Russian figure skating news in 2023

[rfisher]

No, she didn't. Adelia Petrosyan was the one who WD and she somehow made the final over the third alternate. I read that Trusova's back is bothering her again. The show competition at the same time as worlds, yeah if I'm in the mood to watch skating on that weekend I'll definitely prioritize worlds. If I'm not in the mood, I'll be planning my mum's birthday party

Trusova skated the SP only in her first event and WD due to injury. She WD from the second before it o splopcheduled. So, all she did was half of one event. Petrosyan did one full event and medaled so she had points. Sasha had none.

Given the show event is targeted at a Russian audience, I doubt Channel 1 neither expects nor cares if anybody outside Russia watches. And, I suspect the Russian audience wouldn't be watching Worlds with none of their skaters so I really don't see why anybody cares about the scheduling.

 

[Lilia A]

Trusova skated the SP only in her first event and WD due to injury. She WD from the second before it o splopcheduled. So, all she did was half of one event. Petrosyan did one full event and medaled so she had points. Sasha had none.

No, she competed twice. She WD from the LP at the test event when she was still with Tutka. I just looked at the season stats. She got a bronze at the event in Sochi and a silver at the event in Samara and was 6th in the qualifier for the finals. How is that half an event and no points? Look it up if you don't believe me.

 

[Trusova]

The Russian Cup Final competition is this week.

Results after junior women's short program.

1. Daria Sadkova - 72.61
2. Veronika Zhilina - 71.75
3. Maria Gordeeva - 70.0
4. Agata Petrova - 69.67
5. Elizaveta Kulikova - 68.91
6. Alisa Yurova - 68.06
7. Sofia Titova - 67.79

 

[rfisher]

I was watching the junior men and doing other things at the same time. This kid was skating to a Spanish guitar piece of music and i looked up to see him wearing all black except the front of his pants down to the knees was bright red. All I could think was the bull gored him in the groin. Then he did a matedor move in the step sequence and I was and at the same time. I've seen a lot of bizarre costumes, but this had to be the top of the list.

 

[kwanfan1818]

Given the show event is targeted at a Russian audience, I doubt Channel 1 neither expects nor cares if anybody outside Russia watches. And, I suspect the Russian audience wouldn't be watching Worlds with none of their skaters so I really don't see why anybody cares about the scheduling.

But think of those who will have to sacrifice themselves to fill up the ISU feed chat with all of those charming messages about how no one can skate and how it isn't really a competition

 

[rfisher]

But think of those who will have to sacrifice themselves to fill up the ISU feed chat with all of those charming messages about how no one can skate and how it isn't really a competition

I've learned to ignore the chats


This kid just did 4 Lz 2a 2a combo and nailed it. I dont know who he is because i can't translate fast enough, but that was amazing. He also had a hard fall, but otherwise.

 

[rfisher]

I know everybody loves to hate Danny G's choreo, but I just saw one of the best WSS programs by a kid who is only 13 or so.. He just won the junior men comp. What a future this kid has if he stays healthy. He had the jumps, but his skating was mesmerizing.beyond the jumps.

 

[Rina RUS]

I just saw one of the best WSS programs by a kid who is only 13 or so.. He just won the junior men comp.

The name of the winner is Arseny Fedotov

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This boy won in “The Ice Age. Kids” show, when he was 8 years old

Singing In The Rain (qualifying round)

ÐÑÑений ФедоÑов. ÐедниковÑй пеÑиод. ÐеÑи. (08.04.2018)

Участник отборочного тура – Арсений Федотов, 8 лет.Лучшие фильмы и сериалы Первого канала смотрите на сайте kino.1tv.ruУчастники (01.04.2018) https://www.you...

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Once Upon a Time in America (22.04.2018)

ÐÑÑений ФедоÑов - «ÐÐ´Ð½Ð°Ð¶Ð´Ñ Ð² ÐмеÑике». ÐедниковÑй пеÑиод. ÐеÑи. (22.04.2018)

Второй день первого соревновательного этапа. Тема – "Музыка кино". Спортсмен из команды Ильи Авербуха представляет номер на музыку из фильма "Однажды в Амери...

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We Are Beaten, But We Fly (29.04.2018)

ÐÑÑений ФедоÑов - «ÐÐ°Ñ Ð±ÑÑÑ, Ð¼Ñ Ð»ÐµÑаем». ÐедниковÑй пеÑиод. ÐеÑи. (29.04.2018)

Второй соревновательный этап. Тема – "Хиты XXI века". Спортсмен из команды Ильи Авербуха выступает под песню в исполнении победителя третьего сезона шоу "Гол...

