Russian figure skating news in 2024

caseyedwards

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We actually need to know if people are paid to post here, whether for commercial or political reasons.

Professionally I’ve been aware of paid influencers in other areas, it’s a common strategy nowadays.
It’s a stupid question based on dislike of my opinion and question in this matter. What does implicit nonverbal support of the war mean and how can anyone be eligible with such a standard
 

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Gumennik’s LP from today

Others can also be found here if you scroll down
That was really good from Gumennik he has the athleticism and artistry.
 

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In a fit of insomnia, I checked out the Russian GP Final. I only caught the replay BoiKov's LP. Sasha popped an axel, Dima fell on a 3t, Sasha two-footed a throw. They were a mess. They're all hugs and cuddles in the knc, after the SP Eteri probably told them to shut up and play nice.

There was a new commentator whose voice I didn't recognize. The chat on rutube said it was Vladimir Morozov, and apparently he's doing quite well. I didn't understand much of what he was saying, except for the deep sad sigh at the end of BoiKov's program.

The top 3 all have to sit together on a bench. It's very crowded for pairs, I expect an awkward wait for the rest of the competition.
 

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BoiKovs will move up to a medal. Mukhortova/Evgeniev biffed a lift, they are second to last in the LP.

If Khabibulina/Knyazhuk are ever allowed to compete internationally they could do a lot of damage. They landed a 3z but she fell on a 3r. No double sals for them! I was hoping Vladimir Morozov would have some kind of ginger solidarity moment with Knyazhuk, but alas not.

MishGal killed it in their LP. They'll win by eleventy billion points but I am getting tired of their medley LP shtick. If they get chosen for the Olympics I hope they're given more serious programs.
 

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BoiKovs will move up to a medal. Mukhortova/Evgeniev biffed a lift, they are second to last in the LP.

If Khabibulina/Knyazhuk are ever allowed to compete internationally they could do a lot of damage. They landed a 3z but she fell on a 3r. No double sals for them! I was hoping Vladimir Morozov would have some kind of ginger solidarity moment with Knyazhuk, but alas not.

MishGal killed it in their LP. They'll win by eleventy billion points but I am getting tired of their medley LP shtick. If they get chosen for the Olympics I hope they're given more serious programs.
As much as I admire Moskvina, I never understand her music choices for her teams. And, she picks the music. But, she somehow manages to get skaters to the top of the field and M/G truly are the best in the world right now. Mishina is a machine in her consistency. I hope Moskvina gives them something marvelous to skate to by fall.

It was pretty clear Tutberidze had a conversation with B/K after the SP. I don't know what happened to them this season. Their first comp was brilliant and I really thought they'd pass M/G, but it has steadily gone down hill for them ever since. Mistakes in every event. The programs are actually better than M/Gs and they clearly have the talent, but the disconnect between the two of them is getting wider. I really wonder how much longer they'll stay together as a team. This quad of not being able to compete internationally has taken a toll on some of the skaters.

ETA if you only watch one of the women, watch Anna Frolova. Just pure skating joy. Adelia is having issues with her usually reliable 3A and she made a smart decision in the FS to skate through it. Apparently the take off didn't feel right so she just didn't do it and then went on to skate the rest of the program flawlessly. Two quads and an easy win. Alina Gorbacheva landed one quad and fell on her 2nd. She's been injured and not jumping the quads, but I guess they felt she needed to go for them today. Mura fell apart in the FS as she typically does. The podium was three As again: Adelia, Alina and Anna. The fed will most likely name Alina as the reserve, but if it were my choice, it would be Anna.
 
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What is Russia's obssesion with emaciated ice dancers? What they've done to Vasilisa is crazy...she is a shell of herself with little or no real power. I much prefered their performances earlier in the season...what I saw today was disappointing and weak. She had little control of her blade. I understand completely the reservations of some countries towards Russia's return to international competitions.
Which is why Betina Popova, Elena ilinykh, and to some extent Alla Loboda(although I found her sloppy) where cast aside for the likes of Stepanova and Sinitsina simply because they are light pretty, and can be flung around like ragdolls by their partners. The Russian system pays too much attention to the "men". It seems men need to be "protected" as they easily get "injured" if they skate with a curvy partner.
 

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Which is why Betina Popova, Elena ilinykh, and to some extent Alla Loboda(although I found her sloppy) where cast aside for the likes of Stepanova and Sinitsina simply because they are light pretty, and can be flung around like ragdolls by their partners. The Russian system pays too much attention to the "men". It seems men need to be "protected" as they easily get "injured" if they skate with a curvy partner.
This is Russian Ice Dance. They have traditions and a certain standard to which their ice dancers are held. After watching Kag/Nek I watched Pas/Nek, it was like watching chalk and cheese. The latter was a lot more impressive as a team, but Liza was not considered light and airy enough, or whatever were the personal issues. I found Nekrasov much more interesting with her. With Kag, just like Katsalapov was with Sinitsina, there is very little zest, but rather neatness and cleanliness to achieve their levels. Russian ice dance doesn't exist to enthral but to win medals, that's it.
 

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This is Russian Ice Dance. They have traditions and a certain standard to which their ice dancers are held. After watching Kag/Nek I watched Pas/Nek, it was like watching chalk and cheese. The latter was a lot more impressive as a team, but Liza was not considered light and airy enough, or whatever were the personal issues. I found Nekrasov much more interesting with her. With Kag, just like Katsalapov was with Sinitsina, there is very little zest, but rather neatness and cleanliness to achieve their levels. Russian ice dance doesn't exist to enthral but to win medals, that's it.
I now worry for Liza Paschenik, as she has a "curvy" look and being coached by Krylova doesn't help. My only hope is for Liza to stand her ground.
 

