I Have Got to Stay Out of Sephora (and other glamourpuss issues)

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Two thumbs up for Maybelline BROWdrama gel. It seems the perfect thing for my thinning brows, making them look a bit more full. I got "soft brown" and it makes a noticeable difference.
 
since it's August can we start wearing fall colors? it's not like I really get 4 seasons in my neck of the woods. It's more low70's is winter and low80's is summer. Sigh.... I'd love some snow during winter.
 
myhoneyhoney said:
since it's August can we start wearing fall colors? it's not like I really get 4 seasons in my neck of the woods. It's more low70's is winter and low80's is summer. Sigh.... I'd love some snow during winter.
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How about corals and golds? They're the transitional colors.
 
myhoneyhoney said:
since it's August can we start wearing fall colors? it's not like I really get 4 seasons in my neck of the woods. It's more low70's is winter and low80's is summer. Sigh.... I'd love some snow during winter.
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I don't see why not. A lot of the old rules that I grew up with no longer apply. You should wear what suits your mood and makes you feel good. If you can wear white after Labor Day you can do whatever you want...lol
 
Saw a friend of a friend rant on Facebook how she just doesn't understand why women have to wear make up and high heels, are their faces and feet so distasteful? Only secretaries wear high heels because they are insecure and dumb, blah blah... Of course her profile picture is all natural and aggressively grungy. And our friend in common chimes in defensively, saying that she only wears eye make up, as if wearing make up is a sin.

Apparently it is in Berkeley. But don't they see that they are being sexist?
 
IceAlisa said:
Saw a friend of a friend rant on Facebook how she just doesn't understand why women have to wear make up and high heels, are their faces and feet so distasteful? Only secretaries wear high heels because they are insecure and dumb, blah blah... Of course her profile picture is all natural and aggressively grungy. And our friend in common chimes in defensively, saying that she only wears eye make up, as if wearing make up is a sin.

Apparently it is in Berkeley. But don't they see that they are being sexist?
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I hate that attitude. It is everywhere, though. I was once told by two women in a graduate class, where I was a "visiting student", that they found it shocking that I could discuss the topic intelligently because I wore make-up and nice clothes.
 
PDilemma said:
I hate that attitude. It is everywhere, though. I was once told by two women in a graduate class, where I was a "visiting student", that they found it shocking that I could discuss the topic intelligently because I wore make-up and nice clothes.
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I dress and wear makeup for me. If someone else thinks I look nice, great, but that's not my intention.
 
I had a teacher tell me she didn't wear makeup to school because she "wasn't trying to pick up a student." I wear A LOT of makeup and I dress well every day. That's for me. And also because I think my students are important enough for me to dress up for. (that was a convoluted sentence)

Wear it, don't wear it, whatever.
 
PrincessLeppard said:
I wear A LOT of makeup and I dress well every day. That's for me. And also because I think my students are important enough for me to dress up for.
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As it should be, I believe.

I've always wondered whether people who were "aggressively grungy"/wore no makeup were somehow uncomfortable with themselves.
 
skatesindreams said:
As it should be, I believe.

I've always wondered whether people who were "aggressively grungy"/wore no makeup were somehow uncomfortable with themselves.
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Here, most of the time it's a political, pseudo-feminist statement. Watch them tear down a tiffed woman like the worst of misogynists only because the way she looks doesn't fit their ideological mold. It's the same emotion that drove women to report their neighbor as a witch in the Middle Ages, because only a witch could get her linens that white, etc.

But...I know some of them sneak away, under the strictest of :sekret: for a little Botox.

ETA: It's my bestie's birthday and I am giving her Dr. Dennis Gross Alpha Beta Peel. He is Da Man! :cheer2:
 
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The teacher who made that comment to me just really doesn't care. I don't think it's any kind of statement, but I would love to Stacy and Clinton to come and make her over. There's a lot of potential there. :)

PrincessLeppard said:
I bought Too Faced's Better than False Lashes Extreme, which I am pretty excited to try out. And I had enough points, so I got a sample of Strivectin-AR night cream.

I will keep everyone posted.
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Okay, so if you want thicker lashes, this is your mascara. I wanted longer ones. I wear very dark eyeshadow, so the thick lashes were mostly lost. I did try wearing a lighter eyeshadow with the mascara, and that looked better, but that's not my every day look. So I won't be buying this again.

I got ten days out of the Strivectin sample. My skin was smooth, but it had a weird smell and I didn't sleep well. This maybe have been the product or it may have been just a phase, but the first day I didn't use it, I slept really well. :shuffle:
 
PDilemma said:
I hate that attitude. It is everywhere, though. I was once told by two women in a graduate class, where I was a "visiting student", that they found it shocking that I could discuss the topic intelligently because I wore make-up and nice clothes.
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Oh god that hits a nerve. Fortunately my colleagues now all have proper Jewish princess training and we can do 10 minutes at staff meetings on shopping. :lol:

But when I worked at a big enviro group there were women who thought I couldn't be a real greenie because I wore pretty clothes and makeup. Oh did I hate that.
 
I spoke to a friend who is totally untiffed about this and she explained to me that she values what's on the inside so highly, that she doesn't feel it's important to waste time on the outside. she feels that she's being superficial and materialistic if she spends time on her appearance.

i do not agree. :-)
 
I am so past the point where liking makeup and shopping (not to mention figure skating!) somehow diminishes my gravitas in the world of Middle East policy. In the words of that NY Times op-ed this past weekend, I am too old for this.
 
fan said:
I spoke to a friend who is totally untiffed about this and she explained to me that she values what's on the inside so highly, that she doesn't feel it's important to waste time on the outside. she feels that she's being superficial and materialistic if she spends time on her appearance.
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For the purposes of discussion, it would be interesting to know a bit more about this person. It's a nice theory that what's on the inside is all that matters, but the reality is that we all have eyes, so what we see contributes to our overall impressions and views of people. And I'm not just talking about those who are considered pretty or handsome and the advantages that brings - it's also about simply looking your own version of your best.

