Russian figure skating news in 2023

[Ananas Astra]

the contract included even a compensation of 50000 rubles for every instance of "moral damage" caused by Vasilisa.
So everytime he'd do his emo show, he'd blame her and demand the money.

Whoever thought this was a brilliant PR stunt for Angelopol deserves to be fired. Dude single-handedly destroyed his own career. I hope nobody will care now how talented he is, he is obviously abusive, manipulative and delusional.
I hope he gets help because this is NOT normal "stupid teenage" behavior.

 

[Ananas Astra]

It's also funny that only yesterday he was selling his merch, offering promo-codes for the first 20 or so people to order and keeping everyone posted how popular his brand is.
It was smart to do it before this story became public because otherwise no one would've bought his crap. Pretty much everyone is on Vasilisa's side now.
Fellow skaters like Khuda, Usacheva, Thauron and others have sided openly with Vasilisa.

 

[Karen-W]

It's also funny that only yesterday he was selling his merch, offering promo-codes for the first 20 or so people to order and keeping everyone posted how popular his brand is.
It was smart to do it before this story became public because otherwise no one would've bought his crap. Pretty much everyone is on Vasilisa's side now.
Fellow skaters like Khuda, Usacheva, Thauron and others have sided openly with Vasilisa.

Heheh - at this point, the only way he has a career is if some rich western European/North American girl's family is willing to pay for his services - and that's contingent on Russia releasing him too. And before you say "he's marked himself as toxic" - that won't stop someone who is desperate enough to get their daughter to international competitions.

 

[Lara111]

Heheh - at this point, the only way he has a career is if some rich western European/North American girl's family is willing to pay for his services - and that's contingent on Russia releasing him too. And before you say "he's marked himself as toxic" - that won't stop someone who is desperate enough to get their daughter to international competitions.

Well he has rights to sell his skills. He is not different from many guys skating in US who are from Ukrain or Russia.In addition, it is a good and smart idea to get out of Russia right now.

 

[Ananas Astra]

Heheh - at this point, the only way he has a career is if some rich western European/North American girl's family is willing to pay for his services - and that's contingent on Russia releasing him too. And before you say "he's marked himself as toxic" - that won't stop someone who is desperate enough to get their daughter to international competitions.

He has already said that he will never skate for any other country than Russia. But then again...in that interview he also said he'd always skate with Vasilisa and in Krylova's group...
Moreover, he is a rich kid anyway, he doesn't really "need" the money earned by skating.

I just hope Vasilisa can find a better partner and pull a Rodnina or Mishina. It would piss him and his ego off more than anything else.

Russian media is going nuts I have just found an article which downright insults Angelopol about how his behavior is not "manly" at all, as he claimed in his first comment about this shitshow.

 

[Karen-W]

He has already said that he will never skate for any other country than Russia. But then again...in that interview he also said he'd always skate with Vasilisa and in Krylova's group...
Moreover, he is a rich kid anyway, he doesn't really "need" the money earned by skating.

Well, but also factor in his ego, which clearly is enormous, and how much of a need his ego has to win.

I just hope Vasilisa can find a better partner and pull a Rodnina or Mishina. It would piss him and his ego off more than anything else.

Oh, definitely! It would be sweet justice.

Russian media is going nuts I have just found an article which downright insults Angelopol about how his behavior is not "manly" at all, as he claimed in his first comment about this shitshow.

You know you've really stepped in it when even the Russian media is calling you out for being a misogynistic a$$hole, lol.

 

[Ananas Astra]

I still can't believe that Angelopol took Mirzoev (Mishina's ex-partner who dumped her for being "too fat") and Katsalapov (actually, K/A were the first couple that made me invested in Ice Dance again after Nikita dumped Elena and destroyed my dreams) and outdid them both just splendidly and will now be the most-hated guy in figure skating. A couple of hours earlier he was one of the most popular ones among the teenagers and TikTok users.
He deserves an A+ in "How to destroy your career and reputation in 3 seconds" and the OGM in the category "Biggest Douchebag in Figure Skating".

 

[Cherub721]

It's also funny that only yesterday he was selling his merch, offering promo-codes for the first 20 or so people to order and keeping everyone posted how popular his brand is.
It was smart to do it before this story became public because otherwise no one would've bought his crap. Pretty much everyone is on Vasilisa's side now.
Fellow skaters like Khuda, Usacheva, Thauron and others have sided openly with Vasilisa.

What "merch" would he even sell?

 

[Ananas Astra]

What "merch" would he even sell?

T-Shirts, caps and accessories with some strange Angelopol-logo and "deep" quotes.
It was wayyyyyy too expensive for the crap he was actually offering, but he used to be very popular until a couple of hours ago and it was also only sold for a limited amount of time like a week or so. So he made a lot of money with that. I think, most of the buyers will feel bad about it now .

It's all on his Telegram-channel: https://t.me/VAngelopol

Of course, he has turned off the comments .

 

[skatingguy]

God - the Canadian troll is going to never shut up about this because it's been saying this team wouldn't last for a couple years now.

Just for the record the troll in question said they were no longer in Canada, and no longer had to be loyal to Canadians, so thankfully they are now someone else's problem.

 

[Wyliefan]

Just for the record the troll in question said they were no longer in Canada, and no longer had to be loyal to Canadians, so thankfully they are now someone else's problem.

Seriously??

