VGThuy
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Maybe the ISU is deciding to see if the RD format will still exist as it does by next season.
Then she too is equally foolish.I highly doubt that.
How many are here for a full on CD OD and FD?Maybe the ISU is deciding to see if the RD format will still exist as it does by next season.
To be brutally honest at this point, time to focus on other things.Then she too is equally foolish.
True.To be brutally honest at this point, time to focus on other things.
yes, I do think it's unkind to pile on a poster who has attempted to give more information and has also revealed that they are 19 years old? There's no need to make the forum feel so confrontational.I am all for moving this topic elsewhere.
I have taken issue with the writing style of someone who advertises their blog in this very forum to garner following and you see this as 'incredible personal'?!?
It is 'unkind' to hold a mirror up to someone who takes on the role of calling others out while hiding behind asterics'ing the names of people they discuss?!?
This isn't about Katsalapov (whom I'm not a fan of...), in case you've missed it.
Never going to happen. They've been gearing up to drop the pattern dances, and at this point, I wouldn't complain. I'd prefer an OD with a stricter rhythm requirement over the RDs we're seeing now.How many are here for a full on CD OD and FD?
IIRC they announced the theme of Broadway after 2018 worlds (when they announced the tango, I think?) but they didn't announce the pattern dance until later on - this is maybe when they were floating the idea of doing away with the pattern? Perhaps the post-Olympic season is a later announcement to accomodate possible changes to the requirements? I could be wrong though! I really would love a waltz though as it's been too long!I thought they usually announced the rhythms/theme for the next season at least a season in advance and then held an RD tech seminar at Worlds - that's what they did in 2019. We knew that it would be musicals/Broadway and the ISU had announced the pattern was the Finnstep as well as march, Charleston and foxtrot options, but I think it was at the seminar they added in waltz as another rhythm option, and they expounded on what music would be acceptable and what would not (ie - jukebox musicals were okay but no general movie soundtracks unless it was from a movie musical - so yes to Chicago, Grease, Mamma Mia but no to Star Wars).
Agreed. I wouldn’t mind sticking to one rhythm in the RD/OD either. Make it an option in the FD to do a change of rhythm:tempo but also state that if teams do one tempo, they are still expected to show “variety” even with one tempo/rhythm.I think it would be cool if they would emphasize the change of rhythm more in the OD - really highlighting an ability to engage meaningfully with two styles - and drop the requirement (I think? I haven't read the manual yet, but this has come up in discussion and commentary) in the free. Maybe the concern is that would make a lot of FD's overly monotonous? But I'd like teams to be able to choice to stick with a single piece of music if they want.
I know nothing about the Maple Leaf March, but from the name I'm going to assume the rules will include at least one member of the team wearing a sweater vest and at least one Buble song.I'd heard at some point that 2022-2023 would be the Maple Leaf March, but the 2020 training sessions for those (one at Euros and one at 4Cs) were cancelled due to YKW. So presumably until they can have those sessions, that dance would be postponed to another season.
It seemed to me they were gearing up to expand/refresh the pattern dances.They've been gearing up to drop the pattern dances
The rhumba was transformed by 2003. But it’s never gone further.It seemed to me they were gearing up to expand/refresh the pattern dances.
Didn't they confirm that Torvill & Dean's rhumba would be transformed into one?
For some reason I thought there was an announcement about it more recently?The rhumba was transformed by 2003. But it’s never gone further.
Belbin/Agosto did a demonstration at2003 worlds.For some reason I thought there was an announcement about it more recently?
(My dance-related memory databank is all rusty after the *********, though it's getting better).
That's not what I'm thinking of. I thought there was some kind of announcement, but probably I am just remembering speculation instead?Belbin/Agosto did a demonstration at2003 worlds.
It seemed to me they were gearing up to expand/refresh the pattern dances.
Didn't they confirm that Torvill & Dean's rhumba would be transformed into one?
Isn't the Maple Leaf March the one based on Gilles & Poirier's program? (And it seems like I read somewhere that teams have to retire before their own patterns can be used as a senior selection).
Throwing out the pattern could happen, but when compulsories were thrown out, they were thrown out entirely. The patterns are all that the young dance teams do. It's pretty ingrained in the development of the sport so I'm not so sure they are going the way of compulsories.
PIPER: Yeah so because that year, they had us kind of create our own partial pattern - like this year with the Finnstep, half of it is called the partial pattern, so it was one of those. So we were like okay, so we’ve got something like that but it's all the way around the rink, and we had to get like six or something turns each so we’re like, how do we do that? What if we did something and did it one way but then flipped it so the other person does the exact same steps but on the other side? And we were like, well that’s actually kind of interesting.
And as we started to create that over the year, people started to recognize that it was flipped and really creative and out of the box, so we were approached at Worlds because they said “Yeah we’ve been trying to add new compulsory dances, and this seems to fit the bid of what we were looking for.” And we were like REALLY honored 'cause we had kind of struggled with that program all season - we weren’t getting the marks we were hoping for with it, we didn’t make the Grand Prix Final with it. And then we ended up changing the program like three weeks before we went to Worlds - we just went completely Beatles. So everything about it, we were like (makes surprised face), “Okay, I guess they like it now!” But we were really honored that they chose ours, and actually during the next Olympic year (2021-22 season), the juniors are gonna be performing it.
I.A.M. is nudging its way into Barbara Fusar-Poli's turf, getting their very own new Italian team.
Something I don't understand about IAM Ontario is how it is able to take on so many teams when most of its coaches also seem to be working at the Ilderton Skating Club, which has a different focus and its own programs.
It seems ISC became IAM Ontario. Honestly it's weird to me how Scott just decided to hire his entire family for the "new" skating school. And even weirder that Marie and Patrice signed off on it. But YMMV.Something I don't understand about IAM Ontario is how it is able to take on so many teams when most of its coaches also seem to be working at the Ilderton Skating Club, which has a different focus and its own programs.
That's not true. IAM Ontario doesn't run CanSkate lessons or have a synchronized skating program, so they very obviously are two different entities.It seems ISC became IAM Ontario. Honestly it's weird to me how Scott just decided to hire his entire family for the "new" skating school. And even weirder that Marie and Patrice signed off on it. But YMMV.
Well, IAM manages 21 junior and senior teams (that I know of), at least a couple skaters looking for partners, with tons of competition travel. They have 6 on-ice coaches, plus several people like Sam Chouinard.Something I don't understand about IAM Ontario is how it is able to take on so many teams when most of its coaches also seem to be working at the Ilderton Skating Club, which has a different focus and its own programs.
Yes. The Finnstep is an enduring legacy for Rokkomo and Kokko. I adored them.Even if Piper and Paul don't win a medal this year, having a pattern dance chosen to move forward for other teams in the future of Ice Dance, that they hand a hand in creating, is an incredible legacy.
One of my favourites. R/K.Yes. The Finnstep is an enduring legacy for Rokkomo and Kokko. I adored them.