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I just hope Schizas can keep this going in the individual event. She seems so unfazed though.
Not to jinx her - but so far she seems to have nerves of steel!Well the CBC commentators were definitely right when they called Maddie the MVP of Team Canada. Another PB score. And I loved how her coach put her doubled lutz - 'just one rotation short'. But the rest of the program was well done!
Yes, I was thinking the same this morning. It felt very similar. Madeline really came through in a big way in the team event (even more so than Osmond in 2014), and I think she just didn’t have enough gas left to regroup to do it again a week and a half later.Not much different from how Osmond skated in Sochi. A learning experience. Judges won't forget her potential due to a disappointing individual.
Her new fan thread : https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...ation-thread-we’ve-got-a-new-girl-now.109390/Why have I totally missed Madeline Schizas up to now? Shame on me! I loved that Madame Butterfly program. What a gutsy and beautiful skater!
Competition thread has been started in Kiss & Cry.According to the Skate Canada International Assignments page, Pereira and Miclette are doing the Challenge Cup as a tune up for jr worlds
Thank you so much for posting this quote, @Sylvia. This is so what we need to see right now.Her new fan thread : https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/maddie-schizas-cheer-appreciation-thread-we’ve-got-a-new-girl-now.109390/
Lori Ewing tweeted a great quote from Maddie yesterday: https://twitter.com/Ewingsports/status/1494497990744096768
One of these 2 or another one? https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...htness-of-beijing.108769/page-67#post-6210790Not for this thread but there's a wonderful article today about Alysa Liu, and her joy at her Olympic experience including sharing it with her skating friends.
And yet, Sinitsina/Katsalapov, who competed in their individual event before Maddie competed in hers, were actually better in the ID event than the TE. And Nathan was even better in the Men's SP than he was in the TE SP. And Gubanova was about the same in both.The Team Event took out all of Maddie's energy, like it did for Roman. Unfortunate. Better luck at Worlds!
You're correct that it's not universal by any means, but worth noting that that was Maddie's self-assessment of the situation.And yet, Sinitsina/Katsalapov, who competed in their individual event before Maddie competed in hers, were actually better in the ID event than the TE. And Nathan was even better in the Men's SP than he was in the TE SP. And Gubanova was about the same in both.
My point being - there's really no rhyme nor reason for why some skaters did better in one event than the other and blaming the TE for "taking out all their energy" is a lame excuse. Many of these skaters have competitions in back-to-back weeks during the fall, so I'm pretty sure that most of them had plenty of time to recuperate and rev back up (or not) for their individual events.
I'm not sure Canada would get the bronze medal even if Valieva were disqualified. The Russians had a total of 74 points, 20 of them from Valieva's two segments. That would leave Russia with 54 points and Canada with 53. Russia would win the bronze medal, US gold and Japan silver.Madeline was interviewed about the team event medals question recently:
Canada skaters wait for Olympic medal that may not come
Canadian figure skater Madeline Schizas could end up a medalist at the Beijing Games, though she isn’t holding her breath for the results of the Russian doping scandal that has cast a shadow over figure skating at the Winter Olympicswww.sandiegouniontribune.com
That is what should be done if Russia is treated the way Germany and Ukraine were in the Pairs and Men's SP segments where they got 0 points for not fielding a competitor. And I'm pretty sure that precedent is what the COC would point to in an appeal if the ISU doesn't redistribute the points from the Women’s SP and FS.I'm not sure Canada would get the bronze medal even if Valieva were disqualified. The Russians had a total of 74 points, 20 of them from Valieva's two segments. That would leave Russia with 54 points and Canada with 53. Russia would win the bronze medal, US gold and Japan silver.
The only way Canada gets the bronze medal would be if everyone in the two women's segments gets moved up one point; it's not clear that would be done.
But if you remove only Valieva's points, then you also have to bump up the individual female skaters, meaning Canada gets end place points for both women's segments, which placed them ahead of Russia.That is what should be done if Russia is treated the way Germany and Ukraine were in the Pairs and Men's SP segments where they got 0 points for not fielding a competitor. And I'm pretty sure that precedent is what the COC would point to in an appeal if the ISU doesn't redistribute the points from the Women’s SP and FS.
Silken Laumann's teammates lost their Pan Am Games gold medal when Silken tested positive for pseudoephedrine (she took the wrong cold medicine).Back in 1968, when one of the Swedish modern pentathletes tested positive for ethanol (Liljenvall claimed he had two beers to calm his nerves before the shooting phase, but his alcohol level was 0.4 Must have been two very large beers), the whole team was disqualified, losing the bronze medal. They didn't just remove Liljenvall's points and recalculate the results.
1968 Modern Pentathlon
You are referencing all the seasoned, top competitors. And Gubanova has been consistent the entire season. Skaters like Maddie and Roman are already inconsistent at times and not that experienced - for them it is as much psychological as it is mental. Not even Mark K survived. I am guessing the expectation on Maddie went up ten fold given how she skated at the TE and she simply couldn't handle. On the other hand, the subpar outings by Roman in the TE broke him to the point of no return.And yet, Sinitsina/Katsalapov, who competed in their individual event before Maddie competed in hers, were actually better in the ID event than the TE. And Nathan was even better in the Men's SP than he was in the TE SP. And Gubanova was about the same in both.
My point being - there's really no rhyme nor reason for why some skaters did better in one event than the other and blaming the TE for "taking out all their energy" is a lame excuse. Many of these skaters have competitions in back-to-back weeks during the fall, so I'm pretty sure that most of them had plenty of time to recuperate and rev back up (or not) for their individual events.
I looked at their results at Challenge Cup and it looks like both got their minimums for Jr. WorldsAccording to the Skate Canada International Assignments page, Pereira and Miclette are doing the Challenge Cup as a tune up for jr worlds (it's listed as STEEL CITY TROPHY but that's obviously a typo).
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Both Justine Miclette and Lia Pereira already had their Junior Worlds minimums from the JGP and improved their TES scores in their free skates (Miclette improved SP too) — congrats to both on a successful competition!I looked at their results at Challenge Cup and it looks like both got their minimums for Jr. Worlds