Montreal chosen as host for 2020 figure skating world championships

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I like AirBnB, Booking.com and VRBO for getting good value and staying somewhere with a bit more local color. Not all AirBnB's are rooms in someone's house. The one we stayed in when we were in Kona was a mother-in-law apartment. The one I stayed in for the GPF was also a separate unit in a Bed & Breakfast. Sometimes you can rent a whole house or condo.

I like them because I like to buy a lot of snacks which don't always keep in a hotel room. Also, when I'm short on time, I like to have breakfast in the room. Or a late night tea which the coffee machines in hotel make taste like coffee. So having a microwave to heat water and plates, silverware, etc. makes live easier.
 
Anyone know why tickets are so outrageously expensive this year? I don't even what demographic they're targeting with these prices. Not even front row Beyonce tickets cost this much.
 
I personally like the convenience of staying in hotels. I've used AirBNB in the past...but it's been to stay in Inn-like accommodations or actual BNBs...not to just stay at "some's place".

Having said that, if you don't have the same hotel love that I do, then i'd use AirBNB 10/10 times.

I've never stayed at AirBNB. I would expect you need to leave them in the same condition in which you find them, which would mean having to do a good clean before you vacated the premises? That would be a negative for me. However, we are thinking of taking a trip to Hawaii and will have to look into AirBNB due to the high cost of accomodations there.
 
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I've never stayed at AirBNB. I would expect you need to leave them in the same condition in which you find them, which would mean having to do a good clean before you vacated the premises? That would be a negative for me. However, we are thinking of taking a trip to Hawaii and will have to look into AirBND due to the high cost of accomodations there.

For the ones I've stayed in we just had to throw the trash out and in one we had to strip the beds and put the towels in the laundry room. It wasn't a big deal.
 
I've never stayed at AirBNB. I would expect you need to leave them in the same condition in which you find them, which would mean having to do a good clean before you vacated the premises? That would be a negative for me. However, we are thinking of taking a trip to Hawaii and will have to look into AirBND due to the high cost of accomodations there.
There is an automatic cleaning charge added to the price on airBNB. You don't have to do any cleaning.
 
I like AirBnB, Booking.com and VRBO for getting good value and staying somewhere with a bit more local color. Not all AirBnB's are rooms in someone's house. The one we stayed in when we were in Kona was a mother-in-law apartment. The one I stayed in for the GPF was also a separate unit in a Bed & Breakfast. Sometimes you can rent a whole house or condo.

I like them because I like to buy a lot of snacks which don't always keep in a hotel room. Also, when I'm short on time, I like to have breakfast in the room. Or a late night tea which the coffee machines in hotel make taste like coffee. So having a microwave to heat water and plates, silverware, etc. makes live easier.

Many of the hotels I have stayed have had a fridge and microwave. Some have had dishes too.
 
There are 8 events. Each event is several hours long (longer than most concerts). How much would 8 Beyonce front row tickets cost?

I think the real question is not whether ticket prices are fair compared to prices for a (shorter) Beyoncé concert, but why ticket prices for Montreal 2020 are so expensive relative to ticket prices for recent Worlds in other places, and whether the organizers are facing increased expenses or anticipate increased demand versus prior years, or are simply increasing ticket prices because they think they can.

I would add that unlike someone attending a one-night Beyoncé concert fairly close to home, many people attending Worlds are also paying for flights and long hotel stays, which easily adds several thousand dollars to the cost of the tickets, even with favorable exchange rates.
 
Less expensive lodging has never been an option for me, unfortunately.
I'm still waiting for accessible ticket information to make a decision.

The contact person promised that she would let me know, as soon as this is settled.
 
I think the real question is not whether ticket prices are fair compared to prices for a (shorter) Beyoncé concert, but why ticket prices for Montreal 2020 are so expensive relative to ticket prices for recent Worlds in other places, and whether the organizers are facing increased expenses or anticipate increased demand versus prior years, or are simply increasing ticket prices because they think they can.

I would add that unlike someone attending a one-night Beyoncé concert fairly close to home, many people attending Worlds are also paying for flights and long hotel stays, which easily adds several thousand dollars to the cost of the tickets, even with favorable exchange rates.

Well yes, but that's the difference between a "night out" and a vacation. If worlds is not in your home town or within commuting distance, it's going to be a vacation wherever it is held and whatever the price of tickets. You can't expect to pay concert ticket prices for an event where a large arena has to he hired for a week or more, with all the staff and years of organizing needed to stage an event like words, just because many have to travel for it. Yes the tickets are expensive, but you do have to take 30% off for Canadian exchange rates. My tickets to 4ccs, which I couldn't attend so I lost the money, cost almost as much as the cheapest worlds tickets once all the extra fees and exchange were added in.
 
