Russian Figure Skater tests positive for drugs - delays ceremony for team medals

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I would be surprised if there is a decision issued before the deadline for Euros entries has passed.
It`s not an upside but one outcome of CAS taking for ever is that Russia likely will be out of ISU events for the entire 2023/24 season. I think the ISU meets in October and with no action/decision they will leave things as they are. Russia out as long as possible will keep state-sponsored doping out of skating. Athletes can go to competitons more confident the results will be based on merit.
 
Yeah, Brennan isn't afraid to dig herself down in the trenches and get in the middle of the action.

As for Russia, isn't the thing fans love about Russian interviews is how Russian subjects just "speak their mind"? This "candor" has often included insinuations and outright accusations against others (mainly rivals). Now that they're on the receiving end of that...

In a hypothetical world where these folks actually go through with filing some sort of suit against Vincent, and they somehow can show they having standing to bring suit, it'll open those plaintiffs and relevant parties to the discovery process to prove what he said wasn't based on lies or a reckless disregard of the truth, and those with an vested interested in exposing more things may help him with getting a particularly aggressive and experienced attorney to really go for the jugular. Vincent can also bring a countersuit and talk about how they worked to tarnish his reputation in Russia.
 
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She was meant for this. Dogged, snoopy, doesn’t care about offending anyone.
I mean... What I recall from her during the Olympics was her dogging Davis/Smolkin about not speaking English. Not someone I'd want around any athlete tbh, yes that includes Valieva. The USA should have considered sending someone else. I doubt nobody else would have agreed, Brennan is more just the unfortunately omnipresent voice within US figure skating.
 
It`s not an upside but one outcome of CAS taking for ever is that Russia likely will be out of ISU events for the entire 2023/24 season. I think the ISU meets in October and with no action/decision they will leave things as they are. Russia out as long as possible will keep state-sponsored doping out of skating. Athletes can go to competitons more confident the results will be based on merit.
ISU Council usually meets every 2-3 months - they meet again in October and usually they have a meeting in December too. They can also schedule an emergency meeting to vote to lift the ban if they want - that's how the original ban was implemented, by an emergency meeting in early March 2022. I am not holding my breath that we won't see Russia allowed back by Jr Worlds/Worlds 2024, but I certainly don't think they'll be at Euros.
 
USA Today is paying her tab for this Lausanne trip, not USFS or USOPC or USADA.
OK, USA TODAY should have considered someone else.

I meant USA, the country, not some organization, and I wouldn't expect any of the three organizations you mentioned to be fielding a journalist's tab. As in, "the Americans should have sent a better journalist here, instead of somebody who dogged a deaf girl about not speaking English in relation to this very Valieva case".
 
OK, USA TODAY should have considered someone else.

I meant USA, the country, not some organization, and I wouldn't expect any of the three organizations you mentioned to be fielding a journalist's tab. As in, "the Americans should have sent a better journalist here, instead of somebody who dogged a deaf girl about not speaking English".
Do we even really know what level of hearing loss Diana Davis has? Clearly she hears well enough to be an ice dancer, and she's stated publicly in the Russian press, that her hearing loss has been played up by others but it isn't a significant challenge.
 
OK, USA TODAY should have considered someone else.

I meant USA, the country, not some organization, and I wouldn't expect any of the three organizations you mentioned to be fielding a journalist's tab. As in, "the Americans should have sent a better journalist here, instead of somebody who dogged a deaf girl about not speaking English in relation to this very Valieva case".
What do you mean "USA, the country" should have sent a better journalist? First, we don't know if Brennan is the only person any kind of American-based organization sent, and second, Brennan has an individual right to go and doesn't need anybody to send her. Regarding sending reporters and journalists on site to cover stories, there's no monolith "America" that just sends people in any official capacity in the country's name.

It's clear that she has a personal interest and a professional one as she's been the most consistent currently working journalist to cover figure skating for nearly three decades now. The reason why it's known that she's going is because of her history covering the sport, and that she has done years-long work to convince USA Today that this was a story that they want covered for their publication and it's worth their penny to send her directly to the CAS hearing.
 