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Figaro (13.05.2018)

ÐÑÑений ФедоÑов - «УвеÑÑÑÑа» («СевилÑÑкий ÑиÑÑлÑник»). ÐедниковÑй пеÑиод. ÐеÑи.(13.05.2018)

Финал. Короткая программа. Тема — "Классическая музыка". Спортсмен из команды Ильи Авербуха выступает под музыку Джоаккино Россини.Лучшие фильмы и сериалы Пе...

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A Million Dreams (20.05.2018)

ÐÑÑений ФедоÑов - «A Million Dreams». ÐедниковÑй пеÑиод. ÐеÑи. (20.05.2018)

Финал. Произвольная программа. Музыка — "Свободная тема". Спортсмен из команды Ильи Авербуха выступает под песню из фильма "Величайший шоумен".Лучшие фильмы ...

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Trouble, Tutti Frutti (27.05.2018)

ÐÑÑений ФедоÑов - «Trouble», «Tutti Frutti». ÐедниковÑй пеÑиод. ÐеÑи. (27.05.2018)

Показательные выступления. Спортсмен из команды Ильи Авербуха выступает под песни Элвиса Пресли вместе с олимпийским чемпионом Алексеем Ягудиным.Полный выпус...

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[rfisher]

I love Tuk. Absolutly stunning 3A than doubles the combo and ends up in 2nd after a perfect skate by Petrosyn. Valieva fell on her 3A. Liza and Mishin laughing in the KnC. But, she got a lot of points for the 3A which made up the difference in the combo and a lv 2 spin.

Russian pairs.

 

[TAHbKA]

The fakeGPF K&C
Sokolovskaya: please don't grow anymore
Samodelkina: ok

 

[rfisher]

Akateva's 3As are better than pretty much all the men and I don't mean just the Russians. They are huge and make Tuk's look like she just hops up in the air. .

 

[TAHbKA]

Valieva still lands her 4T. Wow

 

[rfisher]

That was a strong skate by Petrosyn under pressure. Good for her.

The judges love Tuk and really try, but she's so slow compared to the rest of the Russian top women.

 

[angi]

Valieva still lands her 4T. Wow

Went and watched her FS after watching a clip of her 4T on Twitter and I agree her 4Ts are better than ever. I will say though that the cracks are showing more and more, she struggled with 3 jumping passes, had stamina issues in the second half, and her spins are regressing. As tragic as it is, the expiration date they have as Eteri skaters never fails.

 

[rfisher]

Tarasova had one of her not so good days, but M/G slayed Elvis. Their SBS jumps are about as perfect as a pair team can do. They and Boi/Koz put on a show. If you like pair skating, it doesn't get much better.

Boi/Koz placed second in the free (she two-footed the 2nd throw). Score comes up and he's pissed. Jumps to his feet ready to storm out of the KnC. Then the final score comes up and they win by by .7 points and he's sobbing. Boikova and Moskvina are just looking at him like get a grip, buddy. That was one of the best KnC reactions I've seen in a while.

 

[rfisher]

Vetlugin has Kolyada worthy posture. Pity he also makes the same mistakes. But he got Mishin to pet the stuffie.

Aliev: one of the most beautiful skates I've seen this season. Just exquisite. He was an original member of #TTW for a reason. Totally blew the SP and just killed his FS. Absolutely killed it.

 

[Vagabond]

Went and watched her FS after watching a clip of her 4T on Twitter and I agree her 4Ts are better than ever. I will say though that the cracks are showing more and more, she struggled with 3 jumping passes, had stamina issues in the second half, and her spins are regressing. As tragic as it is, the expiration date they have as Eteri skaters never fails.

Maybe this is why Tursynbaeva went to train with Orser: to push back that expiration date and land quadruple salchows when she was twenty.

 

[rfisher]

The only thing predictable about the Russian men is the sheer unpredictability. Quads and more quads and doubled jumps. A quad here and a double there. Everybody can land a 4-3 combo and follow it with a double sal. Aliev wins the FS and comes from 11th place in the SP to win silver. Gumennik with gold, Kondratiuk with bronze (and he got that because he won the SP and had points to spare).

Angelopol and the very nice girl he skates with (I only see him when they skate) win gold.

Petrosin gold, Valieva silver and Tuk bronze

Boi/Koz gold, Mish/Gal silver and Tar/Mor bronze.

 

[ChelleC]

I just saw podium pictures on Twitter, wow Kamila Valieva looks so grown up with her hair down.

 

[Bigbird]

The only thing predictable about the Russian men is the sheer unpredictability. Quads and more quads and doubled jumps. A quad here and a double there. Everybody can land a 4-3 combo and follow it with a double sal. Aliev wins the FS and comes from 11th place in the SP to win silver. Gumennik with gold, Kondratiuk with bronze (and he got that because he won the SP and had points to spare).

Angelopol and the very nice girl he skates with (I only see him when they skate) win gold.