Less expensive lodging has never been an option for me, unfortunately.
I'm still waiting for accessible ticket information to make a decision.

The contact person promised that she would let me know, as soon as this is settled.

I'm a little startled the access issues weren't resolved before the ticket price announcement was made.

It's been known for a long time which arena would be used. I'd think the organizing committee would be familiar with its layout and would already have an idea of how many accessible tickets were likely to be ordered and how much maneuverability the seating areas provided.
 
Well yes, but that's the difference between a "night out" and a vacation. If worlds is not in your home town or within commuting distance, it's going to be a vacation wherever it is held and whatever the price of tickets. You can't expect to pay concert ticket prices for an event where a large arena has to he hired for a week or more, with all the staff and years of organizing needed to stage an event like words, just because many have to travel for it. Yes the tickets are expensive, but you do have to take 30% off for Canadian exchange rates. My tickets to 4ccs, which I couldn't attend so I lost the money, cost almost as much as the cheapest worlds tickets once all the extra fees and exchange were added in.

Isn’t there a price increase over prior Worlds that isn’t accounted for by the exchange rate, though? That seems to be the point many people have raised.

As to its being a vacation - if you’re sitting in a rink all day most days, you’re not really experiencing much of the host city / country, are you? So in a certain sense, you’re really just paying a higher price to attend the competition. Similarly, if you buy an all event and then don’t go to all the events - or arrive just in time for the contenders at one or two events, say, in order to meet friends or sightsee - then you’re not getting the full value of your tickets. I’m not saying people shouldn’t make these choices, just that either the hefty ticket cost increases the cost of the vacation substantially (if that’s your main reason for going) or the cost of flights and lodging effectively increases ticket prices substantially (if that’s your main reason for going).

As to the cost of renting the venue, organizing, etc - yes it’s an extended cost at a competition as compared to a one night event, but if you give a single concert you’re still going to have to bring in equipment, rehearse, have security, etc. - it’s not like you’re just going to waltz into the venue an hour before show time and set up. And I’m sure a tour that stops one night in Montreal likely requires a lot of organizing, too. Anyway, as I said, for me the question is whether it’s much more expensive to organize this Worlds versus the last few. That’s a valid reason to raise prices, but we don’t know if that’s what happened here.
As to 4CCs - I think people commented that it, too, was really expensive compared to prior years, and had outrageous fees. And considering that even with Groupon sales, the men’s FS was about half full to my eyes (it was the only event I was able to attend) - it was a dumb strategy on the part of USFS. But the fact those tickets as well as these Worlds tickets are so expensive does make me wonder if organizers are trying to see how much more the market will bear.

ETA I was able to attend that 4CC event because I was in LA on business, but because I arrived a night early to see the FS and rented a car to go from LA to the venue, I spent about $250-300 just to attend that event over and above the cost of my ticket because those expenses weren’t covered by my company. To be honest, I didn’t think it was worth it.
 
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I always make my skating trips a holiday. I LOVED my time in Boston.

With GP events, there is a lot of time where you are not in the rink. Worlds tends to be in a big city with good public transportation, so you can see quite a bit of the city. Of course, it all depends on the person. Besides the day of only practice sessions, I have no desire to watch practice sessions the rest of the week. And Worlds tends to begin on a Tuesday. I think a good portion of people come on the weekend, so they have time to explore before the event begins.
 
I'm a little startled the access issues weren't resolved before the ticket price announcement was made.

It's been known for a long time which arena would be used. I'd think the organizing committee would be familiar with its layout and would already have an idea of how many accessible tickets were likely to be ordered and how much maneuverability the seating areas provided.

Yes especially considering the arena seat map has accessible seating sections listed right on there.

It should only be a matter of confirming if they were going with the existing layout or not. (And I have no idea why they wouldn’t?)
 
Many of the hotels I have stayed have had a fridge and microwave. Some have had dishes too.
They have a mini-fridge. Which either doesn't have a freezer or the freezer isn't much colder than the fridge. :D

Unless you spring for a suite or stay in a suite motel. But these all tend to cost more than an AirBnB that is slightly nicer and the AirBnB's I've stayed in are full of personality, while hotels all have that hotel vibe.
 
I have been to many World Championships- in Gothenburg, fake London, Boston, Moscow, Dortmund, Helsinki, and Turin. I have considered them all holidays and had plenty of time to sightsee (well -except London, where there wasn't much to see).

That’s great - but perhaps not everyone feels the same.
 
It should only be a matter of confirming if they were going with the existing layout or not. (And I have no idea why they wouldn’t?)
I was told that I would be notified when placement and prices for seating were confirmed; therefore, I'm waiting.
 
