USFSA funding/envelopes

[Silkie]

Can someone explain to me why Angela Wang is listed in the A envelope? Thanks.

 

[Sylvia]

It's just a mistake (she wasn't listed there earlier). The 2016-17 team envelopes have yet to be published online.

Even though the header says "2016-17 TEAM ENVELOPE" the skaters currently listed in the envelopes are for the current 2015-16 season. Wang is in Team C.

 

[Sylvia]

Copying @toddlj's projected 2016-17 team envelopes compilation from the 2016 U.S. Nationals forum in the Kiss & Cry section (I've noted the 2016 4CC & World Junior medalists below):

2016-17 team envelope criteria: http://www.usfsa.org/story?id=84105&menu=TeamUSA

"Athletes qualifying in more than one envelope and/or tier will always be placed in the higher envelope and tier."

ENVELOPE A

Tier 1 - Placements 1st - 5th at the 2016 ISU World Figure Skating Championships (TBD)

Tier 2
2016 U.S. National Senior Champion: Gold, Rippon, Shibutani/Shibutani (also 4CC gold), Kayne/O’Shea

Placements 1st - 3rd at the ISU Senior Grand Prix Final in the 2015-16 season: Chock/Bates (also 4CC silver)

Placements 6th - 10th at the 2016 ISU World Figure Skating Championships (TBD)


ENVELOPE B

Tier 1
Placements 2nd - 4th in the senior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships:
Edmunds, Wagner, Nagasu (also 4CC silver & Worlds 1st alternate); Aaron, N. Chen, Hochstein; Hubbell/Donohue, Cannuscio/McManus (also Worlds 1st alternate); Scimeca/Knierim (also 4CC silver), Castelli/Tran (also Worlds 1st alternate), Aaron/Settlage

Placements 11th and lower at the 2016 ISU World Figure Skating Championships (TBD)


Tier 2
Placements 2nd - 3rd at any of the six ISU Senior Grand Prix competitions in the 2015-16 season: Brown, Miner; Hicks

Placement 5th in the senior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships: Pierce; Hawayek/Baker; Calalang/Sidhu

Champions in the Challenger Series competitions in the 2015-16 season combined with a top 10 placement in the senior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships: Thomas/Eaton

World Team 2nd and 3rd Alternates in the 2015-16 season: Pierce, Hannah Miller; Miner, Alexander Johnson; Hawayek/Baker; (Aaron/Settlage in B-1), Calalang/Sidhu

2016 ISU World Junior Champion: McNamara/Carpenter


ENVELOPE C

Tier 1
Placements 6th -7th in the senior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships: Dolensky; Tennell; Smith/Reiss, Pfund/Santillan; Manta/Johnson

2016 U.S. Junior Champion: Tomoki Hiwatashi (also World Junior bronze); Emily Chan; Weinberg/Fernandez (McNamara/Carpenter moved up to B-2)

Champion at any of the seven ISU Junior Grand Prix competitions in the 2015-16 season: Parsons/Parsons (also World Junior silver)

Qualifier for the ISU Junior Grand Prix Final in the 2015-16 season: Zhou

Tier 2
Placements 2nd - 3rd in the Challenger Series competitions in the 2015-16 season: K. Chen, A. Wang

Placements 8th in the senior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships: de la Mora/Kurdyukov (split?); Maxwell/Devereaux

Placements 2nd - 3rd in the junior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships: Le, Wessenberg; Shum, Krasnozhon; Pogrebinsky/Benoit; Weinstein/Simon (Findley/Hale SPLIT)

Placements 2nd - 3rd at any of the seven ISU Junior Grand Prix competitions in the 2015-16 season: Biechler/Dodge, Carreira/Ponomarenko


ENVELOPE DEVELOPMENTAL

Tier 1
Placements 4th - 6th in the junior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships:
Rebecca Peng, Alice Yang, Vanna Giang; Paolo Borromeo, Oleksiy Melnyk, Tony Lu; Lewis/Bye; Gallagher/Highgate-Brutman, Green/Newby-Estrella (Setoyama/Paradis SPLIT)

Tier 2
Placements 1st - 3rd in the novice events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships
Haley Beavers, Alexia Paganini, Sierra Venetta; Eric Sjoberg, Peter Liu, Maxim Naumov;
Green/Green, Gunter/Wein, Elder/Elder; Kopmar/Barrett, Gamez/Schwab, Jaeckel/Scoralle

 

[misskarne]

Poor Josh. Pile-on addition: miss a season with concussion, lose funding.

 

[Sylvia]

Although Farris and Haven Denney/Brandon Frazier missed the entire 2015-16 season, they could qualify for 2016-17 envelope funding based on this criterion listed under ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS:

Athletes that were in the Team B Envelope the previous year and plan on continuing to compete will automatically be placed in Team C - Tier 1 if they do not meet the criteria for Team A or Team B. However, if the athlete or team was not able to compete at the U.S. Figure Skating Championships due to injury and was in the B Envelope the previous season the athlete/team may be placed in Team C - Tier 1 or Team C - Tier 2 based on the discretion of the ICMS.