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I now worry for Liza Paschenik, as she has a "curvy" look and being coached by Krylova doesn't help. My only hope is for Liza to stand her ground.
They will find him a new partner. She's just honestly outgrown him. Nekrasov was a much better fit. But now I understand Trankov's dislike of some things Russian Figure Skating. His words, "you are just a piece of meat". I hope she's strong. Male partners are hard to find and they are usually fairly small to just above average. Look at them.
 

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Would someone more familiar with the current state of Russian ice dance be able to provide a list of which teams are training with which coaches?

I know Zhulin has Stepanova/Bukin and Linichuk is still coaching but kicked Angelopol out of her school again, and I think Krylova is coaching but have no idea if she has any teams of note.

Thanks!
 

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Would someone more familiar with the current state of Russian ice dance be able to provide a list of which teams are training with which coaches?

I know Zhulin has Stepanova/Bukin and Linichuk is still coaching but kicked Angelopol out of her school again, and I think Krylova is coaching but have no idea if she has any teams of note.

Thanks!
I have not paid attention to much Russian ice dance lately so I'll leave your first question to others. But Krylova was working with Team Mozer in the pairs event.
 

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Who do you think are the top 6 of the Russian men?

Another wish for Anna Frolova to keep skating.
 

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Who do you think are the top 6 of the Russian men?

Another wish for Anna Frolova to keep skating.
. Dikidzhe and Gumennik are pretty even. Vlad has better TES and Petyr has way better PCS. His problem is URs with a really strict caller but he's on par with all the US men except Malinin, the rest of the Europeans and it depends on the day with the Japanese men. Dikidzhe is jumping a 4A pretty consistently in practice, but hasn't put it into competition yet. My guess is he will get the qualifier spot with Gumennik the alternate or just the reverse. I think they already knew that at the Cup Final just based on reactions from Mishin and his skaters, but that's just projection. I personally think Lutfullin is better than Semenenko, but neither have been consistent enough and neither is Mark.

There is a really promising youngster coming: Ugoshev. He's still pretty wild, but he's showing a lot of progress. If they get to compete this next quad, he and Dikidzhe are the two most likely to be viable. There are some really good juniors, but they're still kids and who knows how they'll develop over time.
 
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Who do you think are the top 6 of the Russian men?
IMO, the top guys are Gumennik and Dikidzhi. The latter didn't medal at the Russian GPF but he's the Russian answer to the Ilia's quad axel. The rest are more or less in an inconsistent clump together: Kondratiuk, Semenenko, Ignatov, Lutfulin. Mozalev hasn't done well this season so he has a lot of catching up to do. The former European medalists like Aliev and moreso Danielan are pretty much cooked and done.
 

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Would someone more familiar with the current state of Russian ice dance be able to provide a list of which teams are training with which coaches?

I know Zhulin has Stepanova/Bukin and Linichuk is still coaching but kicked Angelopol out of her school again, and I think Krylova is coaching but have no idea if she has any teams of note.

Thanks!
Zhulin: Stepanova/Bukin, Khuda/Bazin

Krylova and Gorshkov: Pasechnik/Chirizano (mostly coached by Krylova), Kaganovskaya/Nerkrasov (mostly coached by Gorshkov)

Samokhin: Khavronina/Narizhny

Zhuk/Svinin: Leontieva/Gorelkin

Elena Sokolova: Mironova/Ustenko (the only St Petersburg team)
 

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And we got another classic quote from Moskvina:
– Could it happen that a talented but already quite mature young woman, after competing in singles, comes to you and says: "Tamara Nikolaevna, I want to switch to pairs"? Would you teach her?
– If this young woman possesses technically difficult elements - at least two triple jumps - if her appearance fits pair skating, and her height-to-weight ratio is good, then why not? We can teach her within a season.
– But we had Alena Kostornaia. Would you have taken her?
– I wouldn’t have.
– Why?
– Because I want to stay in good health until I’m a hundred years old.
– A comprehensive answer... I don’t even know what to say. Straight to the point.
– She and her partner have a coach who is working with them.
– In your opinion, does Kostornaia have better potential as a singles skater or as a pairs skater?
– She has good motor skills and strong technique, so she is a good pairs skater. But to become truly great athletes, skaters need to develop a strong connection with their partner and the ability to overcome psychological challenges.
 

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Trankov shared on his social media that Valery Tiukov passed away today in Perm

 

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Kamila Valieva participated in an event organized by Movement of the First, which "re-educates" abducted Ukrainian children. Vadym Kolesnik shared this in an Instagram story.
 

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Kamila Valieva participated in an event organized by Movement of the First, which "re-educates" abducted Ukrainian children. Vadym Kolesnik shared this in an Instagram story.
Definitely at least implicit nonverbal support! But she hasn’t been submitted for consideration and can’t be. If she does train with Petrosian and she gets accepted does this mean Petrosian is guilty of implicit nonverbal by being in the same place as Valieva? I mean no one deny Valieva is military and intelligence now. I was assuming she returning and was total Russian women’s champ favorite of 2026.
 
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Sofia Muravieva switched from Angels of Pluschenko to Mishin.
There was some drama around it and another crazy skating mom alert, but on paper it can be a good move
her problem is her self-confidence or rather lack thereof.
 

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Khudaberdieva/Bazin announced their retirement
 

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