Do we even really know what level of hearing loss Diana Davis has? Clearly she hears well enough to be an ice dancer, and she's stated publicly in the Russian press, that her hearing loss has been played up by others but it isn't a significant challenge.
Does it make what Brennan did any better?

Not that I believe she'll be allowed anywhere close to the hearing, but her behaviour can definitely be played up by Russian media as well, in order to play the victim, given her presence here.
 
Does it make what Brennan did any better?

Not that I believe she'll be allowed anywhere close to the hearing, but her behaviour can definitely be played up by Russian media as well, in order to play the victim, given her presence here.
Diana is a big girl and was, in Beijing, a legal adult. She was fair game just like any other Russian skater in Beijing, but especially so because of who her mother is. It's hardly the fault of anyone in the media for asking her what she knows of her mother's training camp and if she didn't want to be asked those questions, then maybe she should have chosen a different career path.
 
Does it make what Brennan did any better?

Not that I believe she'll be allowed anywhere close to the hearing, but her behaviour can definitely be played up by Russian media as well, in order to play the victim, given her presence here.
They'd play the victim in any case, so I don't see that her presence makes much difference in that regard.
 
Brennan annoys me at times for a variety of different reasons, and I do think she was a little too hyper in her interviewing of Diana and Gleb. This is just going to go in circles once again, but if you listen to the actual recording of said interview, Gleb kept trying to explain something regarding Diana, and she cut him off at least two times to press on.

However, who cares if she's annoying sometimes when she's the one high-level person that has shown enough consistent interest in this case? She's obviously invested a lot into figure skating, even being banned from credentialing for a small period in the 90's. She's been through the boom and then the relative dark years of US skating; she's stuck with it and I don't see why anyone else should go to cover something they likely haven't been following.
 
She was fair game just like any other Russian skater in Beijing, but especially so because of who her mother is.
So what's the difference between Russian media and someone like Brennan then?
It's hardly the fault of anyone in the media for asking her what she knows of her mother's training camp and if she didn't want to be asked those questions, then maybe she should have chosen a different career path.
She wasn't just "asked". There was an entire story where Brennan was being an asshole to her.
 
Brennan annoys me at times for a variety of different reasons, and I do think she was a little too hyper in her interviewing of Diana and Gleb. This is just going to go in circles once again, but if you listen to the actual recording of said interview, Gleb kept trying to explain something regarding Diana, and she cut him off at least two times to press on.
I think, as a journalist, Brennan wanted Diana to answer questions that was directed to her, and not go through someone acting as her representative who could be seen as trying to feed her some “safe” responses with Diana being shielded. But her demeanor was aggressive and she made a pretty callous remark about Diana being an “American” and claiming not being able to speak English, but one could argue it was Brennan not buying that and questioning Diana’s truthfulness. At the same time, you have to wonder how much Diana knows about any of the things Brennan was questioning her about as she’s the daughter of Eteri, not her business or coaching partner, so the increasing aggression and antagonizing of Diana may not have been the wisest of journalistic moves, but Brennan probably felt she had to be that way because she wasn’t going any substabtive answer any other way.
However, who cares if she's annoying sometimes when she's the one high-level person that has shown enough consistent interest in this case? She's obviously invested a lot into figure skating, even being banned from credentialing for a small period in the 90's. She's been through the boom and then the relative dark years of US skating; she's stuck with it and I don't see why anyone else should go to cover something they likely haven't been following.
This right here.
 
So what's the difference between Russian media and someone like Brennan then?
Maybe I missed it, but I don’t think anybody here suggested any Russian journalists shouldn’t be covering the story for their own news outlets. There’s also the question of whether there’s any separation between some Russian news outlets and the government that would make that distinct from Brennan, an independent journalist working for an independent publication who doesn’t represent the state in any official capacity.
 
