IOC's decision: (clean) Russian athletes can compete under neutral flag at PyeongChang Olympics

[caseyedwards]

Bobrova could say
She was only “provisionally suspended” for an Aaf! She never had a adrv. Never was suspended!!

 

[lala]

More speculations, as if it hasn’t been enough:
Artem Patsaev, a lawyer, who works with Russian athletes (and if I remember correctly, he was the one who helped Yulia Efimova before Rio Olympics) wrote on his Facebook page that we may expect some “good news” on January, 30-31.

 

[BlueRidge]

I didn't miss your point. You blamed the I.O.C. for reaching an agreement with a corrupt organization. That was unnecessary. It is possible to criticize a corrupt organization without criticizing third parties who had to deal with it.

No you did not understand my point at all. And you didn't understand my clarification. C'est la vie. Let it go.

 

[Anyasnake]

https://twitter.com/olyphil/status/956960548092039170

Whole list : Saturday, 7 p.m Seoul time, 4 a.m Chicago Time (5 a.m ET)

 

[jersey1302]

I think Bobrova needs to attempt to reach out to the IOC to clarify her situation. Somethings like this might be dealt with on a single even basis as needed. Id hope anyways.

 

[BlueRidge]

My guess is she has the legal advice she needs.

 

[jersey1302]

My guess is she has the legal advice she needs.

is there anyways you can find that out? Id love to know whats happening. Probably not released yet.

 

[Tinami Amori]

So if someone had been suspended and was cleared later, like Bobrova, is she still able to truthfully sign that document?

As it was discovered later, she was "falsely accused" not simply "cleared".

 

[VGThuy]

I don’t get why they would have to sign a document saying those things when they were already approved and invited after going through what is seemingly a stringent vetting process.

 

[casken]

They might not want to make Bobrova an issue becuase they don't want to draw attention to the whole "You're banned! Whoops, no you're not! Sorry you missed the World Championships (and probably the WTT)! Our bad!" situation.

Not a good look when you're currently banning people without explanation, while insisting that it's justified.

 

[Rina RUS]

with Serbian flags...
Serbian flags are allowed, aren't they?
https://pp.userapi.com/c543108/v543108737/3a802/68dYUC32I4E.jpg

 

[jersey1302]

lol.. im sure the fans can bring anything they want unless the IOC is putting a ban on fans bringing in russian flags??

 

[millyskate]

https://www.rt.com/sport/416968-russian-flag-fans-not-prohibited-olympics/
They actually thought about banning them but realised this was impractical.

 

[caseyedwards]

In all the major Russian news sources I looked at this flag issue was on all of them! It’s now a major victory for Russia! Lol. A victory over the west!

 

[Tinami Amori]

https://www.rt.com/sport/416968-russian-flag-fans-not-prohibited-olympics/
They actually thought about banning them but realised this was impractical.

yes, because all one needs to do is at least one of 3 things -

Bring Slovenia or Slovakia Flags (and fold over the emblem):
http://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/custom-icon-design/flat-europe-flag/512/Slovakia-icon.png
http://shop.flagshop.com/media/cata...8d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/l/flag-world-slovenia.gif
Or bring 3 long scarfs: white, blue and red, and hold them together... (with pins or else).
Or, fan can wear: white hat, blue sweater, red pants..

In all the major Russian news sources I looked at this flag issue was on all of them! It’s now a major victory for Russia! Lol. A victory over the west!

Russia won over the West, when for the "West" a silly thing like "Russian flag" became an issue of concern....

 

[caseyedwards]

If any Russian Figure skater accepts anything that is discovered had a Russian flag somewhere on it They can be be disqualified.

So best to be safe to skip accepting anything thrown on the ice.

https://www.insidethegames.biz/arti...ource=internal&utm_medium=vr&utm_campaign=tsb

Retweeting or favoriting a tweet that mentions Russia is banned

 

[victorskid]

I don’t get why they would have to sign a document saying those things when they were already approved and invited after going through what is seemingly a stringent vetting process.

Just to clarify - the form that Phil Hersh shared is one for officials to sign, not athletes.