Richard Dornbush is another Team B member this season who missed Nationals and could qualify for envelope funding this way as well.

 

[ilovepaydays]

Although Farris and Haven Denney/Brandon Frazier missed the entire 2015-16 season, they could qualify for 2016-17 envelope funding based on this criterion listed under ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS:

Athletes that were in the Team B Envelope the previous year and plan on continuing to compete will automatically be placed in Team C - Tier 1 if they do not meet the criteria for Team A or Team B. However, if the athlete or team was not able to compete at the U.S. Figure Skating Championships due to injury and was in the B Envelope the previous season the athlete/team may be placed in Team C - Tier 1 or Team C - Tier 2 based on the discretion of the ICMS.

Richard Dornbush is another Team B member this season who missed Nationals and could qualify for envelope funding this way as well.

When does USFS usually announce the funding envelopes for next season? I would bet that Farris, D/F, and/or Dornbush would have to have an acceptable monitoring session in order to be considered for Team C. But then they would need a monitoring session in order to get any assignments anyway.

 

[Jarrett]

So Mirai makes A Tier 2?

 

[VGThuy]

Why is there a random picture of Totmianina/Marinin in the Team Envelope criteria link?

 

[VALuvsMKwan]

Updated from Sylvia's earlier post to reflect Worlds placements and/or higher envelope assignment:

ENVELOPE A

Tier 1 - Placements 1st - 5th at the 2016 ISU World Figure Skating Championships:
Wagner (2nd), Gold (4th), Shibutani/Shibutani (2nd), Chock/Bates (3rd)

Tier 2
2016 U.S. National Senior Champion: Rippon (also 6th at Worlds), Kayne/O’Shea (also 13th at Worlds)

Placements 1st - 3rd at the ISU Senior Grand Prix Final in the 2015-16 season:

Placements 6th - 10th at the 2016 ISU World Figure Skating Championships:
Nagasu (10th) , Aaron (8th), Hochstein (10th) , Hubbell/Donohue (6th), Scimeca/Knierim (9th), Rippon (see above)


ENVELOPE B

Tier 1
Placements 2nd - 4th in the senior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships:
Edmunds, N. Chen, Cannuscio/McManus (also Worlds 1st alternate); Castelli/Tran (also Worlds 1st alternate), Aaron/Settlage

Placements 11th and lower at the 2016 ISU World Figure Skating Championships:
Kayne/O’Shea (see above - higher funding due to US National Senior Champions)

 

[mysticchic]

Copying @toddlj's projected 2016-17 team envelopes compilation from the 2016 U.S. Nationals forum in the Kiss & Cry section (I've noted the 2016 4CC & World Junior medalists below): I have added in the Worlds criteria

2016-17 team envelope criteria: http://www.usfsa.org/story?id=84105&menu=TeamUSA

"Athletes qualifying in more than one envelope and/or tier will always be placed in the higher envelope and tier."

ENVELOPE A

Tier 1 - Shibutani, Chock/Bates, Gracie Gold, Ashley Wagner (1-5th at worlds)

Tier 2
2016 U.S. National Senior Champion: Gold, Rippon, Shibutani/Shibutani (also 4CC gold), Kayne/O’Shea

Placements 1st - 3rd at the ISU Senior Grand Prix Final in the 2015-16 season: Chock/Bates* (also 4CC silver)

Placements 6th - 10th at the 2016 ISU World Figure Skating Championships Hubbell/Donohue (6th), Max Aaron, Rippon*, Grant Hochstien (10th at worlds), Mirai NAGASU (10th at worlds), Alexa SCIMECA / Chris KNIERIM (9th at worlds)


ENVELOPE B

Tier 1
Placements 2nd - 4th in the senior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships:
Edmunds, Wagner*, Nagasu* (also 4CC silver & Worlds 1st alternate); Aaron, N. Chen, Hochstein*; Hubbell/Donohue*, Cannuscio/McManus (also Worlds 1st alternate); Scimeca/Knierim (also 4CC silver), Castelli/Tran (also Worlds 1st alternate), Aaron/Settlage

Placements 11th and lower at the 2016 ISU World Figure Skating Championships Kayne/O’Shea*


Tier 2
Placements 2nd - 3rd at any of the six ISU Senior Grand Prix competitions in the 2015-16 season: Brown, Miner; Hicks

Placement 5th in the senior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships: Pierce; Hawayek/Baker; Calalang/Sidhu

Champions in the Challenger Series competitions in the 2015-16 season combined with a top 10 placement in the senior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships: Thomas/Eaton

World Team 2nd and 3rd Alternates in the 2015-16 season: Pierce, Hannah Miller; Miner, Alexander Johnson; Hawayek/Baker; (Aaron/Settlage in B-1), Calalang/Sidhu

