The Dance Hall 12: Boston Tea Dance Party

[Dobre]

I've not seen much yet, only Lombardia, the Nebelhorn RD, and portions of Lake Placid.

I'm glad to see Guignard & Fabbri use the Robot program as an FD. By the time it is polished, the unison within it should be impressive. I do wish they would add a bit of the fun relationship back in as well.

Carreira & Ponomarenko's RD feels like a good fit for them. It has a unified theme and isn't disco.

To me, disco & techno are so repetitive. They can work very well to wake up a crowd in the middle of an FD event full of warhorses and soft & flowy "I love you" pieces. But if everyone is doing disco, there's a heavy risk of all the programs looking and feeling the same. Also, if you are going to do John Travolta, it carries the same risk as I mentioned last year with Michael Jackson or Paula Abdul. These people are dancers. So you'd better be able to move like them if that's the choice you're making. (And I haven't seen anyone moving like John Travolta yet).

 

[chantilly]

GUI/Fab have a pretty good concept for their FD.
The beginning was great.

The middle section dragged though for me.

And the end choreo lift was a mess.
But early days.

It’s a very different style from them and from what everyone else seems to be doing.

Her neck/ shoulder posture continues to bug me however.

But good on them for picking something so different and something that will make their general lack of expression at least IMO, work for them.

 

[PRlady]

I've not seen much yet, only Lombardia, the Nebelhorn RD, and portions of Lake Placid.

I'm glad to see Guignard & Fabbri use the Robot program as an FD. By the time it is polished, the unison within it should be impressive. I do wish they would add a bit of the fun relationship back in as well.

Carreira & Ponomarenko's RD feels like a good fit for them. It has a unified theme and isn't disco.

To me, disco & techno are so repetitive. They can work very well to wake up a crowd in the middle of an FD event full of warhorses and soft & flowy "I love you" pieces. But if everyone is doing disco, there's a heavy risk of all the programs looking and feeling the same. Also, if you are going to do John Travolta, it carries the same risk as I mentioned last year with Michael Jackson or Paula Abdul. These people are dancers. So you'd better be able to move like them if that's the choice you're making. (And I haven't seen anyone moving like John Travolta yet).

For those who might have forgotten or never knew what disco looked like: https://youtu.be/fT42ocqmI9s?si=WrnsdPoMEZZ0WSW1

 

[Wyliefan]

For those who might have forgotten or never knew what disco looked like: https://youtu.be/fT42ocqmI9s?si=WrnsdPoMEZZ0WSW1

I was so young back then that most of my knowledge of disco came from this: https://www.disneymusicemporium.com...sRTPLg4utuT7P5ZbdcbbjDZFOL9BBrF19z_dB_JlHkv0M

And this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sesame_Disco

 

[skategal]

I was so young back then that most of my knowledge of disco came from this: https://www.disneymusicemporium.com...sRTPLg4utuT7P5ZbdcbbjDZFOL9BBrF19z_dB_JlHkv0M

And this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sesame_Disco

Same with me except I had this one.

Sesame Street Fever - Wikipedia

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[Spikefan]

I had all of those and Rick Dees “Disco Duck”. A junior team really should have done one of these.

 

[PRlady]

Imagining my granddaughter posting in 50 years about loving Taylor Swift when she was little and younger people saying, who?

 

[Wyliefan]

Imagining my granddaughter posting in 50 years about loving Taylor Swift when she was little and younger people saying, who?

Taylor just might be one of those that stand the test of time. When I think that I was listening to her 18 years ago, in her country days, and my 15-year-old goddaughter is a huge fan now, it seems she's figured out the secret of longevity.

 

[PRlady]

Taylor just might be one of those that stand the test of time. When I think that I was listening to her 18 years ago, in her country days, and my 15-year-old goddaughter is a huge fan now, it seems she's figured out the secret of longevity.

She’s only 34. I’ll give her longevity when she gets to the Beatles, Stones and Sinatra.

(But I’ve got songs from her first country album on my playlists.)

 

[Karen-W]

I too have songs from her first country songs on my Playlist. Mostly because older niece was (still is) a huge fan from the get-go. I scoffed and rolled my eyes because she didn't have much vocal talent, but also recognized she could write one heck of a song hook and lyrics, lol.

I haven't listened to her stuff much lately, though to be fair, I haven't had a lot of commuting in the past 4.5 years and now that younger niece (also a Swiftie - the two nieces went to multiple TS North American concerts) is done with her youth group days, I'm not being forced to listen to her music playlists while driving her places, so my pop music exposure has become limited.

But I do maintain that a TS program would be really great and I pray for a waltz pattern next season with the 21st century RD theme.

 

[Karen-W]

In case anyone is interested and needs an ice dance fix that cannot be fulfilled by the JGP this weekend... The TWO new Mexican teams are skating at the Mexican fed's 22nd Annual Hielojuegos Nacionales on Friday & Saturday.