Petrosin gold, Valieva silver and Tuk bronze

Boi/Koz gold, Mish/Gal silver and Tar/Mor bronze.

Queen Moskvina in her element. The current crop of junior ice dancers medalists easily eclipse this bunch of senior dancers. It's like they skate by numbers. Drozd is a shadow of himself. S/D remind me somewhat of C/B when they first started. I hope the junior russians are more impressive.

 

[caseyedwards]

I would love to see how these senior Russian dance teams would do in the real world! Because I am agog at them but that’s not a positive thing

 

[Ananas Astra]

I would love to see how these senior Russian dance teams would do in the real world! Because I am agog at them but that’s not a positive thing

I think K/A would do quite well.

 

[zoe111]

Went and watched her FS after watching a clip of her 4T on Twitter and I agree her 4Ts are better than ever. I will say though that the cracks are showing more and more, she struggled with 3 jumping passes, had stamina issues in the second half, and her spins are regressing. As tragic as it is, the expiration date they have as Eteri skaters never fails.

i would agree with this. the 4 toes were amazing, everything else - not very good surprisingly. She just looked labored and everything seemed to be a fight. i would not have given her the marks she pulled for that skate

 

[Bigbird]

i would agree with this. the 4 toes were amazing, everything else - not very good surprisingly. She just looked labored and everything seemed to be a fight. i would not have given her the marks she pulled for that skate

They must be hazing Akatieva at ET's request.

 

[Evgeniafan]

They must be hazing Akatieva at ET's request.

Why though? Akatieva is her student.

 

[rfisher]

Why though? Akatieva is her student.

And Petrosyn as well. They didn't hold back with her scores. Tutberidze clearly doesn't play that game with her students even though some of them and fans have wanted her to do so: Medvedeva and Trusova come to mind. Akatieva's 3As are really good, but some of her other skills are still in development. Her skating skills and PCS are no where near Valieva's which is why Tuk snagged the bronze over her. Petrosyn has the quad arsenal as well as a 3A which was enough between the SP and FS to give her the win. She skated really well this weekend (best she skated the entire series as it were).

 

[hanca]

They must be hazing Akatieva at ET's request.

It has always been like this. If they have one skater who has been around for a long time and another one who is promising and maybe slightly better than the long established skater, they will always hold the established skater up until the newer skater is significantly better. At the beginning of Stolbova/Klimov’s senior career, I felt that at times they were held down and some ‘more experienced/more deserving’ pairs were held up. Towards the end of their career it was the other way round - Stolbova/Klimov were held up and some newcoming seniors were pushed down. The same with Tarasova/Morozov- now they are at the stage when Boikova/Kozlovski and Mishina/Galliamov can actually beat them, but there were times when T/M were getting the marks dor past accomplishments, and at the same time there were also times when they placed lower than they should have.

Tuktamysheva and Zagitova are currently the skaters who benefit from their age and past accomplishments, and newcomers to seniors are pushed down, but if Akatieva sticks around for a few years, she will be the one who will benefit and someone else will be pushed down. This usually happens mostly at domestic competitions.

 

[Bigbird]

It has always been like this. If they have one skater who has been around for a long time and another one who is promising and maybe slightly better than the long established skater, they will always hold the established skater up until the newer skater is significantly better. At the beginning of Stolbova/Klimov’s senior career, I felt that at times they were held down and some ‘more experienced/more deserving’ pairs were held up. Towards the end of their career it was the other way round - Stolbova/Klimov were held up and some newcoming seniors were pushed down. The same with Tarasova/Morozov- now they are at the stage when Boikova/Kozlovski and Mishina/Galliamov can actually beat them, but there were times when T/M were getting the marks dor past accomplishments, and at the same time there were also times when they placed lower than they should have.

Tuktamysheva and Zagitova are currently the skaters who benefit from their age and past accomplishments, and newcomers to seniors are pushed down, but if Akatieva sticks around for a few years, she will be the one who will benefit and someone else will be pushed down. This usually happens mostly at domestic competitions.

Yup. That's about it. But I found Valieva sluggish and not particularly impressive. It looked like work. Midway through she ran out of gas and the jumps lost air. Meh...

 

[hanca]

Yup. That's about it. But I found Valieva sluggish and not particularly impressive. It looked like work. Midway through she ran out of gas and the jumps lost air. Meh...

I am not surprised - until last year she would be on very strict regime, keeping in top condition because of olympics and one cannot last living like that forever. There is a reason why Scherbakova and Trusova don’t compete. After the previous olympics it was the same for Zagitova and Medvedeva, and before that for Sotnikova and Lipnitskaya. There is a reason why many skaters who aimed at the top spots at Olympics take one season off. Those who don’t take off sort of push through but struggle.

