Just call me Harry. (Everything Harry & Meghan)

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wickedwitch said:
I don't think BP owes Meghan and Harry any money. But they did owe them decency and respect, which they clearly didn't get. And the latter is far more important.
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Precisely. IMO they made the right decision for the health and well being of their family, and if they struggle a bit with the financial aspects of that decision, they will have to live with it. I wish them the best though.
 
Sorry, I thought that Harry come across as horrific in the Oprah interview. Totally threw his family under the bus and I don’t think he looked that great towards Meghan, either.

I can believe that Meghan didn’t totally understand what she was getting into. But Harry didn’t know? Really? Either he failed her as her husband, or there’s something more bizarre going on here.

I just can’t wait for the Netflix movie that will come out about this in about a year..........🍿

Slightly related, I thought The Crown was only going to have one more season, but they will apparently last for a sixth (and final) season. I’m assuming the final season will be about William & Kate.
 
taf2002 said:
I am amazed by the statements of fact being made here by people who don't have a fckg clue. Why did some of you watch the interview when you had decided in advance that nothing H&M said was believable? Do you hate them that much? I didn't believe every word because I think some of this was perception & not necessarily fact but I found Meghan more open & thus more believable than Harry.

Oprah displayed lots of tabloid headlines that had been said about the couple, mostly Meghan, that were disgusting. Most people probably couldn't see them & not feel bad for her. But a lot of you seem to think they weren't that bad & they should have just kept a stiff upper lip. What if the same had been said about you, day after day? And if then the senior members of your family who could have spoken out didn't do anything to protect you or a least commiserate with you wouldn't you feel hurt & abandoned?

You don't know whether H&M did or did not want Archie to have a title. You just believe what the tabloids say. Eugenie & Beatrice have the princess title because that's what Andrew wanted for them. It may not be that H&M wanted him to be called prince but the fact that Harry's own father i.e. the grandfather when he became king planned to pass a rule specifically to deny him princehood had to do more than sting. What a insult! Some of you keep bringing up Anne's or Edward's kids. Do you really think that if there were serious death threats about Zara or Louise that The Firm wouldn't protect them? Charles knew there were death threats to his grandson & apparently didn't think that was important.

BTW the protection detail in Canada were the British version of secret service so their salaries would be to British citizens & be taxed. So the UK would be getting some benefits just as though they were working citizens in the UK.
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I never said that I didn’t believe Harry and Meghan. What I said is I don’t like them bringing up personal issues with family in interviews. And I said it was hypocritical of them especially since they screamed about Meghans family doing it. Then I said I will okay wait and see what the interview is.


I am also saying that it’s unfair for them to suggest this title thing is about race when it’s well known by all that Charles had wanted to make these changes for years.

Long before Meghan was in the picture in 2011 rules were changed for Williams specific kids and they made a point to not include any of Harry’s.

As for the security Charles and the royal family was paying for Harry’s security. Then they chose to move overseas where security costs quadrupled. At what point are Harry and Meghan responsible for their own choices?

And lots of people get death threats especially peope in the public eye. How do you know Louise hasn’t. Louises parents pay for their security.

you want rhe royal family to pay maybe don’t quadruple your own security costs?

Harry and Meghan have a 200 million dollar Neflix deal they can handle their kids security.
 
Simone411 said:
I'm afraid it isn't that way for Meghan, and it's not right by any means. People need to open their eyes and quit wearing rose-colored glasses to how the world really is.
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The people who actually need to open their eyes and quit wearing rose-colored glasses are Meghan and Harry. Especially "I don't see race" Harry.
 
taf2002 said:
If he really wanted to throw them under the bus he would have told who had a problem with Archie's skin color.
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Except that not naming anyone means that there will be speculation about everyone (other than QE and Philip, as per Oprah's comments earlier today). Much more damaging.

Likewise, not saying who blocked Meghan from getting mental health treatment, which she very clearly needed and wanted.

Doing this blind item style means that any members of the BRF have to either be the target of speculation or they'll have to make some kind of public statement (which may not be believed).
 
If you don't want to be thrown under the bus, don't engage in conversations about the potential darkness of a baby being a liability. Somehow, I doubt the person who made the actual comments is like that racist uncle we have. It's inherent in the system. If you don't want to be tied to this, then engage in changing the system.
 
becca said:
I never said that I didn’t believe Harry and Meghan. What I said is I don’t like them bringing up personal issues with family in interviews. And I said it was hypocritical of them especially since they screamed about Meghans family doing it. Then I said I will okay wait and see what the interview is.


I am also saying that it’s unfair for them to suggest this title thing is about race when it’s well known by all that Charles had wanted to make these changes for years.

Long before Meghan was in the picture in 2011 rules were changed for Williams specific kids and they made a point to not include any of Harry’s.

As for the security Charles and the royal family was paying for Harry’s security. Then they chose to move overseas where security costs quadrupled. At what point are Harry and Meghan responsible for their own choices?

And lots of people get death threats especially peope in the public eye. How do you know Louise hasn’t. Louises parents pay for their security.

you want rhe royal family to pay maybe don’t quadruple your own security costs?

Harry and Meghan have a 200 million dollar Neflix deal they can handle their kids security.
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Are you actually clueless? Don't you understand that the fact that Charles didn't care that his own grandson was getting death threats was the issue, not who paid for it?

