Harry and Meghan wedding chat- the build up!

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Torontonians are particularly smitten with Harry and Meghan since she lived in the city for several years - until the last week or two - while she was filming her tv show. He was spotted around town a few times, and then his Invictus Games were held in Toronto in the summer, where they made their first public appearances at several events.

Probably why that Daily Mail reader thought she was Canadian, and maybe he thinks Americans and Canadians are the same thing anyway :lol:
 
Tesla said:
Oh, so women should have kids earlier for the grandparents and potential future grandchildren. Gotcha. I'm sorry, that is still no reason why a woman shouldn't have a baby after 40.
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My mom had her kids at 27 and 29 (playing by the rules, LOL) but my sister waited until she was 32 to have her first child, even though she got married at 25. So my mom first became a grandma at age 60...when on paper, it could've been earlier.

But who cares??? My parents are older than some grandparents, but still very happy to have the 2 grandchildren that they do have.
 
I think that some people think Meghan is Canadian because she was living in Toronto while filming her TV show...I was confused at first due to that, but a quick Wikipedia searched fixed that.
 
Winnipeg said:
4. It will be interesting to see diversity in the royal family if and/or when they do have kids! Has there ever been a non Caucasian royal in the UK?
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Prince Philip's uncle George Mountbatten and a great grandchild of Queen Victoria married Nadejda de Torby, a descendant of Alexandre Pushkin, who was part African.

Its a minor connection but its being talked about once again now that Meghan is becoming part of the family.

And just read that Henry VIII beheaded one of her ancestors on her father's side, Lord Hussey, 1st Baron Hussey of Sleaford in 1537. Its amazing what one can find out in Twitter!
 
Actually most of the 11K comments at the DM site were pretty tame. The Brits are groaning about having to support another royal, and the Europeans don't like her shoes. The Americans think the fact she was in show business means the marriage won't last. The Canadians seem to be the most upset that he isn't marrying an English Rose.
 
Tesla said:
Oh, so women should have kids earlier for the grandparents and potential future grandchildren. Gotcha. I'm sorry, that is still no reason why a woman shouldn't have a baby after 40. And I'm sorry, but that's a crappy thing for your brother to say to his son. Did he and his wife offer to babysit? Because I'm sure they could say no. Maybe his son and his daughter-in-law weren't ready for kids earlier. I will reiterate, if the woman is healthy, there is on reason for her not to have a child after 40, regardless of what the grandparents think.
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You missed my point, but that is ok.
 
MLIS said:
Sorry, I can't let this one go. As someone who struggled for years with infertility and finally had a beautiful, healthy baby girl at age 40, if my parents or inlaws had said something like this to me, that would have been the last time they saw that baby. Would I have liked to have started my family years earlier? Sure, of course. But life is messy and complicated and unplanned. And anyone criticizing me for not having my baby on their approved timetable is not someone I want in my baby's life.

Very happy for Meghan and Harry. They looked positively giddy at the photocall, probably as much relieved to finally have it official and have the announcement over with as anything. Looking forward to crazy hats and British pomp and circumstance ... no one does it better!
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I am sorry you had such difficulty. My brother was A. joking, B. speaking to people who were not having a problem conceiving, C. had been married for just 3 years. I would hope no one would make a comment to someone in your circumstances.
 
Vagabond said:
Expecting a woman of any age to "pop out those babies soon" is appalling. :scream:

Best wishes to the happy couple, and may they stay far away from this thread. :)
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Tesla said:
Women have babies in their 40s. She doesn't have to pop them out that soon.

Congratulations to the happy couple!
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The chances of a successful pregnancy go down dramatically after age 35 even with IVF. There are women who have children in their 40s, but there are many women who no longer can because of age even with fertility treatments. The IVF success rate for a 40-41 year old is only 15.6%. For a 42-43 year old it's 6.6%, and above 43 it's less than 2%.

Look, we're not talking about your average couple whose child decisions are a very personal matter. With royals there is a clear expectation from the Firm to have children in order to keep the royal lineage going. This is especially true of direct heirs, but the expectation extends to immediate family members of direct heirs as well.
 
Gazpacho said:
The chances of a successful pregnancy go down dramatically after age 35 even with IVF. There are women who have children in their 40s, but there are many women who no longer can because of age even with fertility treatments. The IVF success rate for a 40-41 year old is only 15.6%. For a 42-43 year old it's 6.6%, and above 43 it's less than 2%.
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It isn't always that difficult to get pregnant after 35. The chances don't go down that dramatically. It all depends on the woman.
 
