Coughlin's Safe Sport Status Changed to Interim Suspension

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The problem I was referring to was that when a complaint is made, the complainee is kept secret, and the person who is being accused is smeared in public. No due process. No way to disprove it.

What would have been appropriate would be: Complaint against John Coughlin being investigated.

IMO this title would allow some dignity for the man, and give people a place to voice their concerns, outrage, or whatever.

IMO, anyone who goes into a thread about a person who has died and shares the opinion that suicide is vomiting all over other people has no business going into a thread with a title that is factually true and asking that it be changed in the name of respect for the dead.

John Coughlin was suspended; whether he was guilty of something or not, that is what happened. Whether the complaint against him is still under investigation or not is unknown. And due process, as has been pointed out already, has nothing to do with what you are talking about. So I don't see any point in changing the thread title.

I understand that people undoubtedly find this thread disturbing; we've talked about closing it and will if enough people want that. But the intent was to allow people who simply want to mourn and remember him a thread for that, and this would be a thread where people could hash out their arguments over the allegations. Clearly that isn't what it happening, but that is a choice that members here can make.
 
But there's a bigger issue here......

If he assaulted someone, sexually or otherwise regardless of age, or if he sexually or physically abused minors, then this shouldn't have been an unspecified silent investigation by an outside organization with no legal standing. This should have been turned over to local law enforcement and (if minors were involved) a local child protection agency. The fact that it wasn't either means that the allegations were not criminal in nature--not assault or abuse of minors-- or SafeSport is run by Benedict XVI. So which is it?
My understanding of the current process is that the reporting party (accuser, parents, or other related party) is advised to file the report with legal authorities when required if one has not been filed already. There is now additional follow up and if it is not done, then the federation or SafeSport files the police report. I believe this step was put in place because of previously mishandled cases by clubs, federations (& probably SafeSport as well).

Your post starts with "If …", then you state a report was not filed as "fact". Have you jumped to a conclusion or do you have further information that the rest of us have not read? The sports organizations have slowly been adding processes to improve the reporting of these cases. As many here know, I don't hesitate to criticize them when they drop the ball, but that certainly can't be determined based on what I've read about this case so far. If we want organizations to protect our athletes, we also need to support the improvements they make as well, & not just lambast them based on speculation.
 
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Just from observing the posts in both threads, I think there could be a very loaded discussion about why people start really caring about supposed lack of due process and anonymity when it comes to sexual assault or crimes of a sexual nature (especially when women are victims) when other people are accused of other crimes, they are public and there have been hundreds/thousands of recorded cases of other nature where due process was severely lacking. Is it because people really think anybody anywhere can be falsely accused of sexual misconduct despite stats saying how rare it is? It does happen but given what we know about the rate of underreporting compared to other crimes and the rate of false accusations compared to other crimes, it's lower for sexual assault. Is ito because of how we perceive the accused? (Looking like upstanding men who could do no wrong).
I've taken my sleeping pill so I might not well be as coherent as I might like, but the false accusations level might not be as underreported as believed.

Let's take for an example of a manager who is in the habit of patting the buttocks of a little league player after making a good play. In the manager's mind this is a traditional gesture of approval. To the player's it's an inappropriate touch to a private part. It gets reported as sexual misconduct, and it could take several meetings before the manager, the athlete and the organization the complaint has been brought to can determine the approach that damages all the sides as little as possible. In the interim the couch is accused of sexual misconduct, not made with malice, but with a failure of understanding what gestures have been thought normal and what gestures have had their meaning changed.

To an outsider that could appear as though a legitimate claim of sexual misconduct has been swept aside, the person of power has once again driven to silence an unprotected athlete. But that wouldn't be the case at all. Still the manager bears the brunt of the false accusation. He's the one who has to confront himself and his motivations. He's the one talked about by the parents and coaches and other managers. He's the one brought to the hearing to determine if he should be allowed to coach children. He's the one who is shamed, and for doing nothing that hadn't been done to him and all his teammates, and to the teammates of coaches he knows. But now he bears the name predator and that's a charge that he will never be able to shake.

Accusations of sexual impropriety can come in a lot of different sizes and shapes. At their worst they are living horrors. But they can also be failures to communicate, free both of malice and of understanding.
 
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IMO, anyone who goes into a thread about a person who has died and shares the opinion that suicide is vomiting all over other people has no business going into a thread with a title that is factually true and asking that it be changed in the name of respect for the dead.