As for not airing family issues, when Meghan's family did it their posts were just like the tabloids, "Princess Pushy" "you're killing our dad" etc. I'm sure you'd love it if your own family turned on you this way. :rolleyes: And for the criticism of the Firm, apparently you're one of the Keep An Upper Lip & Don't Complain No Matter What kind of person. Yeah, that worked out so well for her.
 
manhn said:
If you don't want to be thrown under the bus, don't engage in conversations about the potential darkness of a baby being a liability. Somehow, I doubt the person who made the actual comments is like that racist uncle we have. It's inherent in the system. If you don't want to be tied to this, then engage in changing the system.
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That's the thing - it's all vague, and there's no way of knowing how ingrained this kind of thing was. The BRF is first and foremost QE's show, but there's no accusation (implied or explicit) against her. So who is it that needs to be held accountable?
 
MsZem said:
That's the thing - it's all vague, and there's no way of knowing how ingrained this kind of thing was. The BRF is first and foremost QE's show, but there's no accusation (implied or explicit) against her. So who is it that needs to be held accountable?
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I mean, it doesn't matter who it is. It's really offensive.
 
canbelto said:
@becca, I've said this before. You have my full sympathy with regards to your mother. But if that situation is so overwhelming that you need to tell people on the board about it, then how could you not get that M&H also need to vent?
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All I said is my mom refused the vacinne. I hardly went into all the issues with my mom. Furthermore. I would never go on National tv and announce the same where my face would be plastered and all my moms friends and family would learn this. If you cannot see the difference I don’t know what to say

I would never take my family issues to Jerry Springer.
 
taf2002 said:
Are you actually clueless? Don't you understand that the fact that Charles didn't care that his own grandson was getting death threats was the issue, not who paid for it?

As for not airing family issues, when Meghan's family did it their posts were just like the tabloids, "Princess Pushy" "you're killing our dad" etc. I'm sure you'd love it if your own family turned on you this way. :rolleyes: And for the criticism of the Firm, apparently you're one of the Keep An Upper Lip & Don't Complain No Matter What kind of person. Yeah, that worked out so well for her.
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And Meghan and Harry choose to leave this free security.

I am saying Meghan shouldn’t talk to someone about her issues. I am saying she shouldn’t give a public interview with 17 million people watching and announce to the world.

The behavior is exactly the same as her families behavior.
And it’s done to do harm to others it’s done to destroy others reputation.
 
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Loved the photos in People of Meghan and Archie on the beach. Surprised at his black hair. I'm such a sucker for toddlers that I'd love to see what he looked like but understand why they want to keep him protected.
 
I don't care whether they mentioned a name or not--I would have supported them either way in this instance. They're the victims--they can disclose as little or as much of their abuse as they want. Besides, if they mentioned a name, the same critics would be horrified that they would malign that individual. You can already imagine the defences: "Oh, that poor person was merely acknowledging how much tougher it would be for Archie if he could not pass for white because we live in such a racist society, blah, blah."

Even before this incident was mentioned, the racism of the monarchy and how it's been maintained was already apparent by me. I'm ready for Canada to get rid of it.
 
taf2002 said:
If he really wanted to throw them under the bus he would have told who had a problem with Archie's skin color.
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He should have went ahead and named names. If you’re doing an interview that’s going to burn bridges with most of your family anyway, why hold back on the most volatile allegation that you have?

If Prince Philip is indeed critically ill and he passed away soon, will we see Harry & Meghan at the funeral? Especially after this interview?

Another thing I wondered last night: Why was Oprah this bad about follow on questions during the interview?
 
Meghan: oh, it's terrible how the BRF and the media influence each other, the BRF treats them nicely in exchange for positive coverage, they even invite them to a Christmas party every year.

Also Meghan: does softball interview with a member of the media who was a guest at her wedding.
 
This would make an AMAZING episode of The Crown. It would start with a flashback of Charles being ignored by his mother and father and them not answering his phone calls. It would end with Charles not answering Harry's phone calls. Poor parenting comes full circle. It would be interspersed with interview footage of H&M and Diana.
 
I don't know if this is reliable:

Meghan and Harry were not legally married three days before their wedding. A source close to them acknowledges this and says Meghan was describing a private exchange of vows in the interview but their legal marriage was on May 19 #HarryandMeghanonOprah
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canbelto said:
This would make an AMAZING episode of The Crown. It would start with a flashback of Charles being ignored by his mother and father and them not answering his phone calls. It would end with Charles not answering Harry's phone calls. Poor parenting comes full circle. It would be interspersed with interview footage of H&M and Diana.
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Charles and Harry are back on speaking terms and he does talk to his grandmother. I saw that on a Global news report.
 
becca said:
His kid who choose to walk away let’s point this out here. Harry choose to walk and we only have their point of view. From the point of the palace they tried to with Meghan and nothing was good Enough.
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You are not a parent so maybe that's why you don't get how horrifying it is that Charles didn't care that his son was getting death threats and removed their security without a plan in place to make sure they were protected.

ETA forgot to post my link:

Meghan and Harry’s interview with Oprah stunned. But it’s unlikely to change the British monarchy.​

 
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