You're not doing Aleona any favors by suggesting that she switched coaches for "love reasons" in a pre-Olympic year.....As for Alyona - probaly she would have been way too sad to take it if she had stayed with Eteri after Sergei left. So she had to follow him. I am sure she is deeply in love with him.
Its too soon but there are some disappointing things going on. Particularly like how hes been treated by a variety of people. This would not be tolerated you know where.I don't think Rozanov's choices were bad or unreasonable - everyone does what's best for themselves and enables them to accomplish their own goals. I do wonder how he feels about how it's worked out, but maybe it's way too soon to judge that.
Wow you said a mouthful!We don't know yet how it worked out yet..... or what he was actually promised. But he certainly did not take into consideration how flaky Plushenko and more so his wife Rudkovskaya are and their reputation, and history of how they treat people. Rozanov went for "fast and easy", and as a saying goes "тише едешь, дальше будешь" - "going slow, it will get you further" or "to gain ground, you need to slow down".
Plushenko likes "public approval" and "attention". If he reads and hears a lot of disapproval, he may pull a stunt to "show them all" and promote Rozanov to his partner, or give him a fancy title, or pay him a million...... that is if Yana, his wife, will let him.....
Having a crush does not require drastic life-changing decisions. We all have "crushes" but we don't make career altering choices and move... .She could not take it anymore to be without Seryozhi. Plus, you said the same several months ago - that Alyona has a crush on Sergei. You think the same.
The "boy" is also her coach and relatively older, he has a responsibility not to ruin her Olympic chances. They can spend time with each other after practices, even if they are at different rinks. It's stupid to "live and work together", the magic goes away quickly, plus Aleona left a "winning coach" who had her in 1st places the whole season.... How dumb can they both be? (Aleona and Rozanov).And if she indeed switched coaches for love reasons in the Pre-Olympic year - so what? It is not the girl's fault. She could not help it. The boy is gorgeous.
Eteri was teaching him how to become a better coach, that's worth all the "publicity" for a starting coach. Rozanov has been a coach for just a few years.As for Sergei - The fact the almost no one knew about him before he left Team Eteri shows what "visibility" they gave him.
His beauty means nothing as a coach. He thought he was going to get sasha Zhilina sisters and Aliona. now he only has aliona.I do not think Sergei regrets it. I hope not. Now he is worldwide famous coach and people admire his beauty. When he was still with Eteri almost no one knew about his existence.
As for Alyona - probaly she would have been way too sad to take it if she had stayed with Eteri after Sergei left. So she had to follow him. I am sure she is deeply in love with him.
Not working now with Zhilina sisters is the saddest part. They were "his" the whole time at Khrystalniy. He was 100% devoted to them and their development. He even got rid of a girl in their group who was Veronika Zhilina's "biggest competition". That girl's mother later posted the whole story on russian social media accusing Rozanov of getting rid of her girl in favor of Zhilina.His beauty means nothing as a coach. He thought he was going to get sasha Zhilina sisters and Aliona. now he only has aliona.
Then you're reading the wrong english language forums..... Rozanov the Handsome has been a subject of discussion her on FSU for a while now, and often mentioned on GS.Again... Almost no one knew who he is before his departure from TT. I have been reading many English language forums and many Russian language forums. People are saying the same thing - that they learned who he is after he joined PA and not before that.
Not true at all. Alyona Zhilina was never in Team Eteri.Not working now with Zhilina sisters is the saddest part. They were "his" the whole time at Khrystalniy. He was 100% devoted to them and their development. He even got rid of a girl in their group who was Veronika Zhilina's "the biggest competition". That girl's mother later posted the whole story on russian social media accusing Rozanov of getting rid of her girl in favor of Zhilina.
I am not surprised that Sasha did not want to work with him when she thought it was Rozanov who brought over Kostornaya. The two girls had issues before, and Sasha was happy to leave "it" all behind, but that did not happen.. ... Aleona followed her few months later.
You need to read more carefully. I said Zhilinas was "Rozanov's project", not "TeamTutberidze", although Veronika was taught quads by Dudakov (there are vids him holding a fishing pole and she jumping).Not true at all. Alyona Zhilina was never in Team Eteri.