John Coughlin was suspended; whether he was guilty of something or not, that is what happened. Whether the complaint against him is still under investigation or not is unknown. And due process, as has been pointed out already, has nothing to do with what you are talking about. So I don't see any point in changing the thread title.

I understand that people undoubtedly find this thread disturbing; we've talked about closing it and will if enough people want that. But the intent was to allow people who simply want to mourn and remember him a thread for that, and this would be a thread where people could hash out their arguments over the allegations. Clearly that isn't what it happening, but that is a choice that members here can make.

I appreciate the thread not being closed off. I think this is an important discussion to be had. I had posted this earlier in the thread:

I want to start by saying I don’t think this thread should be closed. There are skaters who post in here and ending all conversation basically tells them to be quiet. Silence on matters like this is how situations wind up not being reported.

Discussions that deal with sensitive topics are generally closed quick. This thread is probably difficult to monitor. Thank you for keeping it open.

Edited to remove a response to someone else. That discussion was going nowhere.
 
I've taken my sleeping pill so I might not well be as coherent as I might like, but the false accusations level might not be as underreported as believed.

Let's take for an example of a manager who is in the habit of patting the buttocks of a little league player after making a good play. In the manager's mind this is a traditional gesture of approval. To the player's it's an inappropriate touch to a private part. It gets reported as sexual misconduct, and it could take several meetings before the manager, the athlete and the organization the complaint has been brought to can determine the approach that damages all the sides as little as possible. In the interim the couch is accused of sexual misconduct, not made with malice, but with a failure of understanding what gestures have been thought normal and what gestures have had their meaning changed.

To an outsider that could appear as though a legitimate claim of sexual misconduct has been swept aside, the person of power has once again driven to silence an unprotected athlete. But that wouldn't be the case at all. Still the manager bears the brunt of the false accusation. He's the one who has to confront himself and his motivations. He's the one talked about by the parents and coaches and other managers. He's the one brought to the hearing to determine if he should be allowed to coach children. He's the one who is shamed, and for doing nothing that hadn't been done to him and all his teammates, and to the teammates of coaches he knows. But now he bears the name predator and that's a charge that he will never be able to shake.

Accusations of sexual impropriety can come in a lot of different sizes and shapes. At their worst they are living horrors. But they can also be failures to communicate, free both of malice and of understanding.

I don't understand how any of your hypotheticals challenge the statistic conducted by criminologists that sexual assault crimes have been historically severely underreported and that false accusations are low. They control for factors as well as best as possible. I also think your hypotheticals sort of paint survivors and those who share their story of sexual assault as silly people.

https://psmag.com/news/false-report...y-is-there-so-little-reliable-data-about-them

What we do know is this: False reports are rare, ranging from 2 to 10 percent of all reported sexual assaults. This figure comes from a commonly cited 2010 study, published in the peer-reviewed international journal Violence Against Women. This meta-analysis evaluated more than 20 previous studies and concluded that most misrepresent the rate of false reporting by not accounting for police departments' mistakes. (The researchers also conducted their own study, based on 10 years of reports at a single university—rare for a field that relies on Federal Bureau of Investigation data—putting the rate of false reporting at just under 6 percent.) "The greater the scrutiny applied to police classifications, the lower the rate of false reporting detected," study author David Lisak writes. "Cumulatively, these findings contradict the still widely promulgated stereotype that false rape allegations are a common occurrence."