Tesla said:
It isn't always that difficult to get pregnant after 35. The chances don't go down that dramatically. It all depends on the woman.
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Of course it depends on the woman; that's why some women get pregnant and others don't. I'm simply telling you the statistics. The chances do go down dramatically, and the chance of birth defects goes up. Ask any OB-gyn.
 
Gazpacho said:
Look, we're not talking about your average couple whose child decisions are a very personal matter. With royals there is a clear expectation from the Firm to have children in order to keep the royal lineage going.
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Wikipedia lists fifty-six living descendents of King George V who are eligible to accede to the throne. If you were to count all of the eligible descendents of Sophia, Electress of Hanover, the number would be many times that. If one prince and his wife don't have children, life will go on.

Regardless, anyone who says, "Better pop out those babies soon," which is what you said, is a vulgarian.
 
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Vagabond said:
Wikipedia lists fifty-six living descendents of King George V who are eligible to accede to the throne. If you were to count all of the eligible descendents of Sophia, Electress of Hanover, the number would be many times that. If one prince and his wife don't have children, life will go on.

Regardless, anyone who says, "Better pop those babies soon," which is what you said before you edited your post, is a vulgarian.
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I didn't edit my post. It's still there for anyone to see.

I'm sure there are people within the Firm who are thinking the same. I'm not saying they're right. They're not in my opinion. I've always believed that the decision to have children should be solely the couple's. But let's not pretend that there won't be immense pressure from within the Firm on Harry and Meghan to have children before her biological clock expires.
 
I love her. She's sooooooo articulate and down to earth in that interview and as others have said, they're clearly smitten with each other.

I don't think I'm alone as a Brit in having a soft spot for Harry. So many people I know who are not necessarily monarchists by any stretch just have so much respect for him. Meghan looks to be the perfect partner for him and I look forward to following their future together.

His wedding day deserves to be a public holiday IMO.
 
William and Kate are about to have their third child, so it's not like it's up to Harry to carry on the family line.

The "immense pressure" will more likely come from the Royal-watching public and tabloid media who will be watching for the slightest hint or sign that she's pregnant, with the gushing over everything he's every said or done that shows he loves kids already being chronicled and replayed today.
 
Just seen the interview and Meghan is a very eloquently spoke young lady. And they look totally smitten with each other. Loved how the proposal was over roast chicken in the cottage they are now sharing and she didn't even give him chance to finish before she said yes - so cute!!

The royal family can only benefit from this addition and she will bring so much that can only help the royal family move onwards into the 21st century!!

And yes we need a public holiday to celebrate this occasion :)
 
Gazpacho said:
The chances of a successful pregnancy go down dramatically after age 35 even with IVF. There are women who have children in their 40s, but there are many women who no longer can because of age even with fertility treatments. The IVF success rate for a 40-41 year old is only 15.6%. For a 42-43 year old it's 6.6%, and above 43 it's less than 2%.

Look, we're not talking about your average couple whose child decisions are a very personal matter. With royals there is a clear expectation from the Firm to have children in order to keep the royal lineage going. This is especially true of direct heirs, but the expectation extends to immediate family members of direct heirs as well.
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I don't recall that Princess Anne or Princes Andrew or Edward received any pressure to have children, even from the royal watching public, and especially after Charles had his heir(s). And ever though "The Firm" have rules about many things, they can't (and to be fair, they don't try to) legislate what goes on in the bedroom. I sincerely doubt whether Kate was pressured to have a 3rd child. As far as I recall, Diana & Kate are the only royals in my lifetime memory to have expectations of having babies. Why would anyone pressure Harry & Meghan to have children? The chances of him becoming king is so remote.
 
floskate said:
I love her. She's sooooooo articulate and down to earth in that interview and as others have said, they're clearly smitten with each other.

I don't think I'm alone as a Brit in having a soft spot for Harry. So many people I know who are not necessarily monarchists by any stretch just have so much respect for him. Meghan looks to be the perfect partner for him and I look forward to following their future together.
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Delighted that you are pleased at the news.
I am, as well.
 
Tesla said:
It isn't always that difficult to get pregnant after 35. The chances don't go down that dramatically. It all depends on the woman.
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One of my best friends has 7 children. Five of them were born when she was 35 or older, the last when she was 43. It is not always difficult. And for some women, it is difficult regardless of age. My mother had difficulty getting pregnant. It took two years to conceive my brother and another five (and a medical procedure to open a fallopian tube) before me. And I was born when she was 28.
 
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