I Have Got to Stay Out of Sephora (and other glamourpuss issues)

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Some people in my life dont get that I am wearing makeup for me, not for them or potential mate. Sure - I am flattered when others think I look great when I am lovely made up, but it is the cherry on the top and I am fine without cherries 90% of the time.

YESSSSS!

I still hear the following at work, "Wow, who you are attempting to look good for". I always say "ME".

My family wears makeup. I wear more than my maternal aunts and mother. My mom wears foundation and eye make up for special events. However, she wears lipstick everyday. Even when going to work out. My dad's sides wears more full face make up. My aunt Ingrid is a cosmetologist, so she gets for love of makeup. She's the only one that does not see my make up collection as a sign of sickness :)
 
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I have no problem with people not wearing makeup, and in fact envy those who look lovely with just a clean face and freshly washed hair, because I don't. But when they imply that the rest of us are superficial and materialistic, then they're making it about others' choices as much as their own.

I would hate to think that all of us who don't wear makeup imply that others are superficial as much as I would hate it if all who do wear makeup implied that those of us who don't have other issues. IMO, makeup should be a free choice -- and that means people have the right to make choices that are different from the choices that I have made!

(FWIW, I'm one of the lazy ones, who don't wear make up, but that is also due to a debt of gratitude that I owe my mother's family for good skin genes)
 
I would hate to think that all of us who don't wear makeup imply that others are superficial as much as I would hate it if all who do wear makeup implied that those of us who don't have other issues. IMO, makeup should be a free choice -- and that means people have the right to make choices that are different from the choices that I have made!

(FWIW, I'm one of the lazy ones, who don't wear make up, but that is also due to a debt of gratitude that I owe my mother's family for good skin genes)

As said already in this thread, several of us have come across people who do not "imply" that we are superficial, but rather, tell us we are. If someone doesn't wear make-up, I have no issue with that. If that person feels the need to lecture me on why I should not wear it or what is wrong with me that makes me wear it, then we have a problem.
 
Update: I will be debuting my "vintage" look at a "gala" this weekend. It is a work function. I am sure I will get looks and disparging remarks. I am building up my responses to questions like "why are you dressed like a granny". "Did you decide to come in costume"?

Here is what I"m wearing -

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5-S3V78cGfYZDI3TER4TU5ONHBlTUNOTnliaVR5bW4zbTlj/view?usp=sharing - Heidi Dress in red sateen from Pin Up Girl Clothing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5-S3V78cGfYcDhQM3NVSUNScUl3ZjVGalNsdEtJb05hQU84/view?usp=sharing - Laverna shoes in red/black from Bettie Page Shoes

I am wearing a canvas underskirt and pairing everything with red/black bangle braclets; red rose stud earrings, red rose necklace and a red flower hair clip.
 
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@skatesindreams I just hope not to scare small children or make men recoil in horror!
If makeup helps give me a smidgen of confidence to face the world, then that's what I am gonna do.
 
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Update: I will be debuting my "vintage" look at a "gala" this weekend it. It is a work function. I am sure I will get looks and disparging remarks. I am building up my responses to questions like "why are you dressed like a granny". "Did you decide to come in costume"?

Here is what I"m wearing -

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5-S3V78cGfYZDI3TER4TU5ONHBlTUNOTnliaVR5bW4zbTlj/view?usp=sharing - Heidi Dress in red sateen from Pin Up Girl Clothing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5-S3V78cGfYcDhQM3NVSUNScUl3ZjVGalNsdEtJb05hQU84/view?usp=sharing - Laverna shoes in red/black from Bettie Page Shoes

I am wearing a canvas underskirt and pairing everything with red/black bangle braclets; red rose stud earrings, red rose necklace and a red flower hair clip.
My granny never looked like that! I am sure you will look fabulous!
 
I am wondering why there is an implication that those who wear make up are covering up bad skin.

Florence Colgate's skin is as perfect as can be. She wears make up.
 