I had asked about the seat map and the large area behind the judges that is currently indicated as "unavailable." The response I received stated that there are holds on some seats/sections, but a final version of the chart will be available before the public sale. This may be why there hasn't been any clarification on the accessible seating. I'm hoping some more seats open up on the judges' side.
 
I was told that I would be notified when placement and prices for seating were confirmed; therefore, I'm waiting.

Yes you need to wait for sure.

It should be an easy decision for the organizing committee so I’m not sure why they aren’t able to tell you yet.
 
I had asked about the seat map and the large area behind the judges that is currently indicated as "unavailable." The response I received stated that there are holds on some seats/sections, but a final version of the chart will be available before the public sale. This may be why there hasn't been any clarification on the accessible seating. I'm hoping some more seats open up on the judges' side.

I'm sorry. What I meant by "accessible" was handicap accessible.

I can certainly understand if they're waiting to determine whether all the tickets on hold will actually be purchased. What I wondered about was why they were uncertain about handicap accessibility.

My original question to Skate Canada was:

How easy/difficult is it to get to the closer to rink level seats? Is there any kind of elevator or handicap accessible approach to those seats, or is it down and up stairs? And while I'm thinking of it, are there restrooms that don't require climbing up and down multiple flights of stairs?

Their response (which is what I found puzzling) was:

There will absolutely be accessible seating; however, we have not finalized the details yet. Further information regarding accessible seating will be available as we get closer to the ticket on sale.


 
That’s great - but perhaps not everyone feels the same.

Of course not- obviously a world championships in a different city is not for you, and that's fine. We all have different things we want to do. Everyone has said that these tickets are pricey, and they are. Not everyone will want to pay the prices, but some will, and make the best of it. Vive le difference.
 
My original question to Skate Canada was:

How easy/difficult is it to get to the closer to rink level seats? Is there any kind of elevator or handicap accessible approach to those seats, or is it down and up stairs? And while I'm thinking of it, are there restrooms that don't require climbing up and down multiple flights of stairs?

Their response (which is what I found puzzling) was:

There will absolutely be accessible seating; however, we have not finalized the details yet. Further information regarding accessible seating will be available as we get closer to the ticket on sale.

That is the response I received, as well..

Please, let me know their answer to the question you asked.
Those things are important and helpful for those who need them.
 
That is the response I received, as well..

Please, let me know their answer to the question you asked.
Those things are important and helpful for those who need them.
I think that they are perhaps trying to have some more seats that are a bit more accessible, in addition to those already designated with the wheelchair symbol as being fully accessible on the seating map. I have seen an option (through a tour group) for seats at the end of the rink with few or no stairs. To me, this would imply one or two rows at the back of a section near the walkway.
 
There are 8 events. Each event is several hours long (longer than most concerts). How much would 8 Beyonce front row tickets cost?

To use a better proxy since you're using time as your measure, Worlds 2020 is 3x the price of 3 full weekend Coachella passes. That is exorbitant.

I went to Boston Worlds and it was nowhere as expensive as Montreal is.
 
Of course not- obviously a world championships in a different city is not for you, and that's fine. We all have different things we want to do. Everyone has said that these tickets are pricey, and they are. Not everyone will want to pay the prices, but some will, and make the best of it. Vive le difference.

I actually didn’t say whether a world championships in another city would be worth it to me personally, although paying a total of nearly $500 for an inconsistently called men’s FS at a lackluster 4CCs was definitely not. I have traveled for GPs and Sr Bs and enjoyed them, and I’d love to go to Montreal- I’m just not sure that for me personally this is the right choice. :)
 
I've never stayed at AirBNB. I would expect you need to leave them in the same condition in which you find them, which would mean having to do a good clean before you vacated the premises? That would be a negative for me. However, we are thinking of taking a trip to Hawaii and will have to look into AirBNB due to the high cost of accomodations there.
I don't really have anything bad to say about AirBNB...it's just that I happen to like staying in hotels (not expensive ones). My sister pretty much only uses AirBNB. Just look at the site and the accommodations. if you're fine with what you see then go for it.
 
To use a better proxy since you're using time as your measure, Worlds 2020 is 3x the price of 3 full weekend Coachella passes. That is exorbitant.

I went to Boston Worlds and it was nowhere as expensive as Montreal is.

If people wouldn't pay the exorbitant prices and the arena was largely empty, organizers might rethink the charge.

But people usually pay up for an event they want to attend - if they can.

For me it's a non-issue, as I wouldn't be able to go even if ticket prices were cheaper.
 
There are 8 events. Each event is several hours long (longer than most concerts). How much would 8 Beyonce front row tickets cost?

You can compare FS events to 8 Beyonce concerts once you get Hanyu or Yuna Kim to skate for 16 hours. Otherwise, really not a good comparison.
 
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