Why is there so much disagreement? For one, researchers relying on federal data often conflate "unfounded" reports—when law enforcement labels an accusation false or "baseless"—with entirely false ones. The FBI's broad label of "unfounded" includes accusations that have been investigated and dismissed as not meeting legal criteria, without being proven false. This confusion results in inflated numbers, the kind Kavanaugh's defenders cite—such as one debunked study that puts prevalence at 41 percent.
Drawing from the last published Uniform Crime Reporting data on "unfounded" reports in 1996, the FBI says the unfounded rate for "forcible rape," at 8 percent, is higher than the average for all other crimes measured, at 2 percent. However, the agency has since modified its guidelines to narrow this definition. Criminal justice professor Philip Rumney, writing in the Cambridge Law Journal in 2006, questions these numbers, which come from law enforcement agencies across the United States: "Among such a large number of agencies there is likely to be a significant variation in recording practice," he writes, citing the Philadelphia Police Department, which "dumped cases," labeling them "unfounded," in order to "reduce workload" for nearly two decades.
This was no isolated incident. As Lisak explains, FBI data is often unreliable:
Despite these guidelines, numerous studies have discovered that the misclassification of cases by law enforcement agencies is routine. Cases in which the victim is unable or unwilling to cooperate, in which evidence is lacking, in which the victim makes inconsistent statements, or in which the victim was heavily intoxicated frequently get classified as 'unfounded' or 'no-crimed.'​
Even agencies that do not deliberately mislabel accusations make mistakes: Officials often misclassify accusations that have been delayed, or dismiss contradictions in a victim's statement as falsehoods—even though these inconsistencies are often the "artifact of police interviewing techniques," as researchers write in one 2012 study. According to the National Sexual Violence Resource Center, police departments are urged, but not required, to exclude reports such as these from their count; research shows that they often do not.
In the end, reports labeled "false" can be very dangerous—but for victims of sexual assault, not the "young men of America." Misconceptions about false reporting contribute to underreporting, a very real and widespread phenomenon. If you believed police, pundits, and the president will dismiss your account without proving it false, why would you report it?

It's tied to the fact they are severely underreported.

http://www.brennancenter.org/blog/sexual-assault-remains-dramatically-underreported

Probably for the same reasons that nearly 80 percent of rapes and sexual assaults go unreported, according to a Justice Department analysis of violent crime in 2016. The reality is, it’s very common for sexual assault survivors — most frequently, women — to decline to report the offense to police. At the same time, false accusations of rape or sexual assault are rare. And that should inform how we weigh Dr. Ford’s allegations, as well as those of other survivors.

It may sound incredible that only around 23 percent of survivors report such crimes to police, but it’s true. And that number is in line with past reports: Surveys of 2014 and 2015 both put reporting rates for rape and sexual assault in the low 30s. (A history of low reporting rates is one reason the Brennan Center declines to analyze trends in sexual assault in our crime reports. And low reporting rates don’t detract from the broader conclusions to those reports, that crime and violent crime remain historically low.)

There are tons of scholarly work done on this.
 
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I mostly let my opinion known this morning (in U.S. time) which included my desire for this thread to close. I haven’t been posting since then but have kept reading. It’s quite a heartbreaking experience to see posters that I have seen post on this forum since my time on here take such a narrow minded approach to this issue. So I hope this thread does stay open, it opened my eyes to things I didn’t expect, maybe that’s the point, something isn’t fake just because you do not expect them.
 
Let's take for an example of a manager who is in the habit of patting the buttocks of a little league player after making a good play. In the manager's mind this is a traditional gesture of approval.

Then the manager thought wrong, which isn't a defense.

Just like there are men who think it's okay to push sex on a woman because they believe 'yes' means 'no' (hopefully less than there once were). This was particularly the case when I was a high school student and young adult in the 70s, before 'date rape' was even a concept. So many girls/young women were date raped, but never spoke of it. They knew they had been violated, but had no language for speaking about it, and often no recourse to get help/counselling.

It's about an abuse of power and about entitlement. The President of the United States thinking that he's entitled to grope woman just because he can, due to his wealth and power. This is just one very recent example.

In the interim the couch is accused of sexual misconduct, not made with malice, but with a failure of understanding what gestures have been thought normal and what gestures have had their meaning changed.

I don't think that patting someone on the butt or similar gestures ever had a different meaning. Women and men endured it because they had no recourse, but it was still a violation.

Your logic is entirely twisted. Just because a person thinks that sexual misconduct is 'normal' doesn't make it any less an act of sexual misconduct.

To an outsider that could appear as though a legitimate claim of sexual misconduct has been swept aside, the person of power has once again driven to silence an unprotected athlete.

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Um, it tends to be the victims of sexual misconduct who are silenced, not the people in power who abuse or harass them. Sexual misconduct and rape are very under-reported.

He's the one brought to the hearing to determine if he should be allowed to coach children. He's the one who is shamed, and for doing nothing that hadn't been done to him and all his teammates, and to the teammates of coaches he knows. But now he bears the name predator and that's a charge that he will never be able to shake.

Would you want your child (real or hypothetical) to have a coach who patted him or her on the butt?

And if said coach and said coach's teammates had the same done to them, that doesn't make their actions any less wrong or damaging.

You are talking about individuals committing an act of sexual harassment against minors or young people. And you are concerned about the long-term impact should those individuals be found out and charged or if not charged, punished or made to take account in certain ways.