If a person doesn't care about their appearance, the impression could be that there are other things they don't care about that are more serious, and that can have significant effect in all manner of social interactions, whether on the job, in personal relationships and or in the community.

And I'm assuming of course that a person who considers beauty and fashion to be superficial and materialistic lives in simple accommodations, eats for nutritional value only, and spends any time outside of making the world a better place on learning and other self improvement pursuits only? ;)
 
Jenny said:
For the purposes of discussion, it would be interesting to know a bit more about this person. It's a nice theory that what's on the inside is all that matters, but the reality is that we all have eyes, so what we see contributes to our overall impressions and views of people. And I'm not just talking about those who are considered pretty or handsome and the advantages that brings - it's also about simply looking your own version of your best.

If a person doesn't care about their appearance, the impression could be that there are other things they don't care about that are more serious, and that can have significant effect in all manner of social interactions, whether on the job, in personal relationships and or in the community.

And I'm assuming of course that a person who considers beauty and fashion to be superficial and materialistic lives in simple accommodations, eats for nutritional value only, and spends any time outside of making the world a better place on learning and other self improvement pursuits only? ;)
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I have a cousin who preaches about how she is not shallow or materialistic because she doesn't care about make-up or clothes. Except she and her husband are constantly showing off their latest tech device or bragging about going to expensive restaurants and buying expensive wines and that sort of thing.
 
Some people in my life dont get that I am wearing makeup for me, not for them or potential mate. Sure - I am flattered when others think I look great when I am lovely made up, but it is the cherry on the top and I am fine without cherries 90% of the time.
 
I don't wear makeup because I feel like I look like Pennywise or FrankNfurter when I do. But as a natural blonde, I will wear mascara sometimes, and it is a very noticeable change.
 
If you are a fair skinned blonde, you may want to try brown mascara, it's not as harsh. @Kasey And a very light brown brow liner, I would ask for help to match it.
 
Thanks IceAlisa! I'm about medium toned, who gets fairly tan in the summer, and a dirty blonde. But I may look into brown mascara, and see if it looks nice for every day. And maybe filling in the brows some; I just don't like ending up looking like Joan Crawford or something!

I think in my case, growing up with a mother who doesn't wear makeup kind of impacted my sister and myself; neither of us really learned, or bothered to. Neither of us wears makeup all that often, but I think my sister is better at it when she does!
 
Kasey said:
Thanks IceAlisa! I'm about medium toned, who gets fairly tan in the summer, and a dirty blonde. But I may look into brown mascara, and see if it looks nice for every day. And maybe filling in the brows some; I just don't like ending up looking like Joan Crawford or something!
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Benefit makes a really nice brow pencil that comes in a couple of different shades. It's feathery light and blends really well.
 
My favorite brow pencil is Chanel http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/chanel-crayon-sourcils-sculpting-eyebrow-pencil/3210587

Love the handy dandy brush on the other end. Thank you, Glamour Puss who recommended it. :)

And there is a shade of blonde. I am a dark brunette with black brows and I use Brun Cendre. But do shop around and find just the right shade for you.

This is the Benefit Light to Medium: http://coquette.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83451c76a69e2019affc662df970b-pi

and Chanel Blond Clair: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XRRss45b62w/Tey7BWdazGI/AAAAAAAAACY/y7akLN84zMM/s320/SDC13069.JPG
 
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For me, I'm lazy and also overbooked. I don't value the difference in my look between make-up and non-makeup enough to go to the effort unless it's for certain occasions where I am already going to the effort. Plus I have nice skin. :D

I also don't color my hair to hide the gray. Too much work and I kind of like my gray. It means I've been places and seen things. ;)

I don't really care what other people do. I consider make-up to be like a hobby. I have my hobbies, other people have theirs. Variety makes it interesting. The only thing I object to is when women feel like they just can't go out in public without being fully made up to the point where it's a complex. Complexes and neuroses are something to work on in my book. [I'm talking about people turning down invites they want to go to because they don't have time to "put on their face" and stuff like that.]

Oh and I object to people making subtle digs at people who don't wear make-up. Or sometimes not so subtle ones.
 
I recently got Le femme brow pencil in Blonde. It is a winner and at 1.80$ - I dont think you can find a better bargine. I got it here.
 
IceAlisa said:
My favorite brow pencil is Chanel http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/chanel-crayon-sourcils-sculpting-eyebrow-pencil/3210587

Love the handy dandy brush on the other end. Thank you, Glamour Puss who recommended it. :)
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I love the Chanel brow kit with three shades. I have very sparse brows naturally, so at first I was all about the lightest shade, and then started venturing into the medium shade as I got better at it. Now on occasion I even use the darkest shade :) The key was investing in the proper brow brush, rather than the tiny thing that comes in the kit.

Before that I used a pencil - Estee Lauder had a nice fat neutral one that I used for decades, but as so often happens as one gets older, your favourite things are discontinued, le sigh. But this is why it's worth sitting down for the makeup counter makeover now and then, as you are often introduced to new products and techniques you might never have otherwise tried.

MacMadame said:
Oh and I object to people making subtle digs at people who don't wear make-up. Or sometimes not so subtle ones.
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I have no problem with people not wearing makeup, and in fact envy those who look lovely with just a clean face and freshly washed hair, because I don't. But when they imply that the rest of us are superficial and materialistic, then they're making it about others' choices as much as their own.
 
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