Tinami Amori
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Can i ask you a question? do you know how to keep a fool in suspense?
Adam speaks his mind on US leader chosen for the Oympic delegation
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Bulletsdad
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Adam's twitter feed has been advocating for gay rights for several years. Stop deflecting with the torture of Muslim gays, because it doesn't make lesser abuses by Putin and Pence any more acceptable. I seriously think that Putin & Trump supporters have serious mental deficiencies which result in unbridled tribalism and fear of the "other."
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Not true. If you followed him on social media you would know this.
He tweeted about Chechnya last April: https://twitter.com/Adaripp/status/855522856037470209
Brennan is the one driving this particular story line.
He has been, based on what I've seen and read online about his practices so far.
I chuckled at the headline: https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...-rippon-at-the-2018-winter-olympics/23355715/ (ETA that she mentioned Adam & Gus Kenworthy around the 7-minute mark of her video)
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Red Hot Chili Keegan
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Hmm, that's a tough question. I'll think about it and get back to you tomorrow.
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There is an old Russian saying about this: When failed Presidential candidate engages her mouth in left-wing flapping to support convenient homosexual with no quads, it is even clearer she should retire from all public presences and return to true role of being keeper of the household flame.
Tinami Amori
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I seriously think that anti-Trumpers and anti-Republicans have serious mental deficiencies which result in unbridled tribalism and fear of the "other." Not only they have fear, given all the lefty hysterics, they are willing to play dirty and engage in all sorts of foul and illegal tactics because they can't accept the election results.
Fair enough. accepted. yet Chechnya gets only 1 tweet, but "ancient Pence issue" gets 2-3 national interviews/comments...
Adam should take a look at "Clinton news" as old as "Pence's gay cure"... and be ashamed of Clinton's support...
"NY state should NOT recognize Gay Marriage"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ggS-WyIWw
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Red Hot Chili Keegan
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Fair enough. accepted. yet Chechnya gets only 1 tweet, but "ancient Pence issue" gets 2-3 national interviews/comments...
Next time I'm sure Adam will try to arrange for the Chechnya issue to happen right before the Olympics when journalists will be most interested in his comments.
(I think I understand expensive publicity stunt now!)
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This is Adam's thread, not Clinton's, but she has grown in her thinking and fully supports equal marriage. Many Americans opinions have changed over the years. If Pence had evolved to do the same his past comments would likely not be held against him.
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I seriously think that anti-Trumpers and anti-Republicans have serious mental deficiencies which result in unbridled tribalism and fear of the "other." Not only they have fear, given all the lefty hysterics, they are willing to play dirty and engage in all sorts of foul and illegal tactics because they can't accept the election results.
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Fair enough. accepted. yet Chechnya gets only 1 tweet, but "ancient Pence issue" gets 2-3 national interviews/comments...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...trated-u-s-voter-systems-says-top-u-s-n845721
More dirty play from this liberal American who doesn't believe that Putin has the US's best interests at heart. Maybe it's "fake news" like the McLaren report. Well, Mueller will be putting an end to Putin/Trump's "plausible deniability" over the next few months. All that money laundering left a bad residue of soap scum....or should I say scum.
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Not only that, but marriage is far from the only issue affecting LGBTQ individuals and we all know which Presidential candidate would have been much more progressive on that front especially after the crap this administration tried to pull in rolling back LGBTQ rights in the past year.
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Last time Pence brought up the issue dates back to 2000, when Pence was running for Congress. Clinton's last anti-Gay Marriage speech was in 2002 and 2004....
You're reading the wrong news.... it is almost proven that Dems hired the Russians...
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Either you're being facetious or you're getting your news from rt.com.Last time Pence brought up the issue dates back to 2000, when Pence was running for Congress. Clinton's last anti-Gay Marriage speech was in 2002 and 2004....
You're reading the wrong news.... it is almost proven that Dems hired the Russians...
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This isn't even a little bit true.
