2022 Four Continents Comes To Rude Euro Land (Relocation to Tallinn)

[Lemonade20]

Fabulous. I daresay if you and I were in charge of the sport,figure skating would be back to 1994 levels of popularity in no time whatsoever.

-BB

Minus the whack heard around the world of course!

 

[MsZem]

For as long as I can remember, Europeans seems to be Russian Nationals, and then everyone else.

This is true if one's memories don't go further back than 2020.

The men's event at Euros was Javier Fernandez and then everyone else for years. P/C not winning in 2020 was shocking after five straight titles.

In the women's event, Russian dominance is actually a fairly recent development. After Slutskaya's retirement, no Russian woman medalled at Euros until Tuktamysheva and Sotnikova in 2013, and it was Kostner who won that year. Kostner medalled at every European Championship she competed at from 2006 through 2018, and before 2013 she was usually joined by Finnish skaters and/or Sarah Meier. So it's been two championships with an all-Russian podium. I expect 2022 will make that three in a row, but maybe someone will surprise us.

Anyway, at any given time either 4CC or Euros will be the stronger event for certain disciplines. I think Euros typically has more competitors, but this does not necessarily equate to depth

 

[allezfred]

For as long as I can remember, Europeans seems to be Russian Nationals, and then everyone else.

You need to get a better memory

 

[Frau Muller]

.... I think Euros typically has more competitors, but this does not necessarily equate to depth

Not in the early years of 4Cs, before there were ISU minimum scores...when half of the women competitors were suburban Americans on their vacations.

It’s changed but it’s taken 4Cs a while to shake-off the early reputation for being the ISU’s poor cousin.

 

[seabm7]

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It's Tallin, Estonia. I'm not kidding.

 

[On My Own]

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It's Tallin, Estonia. I'm not kidding.

How many skaters do they expect will attend?

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

You need to get a better memory

I may need to contact you when I update my curtains and awnings. #Shade

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

How many skaters do they expect will attend?

ISU Four Continents Figure Skating Championships - International Skating Union

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It's Tallin, Estonia. I'm not kidding.

Can anyone enter, or is it just open to Four Continents countries?

Maybe they can get Dick Button out of retirement, considering he is the only Non-European man to win that competition.

All kidding aside, that location couldn't be more remote from North & South America, Asia and Oceania.

 

[Frau Muller]

ISU Four Continents Figure Skating Championships - International Skating Union

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It's Tallin, Estonia. I'm not kidding.

ROTFL!
A great mid-winter vacation spot for Tammy Gambill & her crew of skaters!!

 

[mjb52]

well ok I guess they listened to us?

 

[Frau Muller]

ROTFL!
A great mid-winter vacation spot for Tammy Gambill & her crew of skaters!!

P.s. Right after Tallin hosts Euros...Why don’t they just call it the first FIVE CONTINENTS CHAMPIONSHIPS?

 

[allezfred]

P.s. Right after Tallin hosts Euros...Why don’t they just call it the first FIVE CONTINENTS CHAMPIONSHIPS?

Because that would be Worlds….

 

[Frau Muller]

Because that would be Worlds….

Ha ha! Worlds with lower minimums...The “Y’all Come!” Championships.

January can’t come soon enough.

 

[MsZem]

ISU Four Continents Figure Skating Championships - International Skating Union

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It's Tallin, Estonia. I'm not kidding.

This way it'll be equally inconvenient for skaters based in East Asia and North America! Perhaps Lambiel is behind it

NA-based European skaters undertake similar travel in Olympic seasons (and this year's competitors will have to travel to Tallin just a week earlier), so we'll see if the issue is the distance or something else.

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

If it's any consolation, no one can complain about jetlag and how long it takes to get to Four Continents.

It'll take ages for EVERYONE now.

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

This way it'll be equally inconvenient for skaters based in East Asia and North America! Perhaps Lambiel is behind it

NA-based European skaters undertake similar travel in Olympic seasons (and this year's competitors will have to travel to Tallin just a week earlier), so we'll see if the issue is the distance or something else.

I heard that Epimetheus, one of the moons from Saturn, had put in a bid to host.

 

[Vagabond]

Or the Estonian Fed could host it at the same time as Euros and turn the event into a maxi-Worlds.

well ok I guess they listened to us?

Let's just say that I worked with them.

 

[MsZem]

Are there even direct flights to Tallinn from any of the 4CC countries?

Time to change the thread title, I think, or start a new thread.

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

I'm sure that the Italian or Russian Fed would take it. Or the Estonian Fed could host it at the same time as Euros and turn the event into a maxi-Worlds.

Maybe Kotex could be an official sponsor. #JustSayin'

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

Since rules about where an event actually needs to be held have been thrown completely out the window, I want Trusova to stay on after Europeans and put in a petition to enter the men's event at Four Continents. She could totally win it.

 

[tony]

Did it say Estonia at one point on the ISU link? Because as of this moment it's listed (back to?) TBA.

 

[Vagabond]

Did it say Estonia at one point on the ISU link? Because as of this moment it's listed (back to?) TBA.

It did twenty minutes ago.

 

[Karen-W]

ISU Four Continents Figure Skating Championships - International Skating Union

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It's Tallin, Estonia. I'm not kidding.

Huh? When I click on the link it says "TBA" for the location and the map takes you to Lausanne (ISU headquarters).

 

[Gris]

Did it say Estonia at one point on the ISU link? Because as of this moment it's listed (back to?) TBA.

Yes. This tweet has a screenshot.

 

[MsZem]

Did it say Estonia at one point on the ISU link? Because as of this moment it's listed (back to?) TBA.

It did. Maybe they copy-pasted the Euros page

 

[seabm7]

Deleted. Double post of #234.

 

[Karen-W]

It did. Maybe they copy-pasted the Euros page

Let's just blame auto-correct - it's easy to switch Taipei and Tallinn, right?

 

[MsZem]

Let's just blame auto-correct - it's easy to switch Taipei and Tallinn, right?

Plus the list of entries still says Tianjin.

 

[Karen-W]

Plus the list of entries still says Tianjin.

Something has definitely changed and we can probably expect an announcement, I think, within the next day or two. The main event page says Jan 17-17, 2022; the list of entries main page still says Jan 16-22, 2022 which were the original dates; and the captured sreenshot that was tweeted out said Jan 18-22, 2022.

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

Let's just blame auto-correct - it's easy to switch Taipei and Tallinn, right?

From Dallas to Donuts, does this mean Sidney in Ohio is hosting the 2023 event now?