I don't think that's surprising at all. The guy skates and woman gets punished for the same (or really lesser since she didn't break her marriage vows) behavior.The thing that surprised me most about Clinton affair was it seemed that the person who suffered the most was the young intern Lewinski..............maybe that should not be a surprise sadly.
That has been true since the beginning of time, unfortunately.I don't think that's surprising at all. The guy skates and woman gets punished for the same (or really lesser since she didn't break her marriage vows) behavior.
I don't think that's surprising at all. The guy skates and woman gets punished for the same (or really lesser since she didn't break her marriage vows) behavior.
Yeah....another example of that is, Justin Timberlake is apparently on the short list to do the Superbowl halftime show this year. What happened the last time he did? Something that Janet Jackson got blamed for.
"In my honest opinion now ... I could've handled it better," Justin admits. "I'm part of a community that consider themselves artists. And if there was something I could have done in her defense that was more than I realized then, I would have. But the other half of me was like, 'Wow. We still haven't found the weapons of mass destruction and everybody cares about this!' "
In retrospect, Timberlake thinks he should have been held more responsible. "I probably got 10 percent of the blame, and that says something about society," he explains. "I think that America's harsher on women. And I think that America is, you know, unfairly harsh on ethnic people."
He recognized that he'd handled it poorly and that he'd been able to skate by because of his gender and race. What more do you want? Sometimes it takes time for people to understand that they were in the wrong.Too little too late Justin
The interview is from 2006. I have no idea what statements he made between the Super Bowl incident and 2006, if any, but he did not wait until now. It's not the most elegant statement, but the part about being part of a community of artists struck me as saying that as a member of that community he had a responsibility, and his actions at the time did not reflect that.I don't see how hard it would have been for him to accept responsibility for it in the first place. I'm glad that he's recognized his mistake now, but he wasn't being asked to do anything exceptional at the time other than to apologize and take some responsibility for how it happened. And that stuff about being part of a "community that considers themselves artists" - isn't Janet Jackson an artist who cares about her work too?
He recognized that he'd handled it poorly and that he'd been able to skate by because of his gender and race. What more do you want? Sometimes it takes time for people to understand that they were in the wrong.
I was just paraphrasing Timberlake's response from the 2006 interview. Today he would have probably said POC and not ethnic people, but the sentiment seems the same - and it is certainly grounded in reality.Thank you for mentioning that race could have been part of the matter as well. It's telling that the black and female person took the majority of the heat, while the white and male person pretty much got a free pass. Plus it seems that Jackson just took whatever was spewed at her and at the same time chose not to deflect any of that towards Timberlake.
It also makes no sense to me to suggest that it would have been different if she were white...
I don't even know why we're having this conversation in this thread - next to Weinstein's decades of sexual harassment and abuse of dozens of women (at least) and the growing revelations of similar behaviour by many others in positions of power in Hollywood, the Super Bowl incident barely registers IMO.
Regardless of what was supposed to happen, it was extremely vulgar choreography that I don't think anyone would have signed off on if Janet had been replaced by popular white singer. And for THAT, Timberlake has never apologized, nor been asked to apologize for.
Could you please quote which comment made you think someone thought that if it were two white performers there would have been no backlash? I'm not sure where you got that from, I didn't get that from anyone's posts.
Tarantino admits he didn't do enough about Weinstein.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/ne...-more-than-i-did/ar-AAtK6ul?OCID=ansmsnnews11
Has anyone seen J. Kimmel's "guess what's in my pants"?.....Tarantino also needs to look at how women are fetishized and sexualized in his own movies and think about how that contributes to a sexist culture.
Tarantino also needs to look at how women are fetishized and sexualized in his own movies and think about how that contributes to a sexist culture.
I had the same reaction when I recently watched the original Blade Runner. What I had seen as lovely and romantic in the interactions of Deckard and Rachael now looked non consensual. In addition, the two female replicants were killed in a horribly graphic and voyeuristic way.In recent years I have found it interesting to revisit films that I thought were brilliant when I was younger and found them to be misognystic. The two that immediately come to mind are 'Last Tango in Paris' and 'Bad Timing: A Sensual Obsession'. I read an interview with Maria Schnieder in which she said that she felt raped by both Marlon Brando and Bernando Bertolluci in 'Last Tango', and it haunted her for life Even though she fully consented to the scene that was later deemed 'esteem', she was young and vulnerable, and influenced by the belief that the film could be her big break.
So 'Last Tango' went off my list of all-time faves.
Why did those films appeal to me as a young woman, I wonder? I'm guessing because I related to being objectified and sexualized, and did not yet have the knowledge and understanding to be aware of that?
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