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"Brown insisted the coaching shift was about much more than quads."
"It is about having fun and doing my best ... Hehe"
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Jason is like a more advanced Scott Dyer.
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"Brown insisted the coaching shift was about much more than quads."
Honestly, I don't think Jason's had more severe injury issues than your typical senior man. And he was injury free this past season.Jason seems like such a nice person. But it's always been clear to me that he's very ambitious.
It is also clear to me that the biggest thing holding him back in the recent years seems to have been injuries (not lack of seriousness or attachment to a coach. Though I've felt that Jason probably needed something different in terms of teaching technique for a while). I'm excited for him (and us) that he was able to make a change and will be sticking around for four more years.
"It is about having fun and doing my best ... Hehe"
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Jason is like a more advanced Scott Dyer.
"It is about having fun and doing my best ... Hehe"
{{Vomit}}
Jason is like a more advanced Scott Dyer.
Gee, tell us how you REALLY feel? He's just "more advanced" than the guy whose senior finish at his last Nationals was 20th?
??? That's odd-- I did not say those things. I don't have any problems w/David Wilson's choreo and certainly would not call it "sh-t."Are you sure that was the way Wilson choreographed Weir´s programs? I´m sure there would have been transitions if Weir was able to handle that kind of programs and maybe his coach simplified the programs....
Poor Scott. Excellent edges and no one remembers him because he doesn't jump well.Gee, tell us how you REALLY feel? He's just "more advanced" than the guy whose senior finish at his last Nationals was 20th?
Why are you even reading a thread about Jason and making the same old nasty remarks? Does it make you feel good about yourself?
I like Scott Dyer. Your interpretation indicates you are the jerk. What did Scott Dyer ever do to you?
Really. And the vomit?
The vomit is not liking the syrupy sweet comment by Jason. Jason does not have to improve much of anything else but his jumps . . . he needs to learn 3 different quads and the 3A at 23.
I think that's what he's got planned for Jin.Ugh, I generally am not a fan of Brian's student's programs. Please skategods, no horrible jazzy shorts ("Sing, Sing, Sing" or "Take Five") or high school "standard" musicals (i.e. continuing along the lines of Javi's "Guys and Dolls" and "Man of LaMancha" dreck) for free skates.
I know that's probably too much to ask for, but I'll try and have hope.![]()
The full reportJust saw this tweet from The Skating Lesson.
WOW!
Jason has been soooo close to landing one, the ability is there, he just needs something else in training.Brian would not take Jason on if he didn’t think he could get quads.
Jason will have better and consistent access to some of the best coaches, etc. in the world. What could be better to help him go further in his artistry and with technical ability?I'm not really sure that's such great great news as everybody seems to think? Looking at the roster, Jason will be rather far down the priority list. They'll focus on Medvedeva - they have something to prove after all, on Jin - China's hope for Beijing gold, on Cha - Korea's hope for a next FS star, on Hanyu - Japan's hope for 4A, on Gogolev - Canada's hope to return to the top...
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I don't know though -- it seems he is looking for a wholesale change. Sure the quads are a huge part of that...but it sounds like he wants to see what else is out there. Just because he's already good at artistry/skating basics/non-jump elements doesn't mean there isn't room for growth there....
I don't think there will be any fighting. Orser has access to another skating rink, he uses a team of people to take care of his skaters and the various needs in prep for competition. According to the article on Ice Network, he won't be able to accompany Jason to every event, but there will be another coach with whom Jason has worked, that can be there. I don't see that as pecking order, but as the other skaters who have been with Orser already for many years, have first priority.There is obviously a pecking order with every coach, and this will be different for him. Kori is tough but he was her special one, now he has to fight for his place on a team with skaters such as Med and Hanyu. Kind of a make it or break it situation mentally for a guy who sometimes seems to be too nice and goodhearted for his own competitive good.
Skaters often talk about how their training mates pushes them to be better and train harder, I hope this will be the case.
I will always cheer for him nevertheless, his personality is just the best, and very honest.
Either one will be awesome with Jason's artistic ability, and he needs something new and the option to be the most important one in choosing music.Why is everyone assuming that David Wilson will necessarily do Jason’s programs? With Lee Barkell as Jason’s main coach, wouldn’t Jeff Buttle be just as likely?
Not shocked. All she needed was another lutz to been Zagitova. Her coach knew that.Evgenia leaving Eteri...
Jason will have better and consistent access to some of the best coaches, etc. in the world. What could be better to help him go further in his artistry and with technical ability?
Well, in jumps he may be, but he's at or near the top as far as spinning and footwork goes. His transitions are pretty good as well.It's a sport. A sport is about winning. He's less advanced than the consistently top men.
Is he even capable of saying something mean?I'm sure it would be more fun for some if Jason said, "I'm moving to Canada and wedging my way in on Brian Orser's team because I can't keep up with the joneses with the jumps and need to compete." But it would be way out of character for him and his personality. Not to mention that he's put more stock on having an all-round skating package than amassing new jumps, which I guess arguably is part of the problem. In other words, what he says is pretty much in line with his philosophy anyway?
ITA. Some of my favorite recent programs have been choreographed by her: Seimei, Nemesis, Hip Hip Chin Chin, etc. She tends to make interesting programs.Personally, I would rather see him working with Shae-Lynn than David Wilson. I find her choreography to be more innovative and his to be more fill the box. Jason can handle the former.
I don't think there will be any fighting. Orser has access to another skating rink, he uses a team of people to take care of his skaters and the various needs in prep for competition. According to the article on Ice Network, he won't be able to accompany Jason to every event, but there will be another coach with whom Jason has worked, that can be there. I don't see that as pecking order, but as the other skaters who have been with Orser already for many years, have first priority.
Then say you didn’t like his comment. It wasn’t Jason who looked bad here.
I think he tried too be too cool for hard jumps when he is no Patrick Chan.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Anyone who thinks this was his attitude clearly hasn't paid any attention at all in the last eight years.
Please. You'd call me a fool either way![]()
If the shoe fits...