I mean... What I recall from her during the Olympics was her dogging Davis/Smolkin about not speaking English. Not someone I'd want around any athlete tbh, yes that includes Valieva. The USA should have considered sending someone else. I doubt nobody else would have agreed, Brennan is more just the unfortunately omnipresent voice within US figure skating.
The “USA” doesn’t send anyone, private news organisations do. And her newspaper sent her to cover it. There’s nothing official about it. As everyone said.

The difference between her and Russian reporters is that she doesn’t have to care if she pisses off USFS or President Biden for that matter. Unlike the Russian chained lapdogs, which is all that is left of their press corps.
 
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The “USA” doesn’t send anyone
I'm curious.

What is the difference between this and saying "The Americans should have sent someone different" or "America should have sent someone different"?

Would the first then imply that I believe there was a vote among the Americans and a majority decided to send Brennan there?

Are people really believing here that someone can be so unfamiliar with the entire process having lived in this country before - or what?

Anyway, whatever. Brennan won't get to go to the hearing, so good for her to bag a few days in what I hope is a good Swiss hotel.
 
I'm curious.

What is the difference between this and saying "The Americans should have sent someone different" or "America should have sent someone different"?

Would the first then imply that I believe there was a vote among the Americans and a majority decided to send Brennan there?

Are people really believing here that someone can be so unfamiliar with the entire process having lived in this country before - or what?

Anyway, whatever. Brennan won't get to go to the hearing, so good for her to bag a few days in what I hope is a good Swiss hotel.
Because she wasn’t sent by the Americans but by one news organisation that’s been paying her to cover skating for 30 years. We don’t have any official press unless you count Voice of America which doesn’t broadcast domestically. Even our very-partially-funded public TV and radio network are completely independent of the government.
 
I'm curious.

What is the difference between this and saying "The Americans should have sent someone different" or "America should have sent someone different"?

Would the first then imply that I believe there was a vote among the Americans and a majority decided to send Brennan there?
It is not only "implying" but taking the language of the posts, it's stating that outright. Like as if the American population or some group of people/an entity who has authority to have official capacity to represent the interests of Americans as a whole got together and decided to send somebody to represent official state interests. The second statement also states this.
Are people really believing here that someone can be so unfamiliar with the entire process having lived in this country before - or what?
Just speaking for myself, though I'm sure others are in my position, I don't really know you that well to say what your knowledge is or what your living experiences have been.
 
Hilarious. Usually when someone says something they don't like, they go after their medal credentials and say their a nobody. Since they can't with Vincent now their talking about lawsuits.:rolleyes: Where was that same energy when Russians accused Simone Biles of being on PED?? Such hypocrites which is why noone believes them or takes them seriously.
If you read the comments of the russians, Simone drinks magic pills and turns into the main character of Marvel comics. How can normal and honest russian girls compete with her?
And the evil West actually cruelly set Kamila up.
 
It's rather a wonder they never went after Nathan or Papadakis/Cizeron the way they do Simone.
 
If you read the comments of the russians, Simone drinks magic pills and turns into the main character of Marvel comics. How can normal and honest russian girls compete with her?
And the evil West actually cruelly set Kamila up.
To be fair, it was revealed (I believe a security breach) that Biles has (had) a TUE for an ADD drug which helps her focus. Not saying this is illegal but there is a bit of messiness in the pond, as it were.
 
To be fair, it was revealed (I believe a security breach) that Biles has (had) a TUE for an ADD drug which helps her focus. Not saying this is illegal but there is a bit of messiness in the pond, as it were.
The pills help a person with ADHD focus. This is the same as giving a person with a high fever an antipyretic. The temperature simply returns to normal. And, of course, such pills do not make anyone superhuman.
 
The pills help a person with ADHD focus. This is the same as giving a person with a high fever an antipyretic. The temperature simply returns to normal. And, of course, such pills do not make anyone superhuman.
Sure, but the Russians whine about it because the ADHD drugs are eligible for TUEs while their drugs are always singled out for banning by WADA. Same with asthma drugs. It's all a big witch hunt aimed against the poor, maligned Russians by the evil West.
 
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