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1	Ava AVERSANO MARTINEZ / Christian BENNETT HILL	EMX
2	Harlow STANLEY / Seiji H URANO	EMX

Bennett was previously partnered with Emma Goodstadt and represented Canada at JGP Istanbul last season. Aversano/Bennett are entered at Budapest Trophy. Stanley previously partnered with Nikita Sosnenko and they competed on the JGP the last two seasons and at Jr Worlds in 2023.

 

[Dobre]

OK, I've watched Lombardia & Nebelhorn; and I'm going to say it:

The pairs have better free music as a discipline this season than the dancers.


The pairs seem to have taken the success of the dueling vampires last season seriously and dug out some more exciting music.

 

[Andrea82]

Laporeva/Brissaud won Masters of France.
More interestingly, Dupayage/Nabais got 2nd over Demougeot/Le Mercier. They were close in the RD, while in the FD, D/N were comfortably ahead (also in terms of PCS).

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[marbri]

Laporeva/Brissaud won Masters of France.
More interestingly, Dupayage/Nabais got 2nd over Demougeot/Le Mercier. They were close in the RD, while in the FD, D/N were comfortably ahead (also in terms of PCS).

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Interesting RD music choices for these two teams. Not sure I would consider these to fit the "dance party" theme the ISU put forth. I like the songs but the vibe when I heard those back in the day was something very different

 

[BlueRidge]

Interesting RD music choices for these two teams. Not sure I would consider these to fit the "dance party" theme the ISU put forth. I like the songs but the vibe when I heard those back in the day was something very different

I've been thinking this. The decade fits but these aren't what I would think of as dance party music.

The Led Zeppelin in particular is not a good choice and can't be construed to fit the theme.

 

[marbri]

I've been thinking this. The decade fits but these aren't what I would think of as dance party music.

The Led Zeppelin in particular is not a good choice and can't be construed to fit the theme.

Agree. And White Rabbit? I mean that's a weird choice. I know the skaters are really young but how old are the coaches and choreographers that they don't know what that song is all about?

On the other hand I just found Lop/Bris RD and Rasputin was definitely a song on playlists at a lot of parties. So there is a French team who understood the assignment.

 

[BlueRidge]

I was thinking maaaaybe you could construe the Jefferson Airplane/Janis Joplin as some kind of drugged out dance party. I wasn't old enough to really know at that point.

Led Zeppelin is my era. I even listened to them, though I can no longer imagine why. But its not dance music. I want D&L-M to do a Stevie Wonder RD using Signed, Sealed, Delivered I'm Yours.

 

[Wyliefan]

Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but didn't they end up discarding the "dance party" theme in favor of "social dances of the '50s, '60s, and '70s"?

 

[Debbie S]

Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but didn't they end up discarding the "dance party" theme in favor of "social dances of the '50s, '60s, and '70s"?

Yes, dance party is next season (music from the 21st century).

 

[BlueRidge]

oh yeah. Well then Led Zeppelin definitely fits "social dances"

What is a "social dance" of the 70s?

 

[Karen-W]

oh yeah. Well then Led Zeppelin definitely fits "social dances"

What is a "social dance" of the 70s?

Funky Flashback: Popular 1970’s Dance Moves | ATOMIC Ballroom | Irvine, CA in Orange County (OC)

With all of the dance crazes that have swept through pop culture over the years, it can be quite a task to remember them all. One era that arguably stood out from the rest was the 1970's. A time period of major political and cultural shift helped to create a unique time of artistic expression

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The Hustle appears to be the most popular '70s dance, also included the Electric Slide, YMCA, Disco Fingers, the Robot,

 

[BlueRidge]

Funky Flashback: Popular 1970’s Dance Moves | ATOMIC Ballroom | Irvine, CA in Orange County (OC)

With all of the dance crazes that have swept through pop culture over the years, it can be quite a task to remember them all. One era that arguably stood out from the rest was the 1970's. A time period of major political and cultural shift helped to create a unique time of artistic expression

atomicballroom.com

The Hustle appears to be the most popular '70s dance, also included the Electric Slide, YMCA, Disco Fingers, the Robot,

The Hustle was disco. I know what the dances of the 70s were, and the 50s and 60s as well. But what is "social dance?"
Is "social dance" supposed to be a music genre? I assumed it was supposed to be a social event, as in people went to "social dances." This confounds me because I never heard of that in the 70s but that doesn't prove anything since I didn't actually go to anything "social" myself at all.

Whatever it is White Rabbit is not it!

 

[jmtfti]

Social dance is generally just used to refer to dances done socially, including ballroom-style dances but also encompassing things like swing, disco, and (particularly for this context, given the '60s styles) novelty dances like the Twist. But I also highly doubt the ISU actually cares if anything done in a RD this season would qualify as a formal dance style because they pretty much always care way less about the niceties of a rhythm dance's stated rules than fans do.

 

[Nmsis]

More interestingly, Dupayage/Nabais got 2nd over Demougeot/Le Mercier. They were close in the RD, while in the FD, D/N were comfortably ahead (also in terms of PCS).

Don't get me started about that.
D/LM got embushed in full daylight.

Agree. And White Rabbit? I mean that's a weird choice.