What about the long-term impacts for the victims?

But they can also be failures to communicate, free both of malice and of understanding.

Please. I have never inappropriately patted anyone on the bottom (and not had that done to me, but had other unpleasant experiences like being whistled at or cat-called). And that's not just because I'm a woman. Plenty of men have also never inappropriately touched other people's buttocks.

Not engaging in the behaviour is simple matter of respect, and is really not that hard to learn.

Your post brings this song to mind. I've posted it before and many here may have seen it here or elsewhere. It's worth posting again - very much on point.

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/...-singer-goes-viral-with-parody-song-1.3658574
 
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Just from observing the posts in both threads, I think there could be a very loaded discussion about why people start really caring about supposed lack of due process and anonymity when it comes to sexual assault or crimes of a sexual nature (especially when women are victims) when other people are accused of other crimes, they are public and there have been hundreds/thousands of recorded cases of other nature where due process was severely lacking. Is it because people really think anybody anywhere can be falsely accused of sexual misconduct despite stats saying how rare it is? It does happen but given what we know about the rate of underreporting compared to other crimes and the rate of false accusations compared to other crimes, it's lower for sexual assault. Is it because of how we perceive the accused? (Looking like upstanding men who could do no wrong).
I’ve been thinking about this too. I think it’s because other types of false accusations can be quickly disproven, but this type of accusation, if false, could be quite hard to disprove - while the life of the accused is being progressively affected. I mean, let’s think about it: this person mugged me — ok, what did you lose? This person damaged my property - ok let’s see the damage. This person conned me - ok lets see the paper/money trail. This person didn’t fulfill their contractual duties - ok let’s see the contract...
So I don’t think you need to hypothesize any malign motives here regarding why some are concerned about the need for due process. Just the fear that anyone can be accused any time, and it would be hard to disprove it, even if you are truly innocent. Sexual misconduct is a rather unusual case where there may be no harder evidence than she said, he said.
 
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Suppose a suspension or a formal accusation *wasn't* made public, and then it was discovered that someone under investigation - not convicted - of inappropriate behavior was working in a job where they had power over children's athletic careers and that also involved physical contact with children. The screaming in here about protecting the innocent children would blow the roof off.

When there's a balance between interests that has to be made in these situations, the most protection should always go towards those who are most vulnerable. In a situation like coaching, those who are potentially most vulnerable are the young athletes. Part of protecting them is notifying those who need to know about coaches (or others) with complaints against them.

Also, every day newspapers, television broadcasts, Internet posts, Tweets, etc. are full of stories that contain wording like "Jane Doe, 35, of Everytown was charged with [name of crime] and will appear in court on [date]". Jane Doe hasn't been convicted, but her name and what she's accused of is being made public. That's legal, and it's part of the public record. And Jane might lose her job or have trouble getting a job because of that information.

I really don't understand this argument that people accused of misbehavior toward athletes deserve more anonymity than people facing accusations in the justice system.
 
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Relatedly (as a scientist and statistician), I wonder what the ‘false alarm’ rate is for other kinds of crimes. How often does someone get falsely accused of murder, theft, robbery, assault, financial crimes, etc? (I should specify I mean accusations made by one or a few private individuals, not by the state.) 2-8% false accusation rate seems very low compared to ‘founded accusations’ and ‘under reporting’ rates, but how does it compare to false accusation rate of other crimes? This is important, because if you think some person is out to get you, when you haven’t done anything wrong, then you might fear an accusation of sexual misconduct could be the most expedient way.

I’m not saying anything about Coughlin was or wasn’t innocent, or commenting on whether there was or wasn’t due process in this case. I’m also not assuming the accusations against Coughlin were sexual or not. I really hope no one will be offended by what I am trying to say. I’m just offering an alternative view on why some might be more reluctant than others to immediately accept every charge of sexual misconduct as credible, while not being driven by malice or misogyny.

We humans are often more driven by fear than anything else.
 
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The SafeSport disciplinary records make a distinction between complaints (in process or resolved) involving sexual misconduct and complaints involving other kinds of misconduct.

Here is the page where you can see the records:
https://safesport.org/userviolations/search

Type "Figure Skating" into the "sport" box on the right-hand side of the heading to see the cases involving skating. Coughlin's case is listed as "allegations of misconduct".
 