 

[caseyedwards]

Just to clarify - the form that Phil Hersh shared is one for officials to sign, not athletes.

Clearly says for athletes. There are two

Integrity Declaration for Athletes
Olympic Athlete from Russia (OAR)

https://stillmed.olympic.org/media/...1/Integrity-Declaration-Form-OAR-Athletes.pdf

 

[Tinami Amori]

If any Russian Figure skater accepts anything that is discovered had a Russian flag somewhere on it They can be be disqualified.

So best to be safe to skip accepting anything thrown on the ice.

https://www.insidethegames.biz/arti...ource=internal&utm_medium=vr&utm_campaign=tsb

Retweeting or favoriting a tweet that mentions Russia is banned

Don't be silly...... They can say "Russia" as long as it is "athlete from Russia" vs. "athlete from Russian Federation"..... people lost their mind, but at least it's funny...

 

[VGThuy]

Just to clarify - the form that Phil Hersh shared is one for officials to sign, not athletes.

I think this one is clearly for the athletes to sign:

https://stillmed.olympic.org/media/...1/Integrity-Declaration-Form-OAR-Athletes.pdf

 

[caseyedwards]

Happy to see bedroom behavior is being regulated too

OAR members will, however, be allowed to display the Russian flag in their bedrooms providing it is not "publicly visible".

 

[jersey1302]

victory over the west.. LOL.. I really dont think its about the western world. This is about them being fair and sport. Period. They are changing the focus on the ban to them winning their freedom to show flags. Its a joke.

 

[missing]

Has anything been announced about Russian skating judges?

 

[victorskid]

I think this one is clearly for the athletes to sign:

https://stillmed.olympic.org/media/Document Library/OlympicOrg/News/2018/01/Integrity-Declaration-Form-OAR-Athletes.pdf

Yes, that is the Athlete form.

 

[victorskid]

Has anything been announced about Russian skating judges?

They would have to sign the Officials form, I would think: https://stillmed.olympic.org/media/Document Library/OlympicOrg/News/2018/01/Integrity-Declaration-Form-OAR-Officials.pdf

 

[Tinami Amori]

Happy to see bedroom behavior is being regulated too

OAR members will, however, be allowed to display the Russian flag in their bedrooms providing it is not "publicly visible".

Some Russian media is having a blast with a "flag" issue, writing articles like "The West is afraid of the Russian Flag".
http://www.telegraf.lv/blog/post/flag-kotorogo-boitsya-mok-felyeton-prognoz

With Putin's elections coming up in a few weeks, the issue with the Olympics is certainly swaying public towards patriotism, those who, in spite of the fact that Putin will win, were considering voting for the opposition... ... and the hope that at least some notable percentage will vote against Putin is dwindling across the country, based on blogs, forums, chats in regional and municipal areas outside of Moscow.... ... when one gets lemons, one makes lemonade.

 

[meggonzo]

Yes, that is the Athlete form.

And it's the same one that Phil Hersh tweeted.

 

[victorskid]

And it's the same one that Phil Hersh tweeted.

Sorry - his tweet that I took my link from was of the form for "officials".

 

[caseyedwards]

They would have to sign the Officials form, I would think: https://stillmed.olympic.org/media/Document Library/OlympicOrg/News/2018/01/Integrity-Declaration-Form-OAR-Officials.pdf

Are the judges really members of the countries team?

Some Russian media is having a blast with a "flag" issue, writing articles like "The West is afraid of the Russian Flag".
http://www.telegraf.lv/blog/post/flag-kotorogo-boitsya-mok-felyeton-prognoz

With Putin's elections coming up in a few weeks, the issue with the Olympics is certainly swaying public towards patriotism, those who, in spite of the fact that Putin will win, were considering voting for the opposition... ... and the hope that at least some notable percentage will vote against Putin is dwindling across the country, based on blogs, forums, chats in regional and municipal areas outside of Moscow.... ... when one gets lemons, one makes lemonade.

Huge mess but good for putin

 

[MacMadame]

It is possible to criticize a corrupt organization without criticizing third parties who had to deal with it.

Unless you find how they dealt with it to be worthy of criticism.