Arribert's ability to find traditional rythms in other musical genres and periods is a thing.
In that, she's more of an ice dance purist than the ISU.
The ISU's rule hint at a twist or a disco music and you end up with a march and a blues rock.

I know the skaters are really young but how old are the coaches and choreographers that they don't know what that song is all about?

I think they know well enough.

 

[BlueRidge]

Social dance is generally just used to refer to dances done socially, including ballroom-style dances but also encompassing things like swing, disco, and (particularly for this context, given the '60s styles) novelty dances like the Twist. But I also highly doubt the ISU actually cares if anything done in a RD this season would qualify as a formal dance style because they pretty much always care way less about the niceties of a rhythm dance's stated rules than fans do.

so its intended to refer to specific dances, not music, therefore as long as the music has the rhythm that the dance needs it doesn't matter what the music is, other than that in the fine print the ISU requires it be actual music from the 50s-60s-70s. There were only occasional dances in the 70s mostly people just danced with no particular steps or moves; I think this is true. It just wasn't like the old ballroom styles that our grandparents (or if we're really old our parents ) learned from lessons.

Somehow I think the change from dance party to social dances was only to make room for the 21st Century dance party for the Olympic year and that dance party was more or less what was meant as in stuff you'd dance to at a party (or a disco or a club). Not that the ISU cares, really. None of this is of any particular importance to this year's competitions as the coaches and skaters are interested in what the judges will find successful not whatever niceties I'm blathering about in the Trash Can.

I still don't think Led Zeppelin fits the theme, but mostly, I don't think its a good dance for D&L-M. Maybe on a second look I'll get it.

For D&N, White Rabbit aside, I love hearing the Janis Joplin so I say yes that is a good choice

 

[Spikefan]

What is a "social dance" of the 70s?

My dad swaying to his Led Zeppelin.

 

[Andrea82]

The expansion of the field may inadvertedly leads to new dynamics because every ISU member with an entry can nominate a judge. So there may end up with a more diverse panel of judges than usual. In 2021-22-23 it was a very "Eastern" panel. This time, Canada, USA, Australia and Korea may nominate a judge.
Tech Panel will be nominated by organizers. So, they can always select those who give Level 4 also to the Zamboni.

The Denis Ten Memorial ended with a panel with
1) Rent-a-Russian judge for Armenia
2) Georgia. Once suspended for over-scoring Kvitelashvili. Her defence included "I was in line with Babenko"
3) Czechia
4) Rent-a-French judge for Cyprus
5) USA
6) France
7) Yurii from Azerbaijan (who used to be Yurii from Ukraine)
8) The 1993 Hungarian Champion
9) Canada

Tech Panel: Faggioli from Italy as Technical Controller (debut, passed the international exam this summer) with Kristin Fraser and Marie-Louise Gijtenbeek (Netherlands) as Technical Specialists.

Shanghai Trophy Tech Panel: Joanna Budner (Poland), Robi Chalmers (Australia) and Yiyi Zhang (China)

JGP Ljubljana: Hilary Selby with Anna Krytskaya (Belarussian who switched to Poland) and Slavka Grincova (Slovakia)

 

[Marta24]

Mrazeks's new FD costumes

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After two seasons with black costumes, it's nice to see them in something with more colors.

 

[Bigbird]

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[Andrea82]

Laporeva/Brissaud won Masters of France.
More interestingly, Dupayage/Nabais got 2nd over Demougeot/Le Mercier. They were close in the RD, while in the FD, D/N were comfortably ahead (also in terms of PCS).

In one week, Dupayage/Nabais went from beating Demougeot/Le Mercier to losing the Free Dance to Reitan/Majorov at Denis Ten Memorial.

Reitan/Majorov achieved the revised minimum TES for Worlds.

Question about citizenships: has Romain Le Gac Canadian citizenship?


Race to Junior Grand Prix Final
Already qualified:

Noemi Maria TALI / Noah LAFORNARA 30 points
Iryna PIDGAINA / Artem KOVAL 28
Celina FRADJI / Jean-Hans FOURNEAUX 28
Katarina WOLFKOSTIN / Dimitry TSAREVSKI 28
Darya GRIMM / Michail SAVITSKIY 26

Then for the last spot:

Caroline MULLEN / Brendan MULLEN 24 (2nd + 3rd place, 317.58 points overall)

Last JGP have
Elliana PEAL / Ethan PEAL 11 points
Ambre PERRIER GIANESINI / Samuel BLANC KLAPERMAN 9 points
Chloe NGUYEN / Brendan GIANG 9 points
Perrier Gianesini/Blanc Klaperman and Nguyen/Giang need to win. They would go to 24 points and with a 1st place they would win the tiebreaker against the Mullens and the Peals (who would be at best at 24 with a 2nd and 3rd place).

If Peals win, they are qualified. 11+15=26 points
If they finish 2nd, they would need 165.04 to win a tiebreaker against the Mullens. But they would need someone other than Perrier/Blanc and Nguyen/Giang winning in Wuxi, otherwise 2nd place would be not enough.