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2 tweets from VP Pence's Twitter a few hours ago:
https://twitter.com/VP/status/961465775444971521
ETA: https://wintergames.ap.org/article/latest-skater-says-hed-be-open-meeting-pence
https://twitter.com/VP/status/961465775444971521
https://twitter.com/VP/status/961466229671284736
Gus Kenworthy was on The Ellen Show recently and she brought up the topic around the 3-minute mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWhqHJtvbPo
ETA: https://wintergames.ap.org/article/latest-skater-says-hed-be-open-meeting-pence
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A bit late to this, but Lorenz/Polizoakis medalled at an ISU event (Nebelhorn 2017) and you can watch them at the Olympics
Point taken
(PS. Out gay guys who medal at ISU events are all from North America. tee-hee)
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I would think he does know who Adam is and knows what he said. Olympic athletes are high profile, and Adam's statement was strong enough to get some attention.
And of course, his idiot boss watches TV 24/7 and is always on the look-out for real or imagined slights. Slights to his VP might flicker across his mind in one of the many few-second periods that constitute his attention spans.
Anyone can stand in the middle of the street and yell "I will never visit Queen Elizabeth in her palace"..... but first one has to be invited....
I think it's quite common for Olympic teams to be invited to meet their government in its institution of practice.
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It's so weird how straight people think it's a "political" issue, when you don't want to hang out with someone who hates the fact you exist. Like it's something you can separate from yourself, and your life, and should suck up, for... what, exactly, in return?
To go back to another discussion, it's also weird to me how people seem to think of being "out" as some sort of one-time international registration that you send off a form to, and recieve your gay card, and forehead brand so everyone knows forever after. I'm sure there are tons of athletes from loads of countries (where it's safe to be out), who are out to their friends and family, but no one from the media cares enough to ask, or people didn't read where they said it, etc. To add to the list of European guys, Alexander Majorov has mentioned being gay in interviews (though of course he doesn't get to go to Olympics this year, ghh)
To go back to another discussion, it's also weird to me how people seem to think of being "out" as some sort of one-time international registration that you send off a form to, and recieve your gay card, and forehead brand so everyone knows forever after. I'm sure there are tons of athletes from loads of countries (where it's safe to be out), who are out to their friends and family, but no one from the media cares enough to ask, or people didn't read where they said it, etc. To add to the list of European guys, Alexander Majorov has mentioned being gay in interviews (though of course he doesn't get to go to Olympics this year, ghh)
When Dutch speed skater Ireen Wust won her Olympic medals, the press didn't focus on her sexuality at all. Same with Swedish alpine skier Anja Paerson. Wonder if there is some differences b/t women vs. men in this regard.
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Well I guess you are the expert on that topic.
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i do not understand why the press is always referring to Adam as the first openly gay olympic athlete. two speed skaters, Blake Skellerup and Keith Carney were both "out" at the sochi olympics and there is another athlete , a canadian Anastasia Boucsis that has been out long before Adam. maybe more.... i am not sure.The media has had a field day with Adam being the first out gay athlete to compete at the Olympics. I'm sure he'll get all the gay-related questions now.
Pence tho
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There likely is difference in men and women. Generally LGBTQ women in the Olympics either don't get mentioned as being so or are mentioned just in passing. From my time at a very conservative college, I would surmise to say that's because (a hopefully small subset) some men think of lesbians as desirable, as if they exist for their fantasies, but being a gay man is disgusting.
It is also probably a societal thing. The US is completely hung up on this, whereas the Dutch and Swedish probably aren't- or maybe they are for men? I don't really know. But because the US has such a religious culture, there are so many people, many in our government, who think being gay is WRONG.
Also, in general, gender non-conforming women are accepted in US society, when gender non-conforming men are less so. We hear a lot about where trans-women should be going the bathroom. No one seems to care about the trans-men (mostly in that they don't think about it. Probably the same people would think that is "icky"). We hear tons about how little girls can play with trucks, and should be outdoorsy and rough and that's awesome and great; little boys are rarely encouraged to play with Barbies or have dance parties in tutus.
