Frau Muller
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The finals will probably be Virtual, like the Peggy Fleming Trophy...but hopefully at the same time (real time)...but how to get around the time-zone factor for all involved?
I'm not sure how a Grand Prix Final gets organized...there would have to be so much quarantining...
Take DNA swabs from each of the winners. Jet their samples to Beijing and clone them in a secret laboratory just in time for the final
How do Grand Prix events/assignments work for New teams that haven't obtained minimums yet....thinking of a team like Choinard/Mayr who train in Oakville and represent Austria?Hypothetical Pairs Fields- feel free to correct anyone who is in the wrong location or if I am missing anyone...
USA- Cain/Leduc, Kayne/Oshea, Calalang/Johnson, Knierim/Frazier, Tarasova/Morozov, Lu/Mitrofanov, Finster/Nagy
CAN- MT/M, Walsh/Michaud, Ruest/Wolfe, Brasseur/Daleman, Serafini/Tran, Miura/Kihara, Stellato/Deschamps
FRA- DM/Guarise, James/Cipres?, Hase/Seegert, Hocke/Kunkel, Ghilardi/Ambrosini, Ziegler/Kiefer (or RUS)
CHN- Sui/Han, Peng/Jin, Tang/Yang
JPN ?
RUS Boikova, Mishina, Pavliuchenko, Panfilova, Pleshkov, Kolesov, Nazarychev, Mironov
I wish that instead of this set up they would have done a bubble like the NBA is doing. Test everyone, put everyone in a few hotels, and run a competition with virtual audiences only. They could rent somewhere like the Irvine rink (or even half the Irvine rink) where there's 9 surfaces to train on and let the athletes train on different surfaces. Drama, intrigue, and increased safety. That is, if they can figure out the visa situations for every skater. Of course this is more expensive and logistically difficult, but I think it would be the only way to run the Grand Prix with some minimal level of safety.
I suspect they'll be waiving a lot of those requirements to beef up the numbers in some places.How do Grand Prix events/assignments work for New teams that haven't obtained minimums yet....thinking of a team like Choinard/Mayr who train in Oakville and represent Austria?
I eagerly await your 10,000 word screed the next time Vincent Zhou is credited with a fully rotated quad.Oh yeah, because international skaters would just love to go and be in a bubble in the country where the response is an absolute shitfire. Not to mention the problems many of them would then have getting home. Oh, and let's not start on wanting the judges and officials, almost all of whom fit into the "vulnerable" category based on age, to fly into the US as well! Plus the many older elite coaches. Oh, and don't forget we're also including minors so the bubble would have to include parents/guardians/chaperones for them, and...just where is this money coming from, exactly, even leaving aside the nightmare?
As usual, the ISU's solution heavily favours the big countries and countries that host GPs. Everyone else can go jump, spend thousands of dollars/two weeks in quarantine (probably more), or just not be allowed to skate depending on where from. And let's not even get started on what will happen to scoring when domestic judges are allowed to go wild. May as well write Chen's name on the new world record now, but get ready to erase it in a couple of weeks when Hanyu skates in Japan. It'll be like Nationals scoring all over again, except with real-world consequences.
As usual, the ISU's solution heavily favours the big countries and countries that host GPs. Everyone else can go jump, spend thousands of dollars/two weeks in quarantine (probably more), or just not be allowed to skate depending on where from. And let's not even get started on what will happen to scoring when domestic judges are allowed to go wild. May as well write Chen's name on the new world record now, but get ready to erase it in a couple of weeks when Hanyu skates in Japan. It'll be like Nationals scoring all over again, except with real-world consequences.
And your solution is to do what,dear? Replace Skate America with Cup of Queensland?
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I wonder whether the ISU would consider moving Four Continents to a country where the fans are less hostile to foreigners. France would be a good, neutral location and might be willing to host.
It sounds like a fair exchange to me.Have 4cc in a country that’s not representative of those four continents?
If so I would love for them to have Europeans right here in Los Angeles
I believe that Adam Rippon has this phrase embroidered on a throw pillow.Have 4cc in a country that’s not representative of those four continents?
If so I would love for them to have Europeans right here in Los Angeles.
We’re quite welcoming. I’ll even open up my door (well for Guarise, Nikita and Ivan). One a night should do ANL real good!