Then that was another incident, that has nothing to do with Zhilina's at Khrystalny ...... Parsegova is at Plushenko's rink, skating with Zhilinas....Not true at all either about the girl's mother who accused him. She accused him that he favoured Parsegova over her daughter and not Zhilina. It is on YouTube in Russian.
Agreed.Not working now with Zhilina sisters is the saddest part. They were "his" the whole time at Khrystalniy. He was 100% devoted to them and their development. He even got rid of a girl in their group who was Veronika Zhilina's "biggest competition". That girl's mother later posted the whole story on russian social media accusing Rozanov of getting rid of her girl in favor of Zhilina.
I am not surprised that Sasha did not want to work with him when she thought it was Rozanov who brought over Kostornaya. The two girls had issues before, and Sasha was happy to leave "it" all behind, but that did not happen.. ... Aleona followed her few months later, and Sasha blames Rozanov.
Awesome!Stanislava Konstantinova's solo in "Swan Lake"/Plushenko's show.
Veronika is a little girl and had nothing to do with it. I would look towards adults (parent and coach)... . This "issue" started before Veronika even saw "that girl". Rozanov did not want this girl skating in Khrystalniy from the day she came for trials. This girl came to trials twice, both times Rozanov refused her. Then she came the third time, when Eteri was personally present with Rozanov, and Eteri liked "that other girl" and told Rozanov to take her. Then later Rozanov got rid of her by giving her hardly any attention during practices. The mother of that girl made a point saying that Rozanov spent all his time with Zhilinas but ignored "her girl", and that he did it intentionally.Agreed.
Veronika is fantastic. But if she was really upset about having competition in her group that's not a good sign.
What do you mean by that? Rozanov was part of Team Eteri and he trained Veronika then, but I highly doubt that he ever trained Alyona Zhilina before PA.You need to read more carefully. I said Zhilinas was "Rozanov's project", not "TeamTutberidze", although Veronika was taught quads by Dudakov (there are vids him holding a fishing pole and she jumping).
Then that was another incident, that has nothing to do with Zhilina's at Khrystalny ...... Parsegova is at Plushenko's rink, skating with Zhilinas....
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There is another mother then who dislikes Zhilina sisters even now...... there are lots of mothers at these high profile rinks, and they all have photo and video features on their mobile phone..... which is fun for us...What do you mean by that? Rozanov was part of Team Eteri and he trained Veronika then, buy I highly doubt that he ever trained Alyona Zhilina before PA.
I did not get your second statement either. Parsegova was part of Team Eteri and later joined PA. When she was still part of Team Eteri the accident with the mother's girl happened. The mother girl's accused Rozanov that he was favours Parsegova over her daughter. This mother really dislikes Parsegova even now.
Well that's disappointing to learn.Veronika is a little girl and had nothing to do with it. I would look towards adults (parent and coach)... . This "issue" started before Veronika even saw "that girl". Rozanov did not want this girl skating in Khrystalniy from the day she came for trials. This girl came to trials twice, both times Rozanov refused her. Then she came the third time, when Eteri was personally present with Rozanov, and Eteri liked "that other girl" and told Rozanov to take her. Then later Rozanov got rid of her by giving her hardly any attention during practices. The mother of that girl made a point saying that Rozanov spent all his time with Zhilinas but ignored "her girl", and that he did it intentionally.
I don't know about that other girl, her mother has not made any comments since then.Well that's disappointing to learn.
It really is a jungle out there with the Russian ladies and girls.
What ever happened to the other girl? Is she still skating?
That is bad. Some unethical things going on.I don't know about that other girl, her mother has not made any comments since then.
As to "jungle", yes..... and it starts with parents often. Unfortunately there is an illegal practice at some of the rinks and with some parents and coaches - parent paying a coach on side (above the monthly group fee) so that he/she pays more attention to your kid during group training sessions. And then there is another practice, initiated by some coaches: they tell a parent "your kid is so gifted, he/she needs extra time alone" (for a fee of course), so besides group training, the coach "sells" his/her private lessons time.