 

[On My Own]

I had to sit and stare at "Kaganovskaia/Angelopol" for 5 minutes to remember who they even were.

 

[Ananas Astra]

I had to sit and stare at "Kaganovskaia/Angelopol" for 5 minutes to remember who they even were.

They used to be the most promising Russian Ice Dance pair since Ilinykh/Katsalapov who also had a...uhm...not so nice ending.

 

[On My Own]

They used to be the most promising Russian Ice Dance pair since Ilinykh/Katsalapov who also had a...uhm...not so nice ending.

Pretty sure they had twitter hype too, now that I'm recollecting.

Now looking at twitter, they're trying to say that tiktokers are going to be heartbroken. I have no idea (why people even use tiktok).

 

[Karen-W]

Just for the record the troll in question said they were no longer in Canada, and no longer had to be loyal to Canadians, so thankfully they are now someone else's problem.

Sure, it said that, but then continued to diss all non-Canadian teams that might displace its beloved Canadians.

Seriously??

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure it was all leis leis leis!

 

[Ananas Astra]

Pretty sure they had twitter hype too, now that I'm recollecting.

Now looking at twitter, they're trying to say that tiktokers are going to be heartbroken. I have no idea (why people even use tiktok).

They were pretty huge on TikTok, there are thousands of fan vids of them, most of them, of course, shipping them etc.

 

[Ananas Astra]

Considering Vasilisa ended their relationship after only 3 months, we can only imagine how toxic that one must have been.

Oh, and some person on Twitter posted this. I can confirm the subtitles are correct because I watched that live on Instagram. https://twitter.com/vmstagemom/status/1697290738344546679

 

[4rkidz]

Sure, it said that, but then continued to diss all non-Canadian teams that might displace its beloved Canadians.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure it was all leis leis leis!

Are you really calling someone ‘it’? Really?

 

[Karen-W]

Are you really calling someone ‘it’? Really?

What's the problem with calling the Canadian troll "it"? The last time I checked, "it" is the pronoun in the singular as opposed to "they" which is a pronoun in the plural. That makes the use of "it" for a single poster, like our good Canadian troll is, more grammatically correct than the faddish "they." Or do you believe that the Canadian troll suffers from dissociative identity disorder?

 

[irenemulindwairen]

What a stupid young and arrogant boy he is.

 

[xxibjt]

I am very happy to see the Russian skating community rally around and support Vasilisa. I’m sure she’ll find a partner in no time. One that will treat her with the respect she deserves. Valiery on the other hand, I can’t fathom who would want to go near him with a 10ft pole now. Hopefully he learns to treat his partner with respect in the future and stop letting personal feelings get in the way of his professionalism.

 

[Bigbird]

I am very happy to see the Russian skating community rally around and support Vasilisa. I’m sure she’ll find a partner in no time. One that will treat her with the respect she deserves. Valiery on the other hand, I can’t fathom who would want to go near him with a 10ft pole now. Hopefully he learns to treat his partner with respect in the future and stop letting personal feelings get in the way of his professionalism.

Please that never stopped Katsalapov from finding Sinitsina and getting unwavering support from Zhulin and the Federation. This after Katsalapov publicly outed Zhulin and almost everyone he's ever worked with as inadequate or unprofessional..#eyeroll

I think the truth lies in Krylova's words. He does not want to skate anymore with anyone for reasons he'll never disclose. Something happened or is happening behind the scenes or he's just gutted. He comes from a wealthy family, he didn't need Vasilisa to support him financially. It seems to me he was just dumping her before they got rid of him. They just outgrew each other physically and where would this all lead? What would be his motivation for staying considering how easily Russian specialists can dump a couple? Then considering the time and money invested he had to make as big a mess as possible. He succeeded.. I think the actual truth will never be known. Now we wait....

 

[Wyliefan]

"Gutted" people don't behave like this. Spoiled brats behave like this.

 

[Bigbird]

"Gutted" people don't behave like this. Spoiled brats behave like this.

You have a point...but this is Russia...Skaters are "owned"...by the Federation, so if you want out, you'd better let them hate you. He never seemed spoiled to me, maybe emotionally affected...depressive state. Katsalapov is spoiled and entitled but very shrewed...but this, this is something else.

 

[sap5]

"Gutted" people don't behave like this. Spoiled brats behave like this.

I don't know. I think a gutted person can self-sabotage like this -- i.e. create a offer they'd know would be wholly rejected. It's like when you hate yourself and you're just seeking confirmation that your self-hate is valid. But I don't know if that's the case here.

 

[Bigbird]

I don't know. I think a gutted person can self-sabotage like this -- i.e. create a offer they'd know would be wholly rejected. It's like when you hate yourself and you're just seeking confirmation that your self-hate is valid. But I don't know if that's the case here.

You said it for me more clearly.

 

[Ananas Astra]

Apparently, Mama Angelopol has entered the game...

 

[Wyliefan]

Well, now, you can't just drop that and walk away! Elaborate, please!

 

[Ananas Astra]

Mama Angelopol has pretty much said that the whole contract was Krylova's idea.
The plot thickens.

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Танцевальный дуэт Кагановская и Ангелопол распался по обоюдному решению партнеров. Позднее Василиса заявила, что Валерий предлагал ее подписать контракт, по которому она должна была взять его на полное обеспечение.

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[Dobre]

When I saw them skate, which was very rarely, I thought Kaganovskaya was the one with the "it" factor.

Think I'll leave this conversation at that.