2016 ISU World Junior Champion: McNamara/Carpenter


ENVELOPE C

Tier 1
Placements 6th -7th in the senior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships: Dolensky; Tennell; Smith/Reiss, Pfund/Santillan; Manta/Johnson

2016 U.S. Junior Champion: Tomoki Hiwatashi (also World Junior bronze); Emily Chan; Weinberg/Fernandez(McNamara/Carpenter moved up to B-2)

Champion at any of the seven ISU Junior Grand Prix competitions in the 2015-16 season: Parsons/Parsons (also World Junior silver)

Qualifier for the ISU Junior Grand Prix Final in the 2015-16 season: Zhou

Tier 2
Placements 2nd - 3rd in the Challenger Series competitions in the 2015-16 season: K. Chen, A. Wang

Placements 8th in the senior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships: de la Mora/Kurdyukov (split?); Maxwell/Devereaux

Placements 2nd - 3rd in the junior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships: Le, Wessenberg; Shum, Krasnozhon; Pogrebinsky/Benoit; Weinstein/Simon (Findley/Hale SPLIT)

Placements 2nd - 3rd at any of the seven ISU Junior Grand Prix competitions in the 2015-16 season: Biechler/Dodge, Carreira/Ponomarenko


ENVELOPE DEVELOPMENTAL

Tier 1
Placements 4th - 6th in the junior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships:
Rebecca Peng, Alice Yang, Vanna Giang; Paolo Borromeo, Oleksiy Melnyk, Tony Lu; Lewis/Bye; Gallagher/Highgate-Brutman, Green/Newby-Estrella (Setoyama/Paradis SPLIT)

Tier 2
Placements 1st - 3rd in the novice events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships
Haley Beavers, Alexia Paganini, Sierra Venetta; Eric Sjoberg, Peter Liu, Maxim Naumov;
Green/Green, Gunter/Wein, Elder/Elder; Kopmar/Barrett, Gamez/Schwab, Jaeckel/Scoralle

* Denotes they qualify in a higher envelope.

 

[VGThuy]

So how much money do skaters get?

 

[concorde]

My impression is the amount is very minimal. But I'm sure the parents of these skaters will take any money they can get.

Somewhere I read that at the higher levels, USFS gives you an agent and this agent works to get you the promotions. So the higher up you are, the better agent you get.

 

[mysticchic]

You don't just get an agent. An agent has to sign the skaters. Winning nationals will get you an agent. Being a popular skater will get you an agent.
I know in the US if you are in the top 10 at worlds you get your ice free. The skaters get the money in several payments made through the year. Back in 2005, Env C was something between 2-4,000.
None of this covers the total cost of skating. Coaches, off ice training, costumes, practice clothing, boots and blades, sharpening, choreography, dance, weight training, housing, food, transportation to and from practice, ice time and paying for coaches losses when they travel with a team and also paying for the coaches expenses at a comp. Other things, like a mime working with a skater or skaters, travel/hotels to monitoring events, entry fee to those events and judges to come and review your programs. Tutoring for online classes.
If skater is under age, parents may have to move and have 2 households.
The elite skaters get shows and prize money to off set cost and there is a bonus for winning the gold medal at GP/world events.

 

[Sylvia]

I know in the US if you are in the top 10 at worlds you get your ice free.

AFAIK, this depends on the skaters' individual training rinks and/or clubs.

 

[pairskatingfan]

AFAIK, this depends on the skaters' individual training rinks and/or clubs.

Yeah there definitely isn't a policy like this. However, certain skaters are eligible for additional funding from the IOC and that may help offset costs such as ice time.

 

[PairSk8r123]

ENVELOPE DEVELOPMENTAL
Tier 1
Placements 4th - 6th in the junior events at the 2016 U.S. Figure Skating Championships:
Rebecca Peng, Alice Yang, Vanna Giang; Paolo Borromeo, Oleksiy Melnyk, Tony Lu; Lewis/Bye; Gallagher/Highgate-Brutman, Green/Newby-Estrella (Setoyama/Paradis SPLIT)

Gallagher/Highgate-Brutman have split. Skate Pairs posted on twitter that Justin is now skating with Allie Timlen. (https://twitter.com/SkatePairs/status/719471838074707968)

AFAIK, this depends on the skaters' individual training rinks and/or clubs.

I agree. I've heard that Broadmoor SC has a deal where once a skater advances through a qualifying competition, they have a certain amount of free ice at the World Arena until their next qualifying competition. For pair skaters and dancers (that automatically qualify to Sectionals), they start getting free ice around the time that all the Regional Championships finish and have the free ice until Nationals (assuming they make it out of their respective sections). Most clubs also give skaters stipends/reward money for their participation or placement (depending on the club) at Sectionals, Nationals, and Internationals.

 

[Sylvia]

@pairskatingfan, I think you meant "certain skaters are eligible for additional funding from the USOC" (not IOC). I believe Team A & B envelope athletes are eligible for this funding, administered through USFS.