Just for the record, top coaches like Mishin, Buyanova, Tutberidze, Dudakov, Davydov, etc., don't do this naturally. But sometimes lower level coaches that manage younger groups, yes they do that. Skating parents often talk about it on Russian chats, that they have to pay "extra" on side to get better attention for their child. Few parents asked coaches "why must we pay extra" were told by coaches "we are getting minimal salaries and yet we have to handle 20 kids in a group, we don't have enough eyes for everybody, so if you want extra, you need to pay". Or, sometimes it is "understood" and parents don't ask questions, offer the "extras" themselves, or just pay when asked.That is bad. Some unethical things going on.
I cannot confirm anything and I did not confirm anything. I never said that they have an affair. But that one of them probably has feelings. That is.Then you're reading the wrong english language forums..... Rozanov the Handsome has been a subject of discussion her on FSU for a while now, and often mentioned on GS.
As to supposed "Rozanov/Kostornaya" relationship..... you're not doing them any favors but making statements that confirm their affair.
I hope it is not true. Maybe this particular mother is just jealous of Sergei's amazing beauty. He deserves to be a millionaire because of his looks and so is Alyona.Just for the record, top coaches like Mishin, Buyanova, Tutberidze, Dudakov, Davydov, etc., don't do this naturally. But sometimes lower level coaches that manage younger groups, yes they do that. Skating parents often talk about it on Russian chats, that they have to pay "extra" on side to get better attention for their child. Few parents asked coaches "why must we pay extra" were told by coaches "we are getting minimal salaries and yet we have to handle 20 kids in a group, we don't have enough eyes for everybody, so if you want extra, you need to pay". Or, sometimes it is "understood" and parents don't ask questions, offer the "extras" themselves, or just pay when asked.
nobody is stopping them from trying to become models...I hope it is not true. Maybe this particular mother is just jealous of Sergei's amazing beauty. He deserves to be a millionaire because of his looks and so is Alyona.
It sounds like some of the lower level ooaches are making some money on the side. It's not very ethical from the coaches or the parents weather so desperate to get their kids to a higher level coach it makes some sense that it's happening. Humans are flawed and we know that.Just for the record, top coaches like Mishin, Buyanova, Tutberidze, Dudakov, Davydov, etc., don't do this naturally. But sometimes lower level coaches that manage younger groups, yes they do that. Skating parents often talk about it on Russian chats, that they have to pay "extra" on side to get better attention for their child. Few parents asked coaches "why must we pay extra" were told by coaches "we are getting minimal salaries and yet we have to handle 20 kids in a group, we don't have enough eyes for everybody, so if you want extra, you need to pay". Or, sometimes it is "understood" and parents don't ask questions, offer the "extras" themselves, or just pay when asked.
I think Aliona seems to be the one for which the hiatus because of the ***** hit at the worst time; I think under normal circumstances she wouldn't be having these issues with the triple axel and whatever else is going on.
Only thing I'd argue, and I did so in the Nationals PBP, is if the top 3 skate like they did again (or someone else age-eligible storms to the top), then 3As alone for Alena might not be enough to keep up. When the National judges have all of the top ladies between 9.00-9.75 on PCS, it all comes down to the TES.I actually think it could be the best time. If she's growing, she'd be struggling anyway, and at least this season there is no GPF and Euros for her to have to defend, and probably no Worlds either. Missing nationals wasn't as big of a deal and she had a legitimate excuse. If it works out right, maybe she can use spring and summer to get her jumps back and be on form for the Olympic season.
STAAAAAAAHP!!!I hope it is not true. Maybe this particular mother is just jealous of Sergei's amazing beauty. He deserves to be a millionaire because of his looks and so is Alyona.
At this point we just need to see her back skatng in the Russian cup final and then whatever they have after that domestically.Only thing I'd argue, and I did so in the Nationals PBP, is if the top 3 skate like they did again (or someone else age-eligible storms to the top), then 3As alone for Alena might not be enough to keep up. When the National judges have all of the top ladies between 9.00-9.75 on PCS, it all comes down to the TES.
Stanislava Konstantinova's solo in "Swan Lake"/Plushenko's show.