

They're trolling us now. Oh well I know which event I'll be watching.

Can we even watch Channel 1 outside of Russia now? I thought YT blocked all the Russian channels.

 

[Sylvia]

eeCan we even watch Channel 1 outside of Russia now? I thought YT blocked all the Russian channels.

If you check the "Russian Cup series & other domestic events (2021-22)" thread in Kiss & Cry, the most recent domestic comp. was livestreamed on YT from March 1-5 (eta via the TheFSRussia YT channel, not Russian Channel One).

 

[Elka]

They will be overscored even more than usually, make a lot of "world records", be declared "real world champions" and get fake WC medals etc.

 

[Perky Shae Lynn]

They will be overscored even more than usually, make a lot of "world records", be declared "real world champions" and get fake WC medals etc.

These are real athletes, who worked their entire lives to be the best. Enough with gloating already.

 

[Elka]

These are real athletes, who worked their entire lives to be the best. Enough with gloating already.

Gloating? No, just predicting. I have been working with SU, then Russia and Ukraine, totally for 39,5 years. A lot of predicting, and then some more, what they will do next. I am more often right than I would like to be.

 

[Vagabond]

Channel One Cup is rescheduled for the same week as Worlds :

https://fs-gossips.com/alexander-go...kaJz4qnY077xITbbPM8vYoW_dU0kcVkB1VjN6bt4ESqwI

"Channel One Cup is brought to you by the makers of Grandpa's. Grandpa's, the formula that lets you train longer and harder. You'll love it!"

 

[Frau Muller]

They can be denied boarding at the airport, be turned back at land border, and/or the government can revoke their passport (everyone’s passport) and close the borders, preventing anyone from living.

Yes, just as happened to my husband (dual citizen) in mid-January…not allowed to board flight to the USA because of some instant COVID test that they concocted (“random test”) at Moscow Sheremetievo…despite him having taken the required lab test that indicated negative for the crud. He finally was allowed home four weeks later after we involved the US Consulate.

 

[Frau Muller]

"Channel One Cup is brought to you by the makers of Grandpa's. Grandpa's, the formula that lets you train longer and harder. You'll love it!"

Sort of like a Russian GERITOL!
at the risk of dating myself

FEEL STRONGER…FAST!
Быстро почувствуйте себя сильнее!

 

[ChelleC]

Can we even watch Channel 1 outside of Russia now? I thought YT blocked all the Russian channels.

The last time I checked my saved skating videos, the ones from Channel One's YouTube were still available. I think YouTube took away their ability to make money from the channels, and they aren't advertising them.

 

[Frau Muller]

It’s on youtube. Search or copy-paste in Cyrillic:

первый канал

For example, the constant live news (or “news”) feed link:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

m.youtube.com

So this and other Russian-language channels are no longer offered by Comcast (or other?) cable subscriptions…but we can watch it via YouTube. Just no ads/monetization.

Since I can call-up YouTube on my SmartTV, it can all be easily watched, live, on a big screen. Just no ads, which is fine by me. Not that there weren’t many to begin.

 

[AxelAnnie]

It’s on youtube. Search or copy-paste in Cyrillic:

первый канал

For example, the constant live news (or “news”) feed link:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

m.youtube.com

So this and other Russian-language channels are no longer offered by Comcast (or other?) cable subscriptions…but we can watch it via YouTube. Just no ads/monetization.

Since I can call-up YouTube on my SmartTV, it can all be easily watched, live, on a big screen. Just no ads, which is fine by me. Not that there weren’t many to begin.

UMMMM - don't I pay a lot of money to Peacock for access to these events? It is such a weird world.

 

[kirkbiggestfan]

I think that Australia can now expedite citizenship for potential Olympic athletes. Getting a release from Russia will be impossible these days but the ISU will have to react quickly. I would love to see Tiff and Jonathan back on the ice for another Olympic cycle.

 

[aka_gerbil]

UMMMM - don't I pay a lot of money to Peacock for access to these events? It is such a weird world.

The Channel One Cup is a Russian domestic cheesefest, not an isu international competition or US domestic qualifying competition. I find know what it would be expected for US-based Peacock to carry it.

 

[mtnskater]

Based on the Ukraine horror and the Russian doping of their figure skaters ( if you think Valieva is the only one, I have a bridge to sell you…) I will not tune into any Russian Cup, Nationals or any other event they put up on YouTube or any where else. For me Russia is canceled.

 

[aka_gerbil]

Based on the Ukraine horror and the Russian doping of their figure skaters ( if you think Valieva is the only once, I have a bridge to sell you…) I will not tune into any Russian Cup, Nationals or any other event they put up on YouTube or any where else. For me Russia is canceled.

And no one is going to force you.

I will continue to watch T/M skate wherever footage shows up of them.

 

[taz'smum]

I think that Australia can now expedite citizenship for potential Olympic athletes. Getting a release from Russia will be impossible these days but the ISU will have to react quickly. I would love to see Tiff and Jonathan back on the ice for another Olympic cycle.

That would mean a 4th citizenship for Tiff
She is also entitled to an Irish citizenship via her Irish grandma.
Truly a citizen of the World

 

[once_upon]

That would mean a 4th citizenship for Tiff
She is also entitled to an Irish citizenship via her Irish grandma.
Truly a citizen of the World

I am so glad she and Jon are out of Russia.

 

[Karen-W]

I am so glad she and Jon are out of Russia.

@taz'smum - is Jon going to be joining her? I saw he was in Portugal and wondered if that was a detour. I'm very glad that they are both in a position to have options outside of Russia for training (and access to money/real news) for now.