I miss having Sephora in my city, or country ...

My sister in law told me she has a little something for me from Kiko Cosmetics. Its good I reminded her to get me something. She always forgets or I get stuck with yet another pink nail polish :S
 
I am wondering why there is an implication that those who wear make up are covering up bad skin.

Florence Colgate's skin is as perfect as can be. She wears make up.

I agree.
I wear tinted moisturizer to even out my skin tone and concealer under my eyes. Other than a bit of redness around my nose and dark circles under my eyes, my skin is great (note: this was not always the case!). Makeup is fun! The amount I wear varies on the degree of laziness I feel, but it's fun to wear and makes me feel good.
 
I am wondering why there is an implication that those who wear make up are covering up bad skin.
Nobody implied that. People inferred it. And quite erroneously I might add.

Saying that you don't wear make-up because you have nice skin is not the same thing as saying everyone who wears make-up has bad skin. Just as saying women wear dresses doesn't mean that anyone who wears pants is a man.
 
I used to not wear a lot of makeup, except for special occasions. I always enjoyed putting it on, so I decided (partly because glamourpuss) to wear it more often. I see it like MacMadame, a hobby thing. I do it for fun, for me. I wear different types of colors, styles, for fun. And I like the way I look with a little mascara and highlighter.

I hate that attitude. It is everywhere, though. I was once told by two women in a graduate class, where I was a "visiting student", that they found it shocking that I could discuss the topic intelligently because I wore make-up and nice clothes.

I have been in discussions with women in software about dressing for interviews, and the conclusion is: Don't wear a lot, or even any, makeup for interviews. Don't dress up too much. In fact, if you have a game or software convention t-shirt, wear that!

whenever I went to a social event, wearing makeup and told them I work for Microsoft, people would ask if I was a Program Manager. No, I am a developer. Oh, you don't look like one...
When not wearing makeup I the conversation would go a little different. This might have changed a little for the better in the past 5 years, but it is so annoying.

So I am a developer. With makeup. Or without. And I wear skirts with flowers. Sometimes jeans. (though I have no style :P).


Speaking of playing around with stuff, today I put some eyeliner in my lower lashline. I don't think I like it, makes my eyes look small and squinty. Isn't it supposed to make them look bigger? When ever I see someone with eye shadow or liner in the lower lashline or just below the eye I want to try, and it always looks odd on me. Maybe because my lower lashes are quite long (I never mascara those)?
 
I used to not wear a lot of makeup, except for special occasions. I always enjoyed putting it on, so I decided (partly because glamourpuss) to wear it more often. I see it like MacMadame, a hobby thing. I do it for fun, for me. I wear different types of colors, styles, for fun. And I like the way I look with a little mascara and highlighter.

Speaking of playing around with stuff, today I put some eyeliner in my lower lashline. I don't think I like it, makes my eyes look small and squinty. Isn't it supposed to make them look bigger? When ever I see someone with eye shadow or liner in the lower lashline or just below the eye I want to try, and it always looks odd on me. Maybe because my lower lashes are quite long (I never mascara those)?

Makeup is fun! :)

I don't put any mascara or liner on my lower lashes...I think it makes me look older and tired. I think lining the lower waterline is a better idea, but I have never had good luck with getting eyeliner to stay put in my waterline, and it bothers my eyes. So I don't even bother.
 
I think make up is a fun, interesting way to express one's personality. Some make up trends stay and are classics(winged liner, red lipstick, coral/rose blush) and some are trends(strobing, instagram eyebrows, black lipstick(unless you're style is goth). There are no rules really.
 
Make up is so much fun! I owe it to you ladies for giving me the courage to wear brighter colors. Now I can't get enough! I wore tan and brown eye shadows my entire 20's to mid 30's, now, bring on magenta, purple, olive! Oh, and my lips, woooo, I now wear coral, matte red, and even a bright berry color without batting an eye. this may sound corny but make up made this stay at home mom for 16 years more fun and happy. I see a beautiful fun color on my face and I smile. Now that I started a part time job, I'm having even more fun with it. I adore make up. That's why I wear make up!

