Gracie Gold Cheer Thread

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Coco said:
I'm not familiar with Sun Valley, but I don't see how that can be anything other than a warmup. It's broad daylight, there are other skaters using the ice, she appears to be marking the jumps.

I think her arms look good, and she's moving better then she did on SOI.

Frankly, she and Polina and anyone else who isn't 90% by the start of the GP should use the fall to practice, then hopefully get some later CS comps or other small internationals.

I think people need to chill out.
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The only video I saw of Gracie, from Sun Valley, was of her doing an axel/half loop/double salchow. The sal was a bit wobbly, but clean... but she did the combination in REVERSE rotational direction! Obviously just having some fun.

Seems a little early to be predicting doom and gloom...
 
A report on Goldenskate from someone who was there said her practice was pretty much what you saw in the videos and the actual performance had labored singles and doubles and not many of them. But then that shouldn't be dispositive of what she can do by Nationals. That said, just from my observation, she doesn't seem ready for an early Challenger. If she can do a few triples in a month maybe she'll feel confident to do her GP events.
 
Ummm HELLO!!! (as the kids used to say) . . . I saw the footage using links from Golden Skate. Those labored jumps from Gracie were OPPOSITE DIRECTION JUMPS. There was nothing anyone could tell either way about her fitness.

It is interesting to note that Gracie actually looked like she was having fun, which was refreshing to see. Yep, refreshing to see a skater have fun.
 
bardtoob said:
Ummm HELLO!!! (as the kids used to say) . . . I saw the footage using links from Golden Skate. Those labored jumps from Gracie were OPPOSITE DIRECTION JUMPS. There was nothing anyone could tell either way about her fitness.

It is interesting to note that Gracie actually looked like she was having fun, which was refreshing to see. Yep, refreshing to see a skater have fun.
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The reverse jumping pass was not the only one on that Instagram account though. The others looked like singles and doubles (in the "right" direction). It could have been her warmup, but she has typically skated triple jumps both in her practices prior to other Sun Valley appearances/at her shows in year's past. I think that people are having a hard time believing that this is happening in a vacuum given her SOI appearances, where she seemed to be the only one doing singles and doubles (leaving out the Champs camp gossip). There were reports from a few different people on golden skate that those were the jumps she was doing at the show, which led to more speculation.

On another note, Ashley's Instagram live has a realllly cute picture of Gracie and Adam, where Adam is holding up Gracie's braids (kind of like Pippi Longstocking), with the caption warrior princess. It's nice to see them having fun together. I hope that Gracie does not read too much social media if she is feeling vulnerable due to all of the gossip. Skate for fun and don't let anyone break your spirit.
 
bardtoob said:
Ummm HELLO!!! (as the kids used to say) . . . I saw the footage using links from Golden Skate. Those labored jumps from Gracie were OPPOSITE DIRECTION JUMPS. There was nothing anyone could tell either way about her fitness.

It is interesting to note that Gracie actually looked like she was having fun, which was refreshing to see. Yep, refreshing to see a skater have fun.
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The report spoke about regular rotation jumps and her actual performances and that instagram account that showed that video with her doing opposite direction jumps also had videos of her doing her regular direction jumps as well which were singles and doubles. I get people want to be defensive but no need to bite people's heads off when they're calling it like they see it. Again, it doesn't indicate what she may be capable of but people saw what they saw.
 
Patinita said:
I think these were part of a warm-up, (Sun Valley clips), with all the other people on the ice, and the person posting it even said it wasn't from the show. In other words, the singles were probably intentional. That being said, does she look in top competitive shape? No. But I would like TSL to post their sources. If they can't name names, then say that they got it from an official, or that its just their own speculation. Not saying it's not true, but the tweet just came out of nowhere.
That would be kind of an unnecessary move on the part of the USFSA. If they didn't want her on the team, then she should go to Sr B's. If she does not do well, at any of her events, then they have the appropriate justification to say....you're not on the team. And SHE has the result that could light a fire to get back in shape, or decide if she wants to continue. I think time is running out on her second chances though. NO shame in taking even more time to get into shape and try to finish her career on a high note next year, or even hanging the skates up. Wish her the best.
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I'm sure it's true, they usually are with their gossip. It's also desperate but what else is new? They have to be the "first" to announce the skaters' business because that's all they have left. :saint:

I feel terrible for Gracie and hope she finds a way out of this hell. Nobody should have to go through the crap she's gone through publically the past 12 months. Talk about having your world flipped upside down. :( I really want to see her succeed, but she deserves to do it on her own terms and her own time. All of the shade constantly being thrown at her isn't fair IMO. She's not "Gracie Gold" right not she's going through a tough time.
 
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VIETgrlTerifa said:
I get people want to be defensive but no need to bite people's heads off when they're calling it like they see it. Again, it doesn't indicate what she may be capable of but people saw what they saw.
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Except a lot of them didn't understand what they were seeing and stated it was X when it was Y. Maybe X happened at some other time in the day, but if someone makes a mistake like that, they should get called out.
 
Since we're talking about the GS report, I think it's fair to clarify that the person who wrote it only said what she saw on the practice session she observed and the performance she saw. She made no judgments from what she reported. I do agree that a lot of the worry is based on speculation and people's deducting things from little video evidence and lack of personal knowledge. As far as anyone knows, Gracie could be doing triples back in Canton. But we're all guessing here.
 