Relatedly (as a scientist and statistician), I wonder what the ‘false alarm’ rate is for other kinds of crimes. How often does someone get falsely accused of murder, theft, robbery, assault, financial crimes, etc? (I should specify I mean accusations made by one or a few private individuals, not by the state.) 2-8% false accusation rate seems very low compared to ‘founded accusations’ and ‘under reporting’ rates, but how does it compare to false accusation rate of other crimes? This is important, because if you think some person is out to get you, when you haven’t done anything wrong, then you might fear an accusation of sexual misconduct could be the most expedient way.

People are often wrongly accused of all sorts of crimes, though I don't know the percentages and don't have time to research them right now.

As previously stated, most rapes and acts of sexual harrasment do not get reported. According to this article for the BBC, only 35% reported.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45565684

How many people don't report crimes of theft or financial misdeeds that have been committed against them?

You are really comparing apples and oranges.

And people are unlikely to advance a charge of sexual harassment in order to just get even with someone who has done them wrong in some way. It's a hugely stressful and time-consuming thing to do, the complainant is unlikely to be believed in the absence of solid evidence (which is usually unavailable), the accused will most likely get off should the case be investigated or tried, and the accuser may be shamed and demeaned. Dr. Ford got death threats for coming forward about Kavanaugh, and her motives were genuine.

I’m just offering an alternative view on why some might be more reluctant than others to immediately accept every charge of sexual misconduct as credible, while not being driven by malice or misogyny.

Oh, that's rich. Woman are charging men with sexual misconduct because they are malicious or misogynistic. In saying that, you deny the prevalence and severity of sexual harassment in the workplace, include sports workplaces.
You are trivializing a serious matter and engaging in victim-blaming.

And even if women are malicious or misogynistic, it would not follow that this would lead them to put forth a sexual harassment allegation because of the reasons mentioned above.

And you do know that very few men of the total male population are actually ever accused of sexual misconduct? The number is far fewer than the incidences of sexual misconduct, because so many such incidences go unreported. The the number of those accused who actually are investigated or have their tried are even fewer. And among those, the number who receive any sort of punishment yet even fewer.

We humans are often more driven by fear than anything else.

Throughout the world many women live in fear of men, because they have no recourse should a man harm, violate or threaten them.

In some parts of the world women fear advancing a sexual harassment allegation because it would put their jobs on their line. And fear bosses/colleagues who do not respect them.
 
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There has been debate over how TSL and CB reported Coughlin's suspension.

What would everyone's opinion be if TSL and CB restricted its reporting to saying only that he was suspended by USFS and then refusing to address the subject at all?
 
Just from observing the posts in both threads, I think there could be a very loaded discussion about why people start really caring about supposed lack of due process and anonymity when it comes to sexual assault or crimes of a sexual nature (especially when women are victims) when other people are accused of other crimes, they are public and there have been hundreds/thousands of recorded cases of other nature where due process was severely lacking. Is it because people really think anybody anywhere can be falsely accused of sexual misconduct despite stats saying how rare it is? It does happen but given what we know about the rate of underreporting compared to other crimes and the rate of false accusations compared to other crimes, it's lower for sexual assault. Is it because of how we perceive the accused? (Looking like upstanding men who could do no wrong).
My sense is that the idea that someone we know (even if it's just their public image) being the perpetrator of sexual violence is so horrifying that people often want to see really solid evidence before labeling them as such. It's true that this approach can and does undermine survivors who come forward. On the other hand, even though the rate of false claims/errors is low, I can't imagine how awful it must be to end up among the small percentage who are falsely accused and sometimes wrongfully convicted.

Some people are able to come through such an experience and move on with their lives. Others are more fragile. I don't know what the best way is to publicly handle investigations like this.
 
I'm not blaming the accuser, I don't have to know the person's identity. I just want an explanation from SafeSport why they had to change Jon's status from "Restricted" to "Interim Suspension." He died next day. There must be a reason for the status change.
 
The SafeSport disciplinary records make a distinction between complaints (in process or resolved) involving sexual misconduct and complaints involving other kinds of misconduct.

Here is the page where you can see the records:
https://safesport.org/userviolations/search

Type "Figure Skating" into the "sport" box on the right-hand side of the heading to see the cases involving skating. Coughlin's case is listed as "allegations of misconduct".