ETA: I don't line my bottom lids either. I swipe on mascara once but that's it. I tried putting eyshadow there too and I looked like a raccoon.
 
I don't wear mascara on my bottom lashes because it makes my eyes look like a pair of spiders. I always tightline my upper lid. But for special occasions at night I also line the waterline of both upper and lower lids--I think it adds a bit of drama. Of course the lips stay very neutral for balance.

At the end of the day it's what you like, what makes you feel pretty, isn't it.
 
The same Chanel makeup artist who got me onto their brow kit showed me a trick I've used every day since. In addition to the line above the upper lashes, you dot the eyeliner in between lashes from beneath. You're not actually inside the lid, but filling in the base of your lashes. Add mascara and the result is instantly fuller looking lashes.

I've also been a smudgy gal since I was a teen (hello Stevie Nicks), so I use a small brush to soften the look of the liner, then without adding more, sweep the same brush along my lower lashes for the lightest of definition. I always mascara on them because they are invisible without it, and I use one of the mascaras with a tiny brush to catch them all.

I think it looks nice :)
 
I'm another who mostly lines/mascaras the top only. Once in a while for special occasions I will do the smudgy/smoky thing on the bottom as well, but mascara looks weird on my lower lashes. They are quite long, but sparse, so accenting them is not a good look.

Speaking of smudging, it always bothers me that Kate Middleton does not smudge her bottom lid eyeliner, and it looks harsh and unpolished. How does such a stylish and put together woman not know this??
 
I often put mascara on the lower lid and I also tight line my lashes. Thats the name of the trick Chanel MUA told @Jenny about.
 
Didn't know it had a name :) Funny that I've been wearing makeup for literally decades, and still check the magazines for ideas from time to time, and never thought of doing that. It's made a huge difference.

re Kate - I agree quartz. I think the issue is that she's doing makeup for two audiences - the crowds who come to see her, and the photographers. It's almost like stage makeup at times I find, which is unfortunate.
 
The same Chanel makeup artist who got me onto their brow kit showed me a trick I've used every day since. In addition to the line above the upper lashes, you dot the eyeliner in between lashes from beneath. You're not actually inside the lid, but filling in the base of your lashes. Add mascara and the result is instantly fuller looking lashes.
It's a fabulous technique, called tightlining. Oh nm, kosjenka beat me to it. :)
 
It's a fabulous technique, called tightlining. Oh nm, kosjenka beat me to it. :)

Thanks to you FSU ladies, I have become addicted to tightlining. It makes my eyes look amazing!
I'm another who doesn't line or put mascara on my lower lashes. I have dark circles and even a tiny bit of smudging makes me look like a corpse.
 
I thought tightlining was putting liner in the waterline on your upper or lower lid? Oh well.
I don't think I can get much liner between my lashes...
 
I thought tightlining was putting liner in the waterline on your upper or lower lid? Oh well.
I don't think I can get much liner between my lashes...

Not sure if what I'm talking about is the same thing, but it's definitely not on the inner lid that touches your eyeball (I guess that's the waterline?). Some people do only in between the lashes, which is a somewhat painstaking process and you need the right kind of eyeliner. I do the traditional sweep above the lashes on the lid first, then go in from beneath to dot in spots that were missed. It's easy enough to see your progress in the mirror once you know what you're looking for.

But if you lashes are so lush that you can't get in there, you probably don't need this trick :)
 
Tight lining is a technique where you fill the space between your upper (and lower) lashes using a pencil, gel products or powder. It gives the appearance of thicker eyelashes. it requires a proper eye makeup removing because the leftovers of makeup can clog canals and you can get an infection. It happened to me twice because of using a waterproof products that I didnt remove properly and I have double row of upper lashes...
 
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