There are a lot of Gracie bashers on gs so I wouldn't read too much into stuff that is posted. She just might be saving those triples for competition, heck I would. If the media writes her off, great, maybe the girl can have some peace in her life and skate with joy for herself. She deserves that and more.
 
When I saw the clips, i recognized the hair and that's it. I thought it was an adult skater having fun. When I found out it was GG, I could not believe it. I mean, granted, she was not in Lululemon athletic wear, she was skating super slow and her double jumps were not very high. Then again, I saw videos of her goofing around at Champs Camp and she did not look, i'll go ahead and say it, heavy.


I don't know what to think except that i want her to do well. Thinking of her at her best, true Lutz, a 3/3 combo no cheating, no under rotation calls, gorgeous costuming, good speed and choreography, she's at her best the best in the USA without any of the over looking you have to do for others( Karen Chen is good but i'm not quite ready to call her our best skater and Mirai has some proving to do). I'm still holding out for GG.
 
First thing first, if a skater isn't in shape, it is gonna be hard to keep it under wraps. If it is true, people are gonna talk. If not true, it will be dispelled soon enough without needing any major outrage over this.

That said, this is a cheer thread and saying negative things about her is probably inappropriate here.

So hoping Gracie the best in everything :)
 
Honestly, based on her level of fitness during SOI, it would almost be dangerous and certainly unnecessary for her to be doing triples now. When your fitness fluctuates like that, slow and steady progress is what is best. Drop too much weight too fast, or attempt too much difficulty before you have your strength back, and you will hurt yourself.

GG is in a unique position because no matter how far off her form she gets, the second she gets back to form, she's a contender. She doesn't need to go to competition if she's not near 100%. And emotionally, I would say there is no need for her to experience going to competitions unprepared. She did that all last year and it didn't help.
 
Vagabond said:
It's in the #TeamTrainwreck thread.
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The person who originally posted the videos on Instagram said this about her meeting with Gracie:

"superangiekatja@timpomares it was so incredible. She is absolutely the sweetest. She thought it was neat that I skate. She wanted to know how long etc. And then her Skating!! So smooth with incredible flow. Go check out the practice videos I put up."
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The person clearly was having the time of her life sharing the ice with Gracie, and this is what it turned into.

My warmest feelings to Gracie.
 
:coffee: People should gossip about important things like Grant and Caroline's cat. The cat could be a star :encore: but all anybody cares about is Gracie's drama. A lot of the skaters love cats (just like regular people do). And just like a well behaved cat, trust is important to have in life. :cat:

Does Gracie have a cat? She should get one to signify the litter box of crap she's been dealt with this past season. And for good luck

https://youtu.be/fzcSJ1setd0 :cat:
 
kittysk8ts said:
Oh God, I am the one who posted the TSL tweets :( I am sorry everyone. I feel like such a JERK. #fail
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What are you feeling like a jerk about? Were the tweets made up? Were you feeling guilty
about posting something negative? Did you suddenly "get religion" about gossip? Gossip is so bad................and soo good.
 
AxelAnnie said:
What are you feeling like a jerk about? Were the tweets made up? Were you feeling guilty
about posting something negative? Did you suddenly "get religion" about gossip? Gossip is so bad................and soo good.
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Well, it is a "cheer" thread and so yes, after reading some of the comments, I realized this probably was not the appropriate thread for the sharing of gossip. Ugh. I hope people know I love Gracie though :)
 
@kittysk8ts, I know you didn't mean to start a chain of negative chatter (ditto the woman in Sun Valley who posted the Instagram clips).

It's when some people make assumptions/leap to conclusions based on these type of gossipy tweets and things like "it's no wonder USFS is pulling their support" are posted that cross the line for me.

GullyGirl84 said:
On another note, Ashley's Instagram live has a realllly cute picture of Gracie and Adam, where Adam is holding up Gracie's braids (kind of like Pippi Longstocking), with the caption warrior princess. It's nice to see them having fun together.
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This is a screen cap of the "Braided warrior princess" moment made by a fan: https://twitter.com/graciegold195/status/902337792939888640/photo/1

Ashley's tweet today: https://twitter.com/AshWagner2010/status/902553248413843456
 
Sylvia said:
@kittysk8ts, I know you didn't mean to start a chain of negative chatter (ditto the woman in Sun Valley who posted the Instagram clips).

It's when some people make assumptions/leap to conclusions based on these type of gossipy tweets and things like "it's no wonder USFS is pulling their support" are posted that cross the line for me.


This is a screen cap of the "Braided warrior princess" moment made by a fan: https://twitter.com/graciegold195/status/902337792939888640/photo/1

Ashley's tweet today: https://twitter.com/AshWagner2010/status/902553248413843456
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Agreed. I know I defended reports made by a poster on GS, but I figured fan reports on public performances and sessions were ok especially if made in a neutral way. What TSL did was way more than that. I'm seriously happy to see Gracie's fellow skaters have her back. I think TSL's tweets and the comments were seen by others (and probably Gracie) and that inspired Grant and Ashley to respond. Yes, I'm assuming both of those tweets were about Gracie. To me, that's the best thing about this whole situation though it probably should not have happened.
 
This new Ashley/Gracie friendship is literally the best thing ever. We can finally join forces and be friends with the Gracie fans, it's so wonderful. :wuzrobbedThere's no reason to be negative and hate each other anymore, they are both better/more powerful together. :kickass: we have such an awesome group of ladies representing our country. :cheer2:
 
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