Thank you for posting this. I had trouble getting the database to respond, but when I did, it gave me a list of people in many states and various sports. I didn’t review all of the records closely, but it looks to me like the general “allegations of misconduct” is used while someone is under an interim suspension- that is, before there is a final disposition of the case - and that details (E.g., sexual misconduct, criminal disposition - sexual misconduct, criminal disposition - intimate behavior with a minor, etc.) are provided later. It also lists the adjudicating body, which is not always SafeSport (sometimes it’s the federation).
 
TSL posted an interview with a woman that used to be a skater and has been involved with SafeSport investigations. She was interviewed for John's investigation, and SafeSport was investigating since at least mid-October. They didn't publish a restriction on their website until around Dec 17. She stated the investigation goes through many channels before a public notice is posted. So basically it's more than just someone making a complaint and a restriction being placed immediately.
 
Delilah Sappenfeld has started a GoFundMe to help cover funeral and legal expenses.
 
They should elaborate more. Anyone can say "We found enough evidence to corroborate the accuser's claims" if you don't have to prove it.
They don't have to prove it to the general public. Information was provided to the appropriate parties which prompted the actions by said parties. Otherwise any information would have to be subpoenaed. If you go to their webpage, there are multiple pdf files explaining the organization, their authority (given by the IOC), and other information that is available to the public.
 
The SafeSport disciplinary records make a distinction between complaints (in process or resolved) involving sexual misconduct and complaints involving other kinds of misconduct.

Here is the page where you can see the records:
https://safesport.org/userviolations/search

Type "Figure Skating" into the "sport" box on the right-hand side of the heading to see the cases involving skating. Coughlin's case is listed as "allegations of misconduct".

Thank you for that link. Now I'm curious. I knew Richard Callaghan had an interim suspension. His category is listed the same as John's, allegations of misconduct. Has what he was accused of ever been disclosed? John might have been under this cloud for a very long time. It seems to me that more must be done to speed up the process for the sake of both the accused and the accuser. Closure along with transparency is important.
 
I'm not blaming the accuser, I don't have to know the person's identity. I just want an explanation from SafeSport why they had to change Jon's status from "Restricted" to "Interim Suspension." He died next day. There must be a reason for the status change.

I wonder if the act of bringing the case to the attention of the public put some heat on SafeSport?
 
They don't have to prove it to the general public. Information was provided to the appropriate parties which prompted the actions by said parties. Otherwise any information would have to be subpoenaed. If you go to their webpage, there are multiple pdf files explaining the organization, their authority (given by the IOC), and other information that is available to the public.

So, guilty unless proven innocent, then.
 
I think it makes sense to have a restriction/suspension in place throughout the investigative process, not different types of restrictions that can lead to unfounded speculation.

If the accusations have been corroborated, it makes more sense to schedule a hearing and make a final decision than to play around with semantics.
 
I'm confused what people want from SafeSport.

They are angry the allegations were made public before an investigation was complete, but are also angry the specifics of the allegations weren't made public so John could defend himself.

Would you rather parents and the skating community remained in the dark about a suspended coach under investigation for sexual misconduct? He was not denied due process. He was in the middle of due process. He decided to commit suicide as due process and an investigation was underway.
 
So, guilty unless proven innocent, then.
Safesport is not a court of law. They have been conducting an investigation since mid October, apparently, and following the procedure set out by the IOC and the various athletic federations, posted status based on the information they found. It is then up to the Federations to act. Moreover, they clearly state, if there are legal issues, particularly possible criminal charges, those are handled by law enforcement. Those would be handled in a court of law. Whether or not there were pending legal issues, is not indicated on SafeSport. You'd have to look at court dockets to determine those if you feel a burning need to know. People are totally confusing legal issues and ethics. And given that Coughlin had extensive legal expenses, ergo Sappenfeld's GoFundMe, he was represented by council who would have most assuredly told him to say nothing to the press. He was kept informed all along.
 
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I'm confused what people want from SafeSport.

They are angry the allegations were made public before an investigation was complete, but are also angry the specifics of the allegations weren't made public so John could defend himself.

Would you rather parents and the skating community remained in the dark about a suspended coach under investigation for sexual misconduct? He was not denied due process. He was in the middle of due process. He decided to commit suicide as due process and an investigation was underway.
It is all technically correct. But people don't just "decide to commit suicide." Regardless of the outcome of the investigation, he felt that his life was over. I don't believe anyone thinks the potential / actual victims should not be protected. It doesn't mean that a suicide is some sort of an easy routine decision either. The level of despair and pain the person has to suffer to commit suicide is immense. John as a human being, good or bad, was not irrelevant.
 
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