People, even in this thread, boil this issue down to who you have sex with. It's not. It's about not having to hide who you are. Everyone I work with knows I'm straight. I have photos of my husband at my desk. Until a few years ago, gay coworkers likely didn't feel comfortable doing the same. Growing up, Adam felt he had to hide who he was. He wants to be a role model for little boys hoping they don't do the same thing. I know a skater who was not out when I knew him. When he came out, his mother blamed a gay coach for making her son gay. He and the coach never had any sort of relationship, it was just that the coach was out and secure in who he was. My understanding is the mother has since come around and supports her son; but people still have to deal with this. So coming out is a big deal. Maybe some day it won't be, because it will just be a norm, so no one needs to know it is OK to go public. But for now, there are children, and adults, who do need that.
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It is being mis-reported/mis-represented. The original reports say Adam is the first openly gay *US* Olympic athlete.
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Don't feed the troll. Pence is now calling Adam's position as "Fake News"...that Christine Brennan dreamed it up. Adam's mother called up CNN to refute Pence's nonsense this morning and also to complain about Repubs. and Trump admin calling anything they do not like as "Fake News"
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So is Pence trying to say he never supported conversion therapy or is the claim more like he's an ally to the GLBTQ+ community?
The former would be kind of like the Pope saying he wasn't Catholic, but the latter would be more like the Pope saying that nothing unsavory has ever been done in the history of humanity in the name of Catholicism and/or any other religion or ideology or non-ideological reason.
The former would be kind of like the Pope saying he wasn't Catholic, but the latter would be more like the Pope saying that nothing unsavory has ever been done in the history of humanity in the name of Catholicism and/or any other religion or ideology or non-ideological reason.
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No Pence is denying that Adam has a problem with Pence's anti-gay leanings and wants nothing to do with him. Hes says that is "Fake News" and he wishes Adam the best in his competition.
Bucsis is the only one of the three that was out while competing at the Olympics (she did that in Sochi).
Skjellerup came out shortly after he competed in short track in Vancouver in 2010, but did not qualify in 2014. He will be competing in Pyeongchang.
Carney did compete at the U.S. Speed Skating Trials in 2006 and 2010, but never officially qualified for an Olympic team.
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Here's Pence's point in TPM: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pence-argues-reporter-gay-olympian-story
I think anyone trying to deny equality or service to an LGBT person is anti-gay even without reference to conversion 'therapy' and obviously many agree. I'm surprised Pence is even taking this on, it's a losing story for him.
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Why isn't this in the trash can?
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Got it. So we've now reached the point where Pence et al. are using the term "fake news" like the Smurfs use "Smurf."
"All of us here at the fake news support all the American figure fake news as they attempt to fake news in South KorFakeNewsea. Even though it's fake news that Rippon without his quads even made it to fake news, I'm sure watching his 'Fake News' (house remix) SP will convert the fake news administration to become fake news and join FSU with the user name Fakenews. It is only a matter of time before fakenewsoverrated appears and gets subsequently banned, which will also be fake news."
Anyway, good to see Kelly Rippon fighting the good fight.
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Im at work and still can't believe all the press still making headlines on Rippon.
Wasnt pence existing Governor of indiana a few years back when it was going for the "no gay" law like North Carolina briefly had?
You could hang up signs that say "No Gays" because of your religion...
these straight people are comedy... Really queens? Where are your "No single Mother", "No Divorced", "No Divorced and remarried", "No divorced and twice remarried", "No divorced and thrice remarried", "No people wearing mixed blends," "No people who have ever touched a football," "No people who ate shrimp" signs?
Oh... they are cherry pickers?
Oh they only pick out of the man-written bible at what doesn't apply to them... Oh OK got it.....
Wasnt pence existing Governor of indiana a few years back when it was going for the "no gay" law like North Carolina briefly had?
You could hang up signs that say "No Gays" because of your religion...
these straight people are comedy... Really queens? Where are your "No single Mother", "No Divorced", "No Divorced and remarried", "No divorced and twice remarried", "No divorced and thrice remarried", "No people wearing mixed blends," "No people who have ever touched a football," "No people who ate shrimp" signs?
Oh... they are cherry pickers?
Oh they only pick out of the man-written bible at what doesn't apply to them... Oh OK got it.....