 

[TAHbKA]

Trankov's interview with Dudakov:
He started sktaing in 1975, his parents brought him to the rink. It was a fashion to figure skate back then. In 1976 Marina Kudriavtseva was creating a group and he joined. He was an mediocre senior skater, buy won the USSR junior championship, participated the 1986 JW competition. Looking back he lacked the discipline. Retired in 1991, it was a hard time, he had no chance to make it to the team for the Worlds/Euros. He was competing with Urmanov, Tataurov, Gromov. They all coach now. Dudakov was 21y.o., he joined a show, worked in the UK for 2 years, Germany for 3 years. After he worked a season in the UK he bought a car in Germany, they flew to Germany to pick up their cars and started driving to Moscow. He kinda knew how to drive, but not really. That was his first foreign car in Russia.
He later worked on a cruise ship. They created a show for 2 weeks and then worked for half a year. It was a Carribians, so he enjoyed the views. Dudakov is afraid of flying on the planes, but he overcame it this year.
While working on the ship he was too homesick, so he went back to Moscow and joined the Khrustalny rink.
Before the shows he tried to open a business and was trying to sell snacks. That didn't work.
He came to Khrustalny in 2002, got the group of the 4-5y.o. kids and started working. The salary cut was great, but he was 31y.o, by then and didn't want to skate with the 18-19y.o. guys - that just didn't look good anymore.
The little kids groups - it was interesting because it were his first steps. The kids progressed - from nothing to basic steps, to crossovers, to 3turns etc. There were several groups on the same ice so he could compare his work with the other coaches'. Dudakov thinks the little kids learn from viewing, hence the coach who works with them has to be able to show.
The best time to start figure skating is at the age of 4, though there are kids who are good enough at the age of 3.
How do they overcome the fear of a quad? It's a process, we see whether the athlete has the spinning speed, the height of the jump, that axis in the air is correct. The first times are nerves wrecking.
In 2011 Tutberidze called and said she needed a 2nd coach and Dudakov agreed. He never asked her why him. He knew it was a huge responsibility, at that point she was coaching Shelepen, Lipnitskaya. A week later they spoke again and Dudakov joined the group.
Not every skater can land a triple jump, some will stop on the doubles and will not be able to move on. Some lack the physical strengh, some are mentally not tough enough and can't overstep the fear.
Dudakov was never wrong about a kid - if he said the kid will not be able to land a quad they didn't land a quad with the other coaches either. He can tell whether the kid is talented enough to try, but not much more - there is a chance for an injury.
Sometimes the skaters ask to try a quad and he has to be able to explain why not now - why they have first to work on the tripple jump.
The future of figure skating - where do we head to? Malinin who blew up everyone's mind with the 4A.
The skaters who he coaches - who is closer? All of them.
When there are 3 girls aiming for the same gold medal? It's heartbreaking. Each had her strong sides. Scherbakova can do the best at the right time and the right place. She has a characters - she always does the best she can at that point. Trusova - no compromises and she always attacks and attemts her maximum at that point. When you talk to her: Sasha, let's do the content that is the best for you today and the best of all that can be done, let's not allow the underotation. Valieva- was in the best possible shape, but it was what it was at the Olympics. They are all our kids, it's like a family. You always wish your kids, and I treat them like my kids and want them to succeed in everything. They are all our athletes and thinking we like one better than another is a speculation only.
Tutberdize/Dudakov/Gleikhengauz are always in touch, no matter where they are, sometimes even right after the warm up, sometimes they decide on the content if something goes wrong. All the decisions are made together.
Tutberidze always listens to everyone and makes a decision. The responsibility is hers. It's not easier for Dudakov, he just does his job, but does not decline the responsibility.
For Trankov it was much easier that someone else takes responsibility and makes the decision.
Dudakov is not jealous at all that Tutberidze is the most popular. They are a team.
Trankov tells how Tutberidze had a conversation with him that they are open, they are not making decision behind anyone's backs. Dudakov agrees.
Working for so many years with the team - there is no secret, we just trust each other 100% and not only on the rink. We can disagree, later Dudakov would be sorry that he did, but on the other hand it brings sometimes new ideas and new points of view.
During the programme Dudakov skates with the skater every step and every crossover, he doesn't know how does he keep the pocker face. He needs time to analyze the skate well, except for the major mistakes like the falls and later he can talk to the athlete on the practice.
After the competition in a different time zone Trankov would go home to rest a day and Dudakov would go back to the rink from the airport because there are kids who are waiting and the other coaches are working.
The goals for the future: just to work and hope that everyone will do the best. He would like to coach a skater such as Malinin, but you have to work to raise such a kid.
Difference between working with the boys and the girls: the girls are much more disciplined. The girls best time is 12-16, for the boys it's much later and it's hard to stick around for so long seeing how the girls are doing well.
His hobbies: history, he is now reading and learning it more. Computer games