As usual, the ISU's solution heavily favours the big countries and countries that host GPs. Everyone else can go jump, spend thousands of dollars/two weeks in quarantine (probably more), or just not be allowed to skate depending on where from. And let's not even get started on what will happen to scoring when domestic judges are allowed to go wild. May as well write Chen's name on the new world record now, but get ready to erase it in a couple of weeks when Hanyu skates in Japan. It'll be like Nationals scoring all over again, except with real-world consequences.
SA is scheduled for the Orleans Hotel/Arena, seating capacity about 8,000. With no spectators, will they move it to a smaller rink and save maybe $25K rental cost. SA has some sponsors, maybe enough to cover the venue cost. Will NBC want to televise an event with reduced foreign entrants, reduced interest? The organizer could sell maybe 1,000 seats, have social distancing, and still have revenue to pay the arena. I think the SC arena in Ottawa is slightly larger, with the same questions.I would be surprised if SA or SC allowed spectators.
I wonder whether the ISU would consider moving Four Continents to a country where the fans are less hostile to foreigners. France would be a good, neutral location and might be willing to host.
SA is scheduled for the Orleans Hotel/Arena, seating capacity about 8,000. With no spectators, will they move it to a smaller rink and save maybe $25K rental cost. SA has some sponsors, maybe enough to cover the venue cost. Will NBC want to televise an event with reduced foreign entrants, reduced interest? The organizer could sell maybe 1,000 seats, have social distancing, and still have revenue to pay the arena. I think the SC arena in Ottawa is slightly larger, with the same questions.
The solution is focused on holding competitive events as safely as possible. It prioritizes skaters who can get to them, whether they represent the host country or not, as well as their health and that of the judging panels. These considerations are vastly more important than anything else.As usual, the ISU's solution heavily favours the big countries and countries that host GPs. Everyone else can go jump, spend thousands of dollars/two weeks in quarantine (probably more), or just not be allowed to skate depending on where from. And let's not even get started on what will happen to scoring when domestic judges are allowed to go wild. May as well write Chen's name on the new world record now, but get ready to erase it in a couple of weeks when Hanyu skates in Japan. It'll be like Nationals scoring all over again, except with real-world consequences.
Yeah, that's why it will never happen. I wish it could, though. Anything's better than the current plan from a safety standpoint.The NBA has way more than any figure skating federation. By an order of magnitude more.
funny, last month everyone here was SO POSITIVE the grand prix series was going to cancelled. where y'all at now????
can't wait for vegas and skate america !!
it seems you really want the world to open up borders and forget about CV just so two decent dance teams can travel to more events because it's just so imbalanced.
If events can be held safely, giving skaters who want to a chance to compete, why shouldn't they?I don't know about @misskarne, but speaking as a fellow Australian I would actually prefer the ISU to do the sensible, decent and responsible thing as global citizens and cancel the frelling Grand Prix, not put skaters, coaches and officials at more risk than they already are in order to create opportunity in a way that then automatically denies access to that opportunity for some members of its regular field.
I don't know about @misskarne, but speaking as a fellow Australian I would actually prefer the ISU to do the sensible, decent and responsible thing as global citizens and cancel the frelling Grand Prix, not put skaters, coaches and officials at more risk than they already are in order to create opportunity in a way that then automatically denies access to that opportunity for some members of its regular field.
And for the record, judging by her instagram Kailaini is currently at home in Newcastle, New South Wales.
People know how to take the proper precautions of staying safe now.
In theory. (Although, with their health at stake, I would imagine that skaters/athletes are following those guidelines vigorously. The problem is, they can't control the people around them but each skater needs to assess the risk for themselves and decide whether or not they think it's worth it).
I believe Emmy is still training with MJM in the Boston area (she competed with her collegiate skating team this past season). I don’t know if she is eligible to start representing TPE this season and/or if that is her intention.Is Emmy Ma supposed to start representing Taiwan this past season? She never skated after August Nationals in 2019. Wonder if she is still training and where she is. If in USA, she may be able to compete at Skate America?
So if AUS can't have skating, no one should have it?I don't know about @misskarne, but speaking as a fellow Australian I would actually prefer the ISU to do the sensible, decent and responsible thing as global citizens and cancel the frelling Grand Prix, not put skaters, coaches and officials at more risk than they already are in order to create opportunity in a way that then automatically denies access to that opportunity for some members of its regular field.
And for the record, judging by her instagram Kailaini is currently at home in Newcastle, New South Wales.