Royalty Thread#12 Tiaras, Palaces & Gilded Cages

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Anne and Edward are full time working royals. Harry and Meghan are not.

I said Anne's & Edward's kids, not Anne & Edward.

Princess Anne's children and grandchildren do not have titles to use. Prince Edward's children do have titles and they are used.

Edward's kids don't have royal titles, they have the traditional titles that children of an Earl have.

I don't have a problem generally if someone who gets a lot of traffic has his/her own thread. It was the person making the new thread that jumped out at me. Maybe her motive wasn't petty, idk. Maybe my nerves are on edge right now. Mea culpa.
 
Whoa. Cabin fever is starting to get to everyone.

Unfortunately not; however, perhaps we can "contain" it, somewhat!

:rofl: Cabin fever and sniping has happened in multiple threads on FSU over multiple years. I commend those who have for the most part been able to navigate their way to finding some fairly benign threads in which to engage and share opinions, ideas and perceptions within a fairly safe harbor. The current health crisis and necessary self-isolating shouldn't be blamed for ongoing poor attitudes, snarking, disagreements, and the often intentional misreading of others' posts in this or other threads. And that's the case, even if the current self-restrictions may be causing or contributing to disgruntled feelings and short tempers.

I appreciate the positive welcoming of a dedicated M&H thread, but I too suspect that the intention behind it, whether consciously intended or not, is more about setting the Sussexes aside dismissively and patronizingly. If such a thread can be beneficial, that would be great. At this point, I'm doubtful.
Even the title appropriates in a suspect way Harry's low-key request to be addressed informally as 'Harry.' He made that request because he prefers dealing with people on a personable, respectful level where everyone matters. Neither Harry nor Meghan have ever stood on much ceremony when it comes to titles and royal protocol. At the same time, I'm sure they both dislike being disrespected and worse at the hands of the tabloid media.

M&H said they are stepping down from senior royal duties, and they are no longer using HRH titles, but they are both still members of the British royal family and Harry is still a blood prince. He just doesn't care to use his royal status in any self-aggrandizing way. He and Meghan both wish to use their prominence in the world as a substantive platform for helping others and for making a meaningful difference via supporting and promoting charitable projects and endeavors that focus on the good things which are possible when people join together with positive, selfless intentions.
 
Do you think the sniping will stop? And I still say the motive behind that thread was petty. Other family members don't use their title & no one makes a thread to talk about them.

There are barely any posts about the other family members and there aren't essay-like replies by someone who worships the ground they walk on to most every post about them either. :slinkaway (I believe Zemgirl already suggested making separate threads for British royals and other royals due to the many, many posts about Meghan and Harry a while ago).
 
^^ :lol: In that case, I suppose I need my own separate website, and not just to post about the Sussexes! :rofl:

I don't worship the ground the Sussexes walk on, but you can continue to perceive my admiration for them and my alarm over the way they've been treated, as you please and as you will.

As a matter of fact, I don't come into this thread everyday for a reason. :p

As another matter of fact, others who are not me, have titled whole royalty threads after Archie, and after the Sussexit crisis. No, really! :COP:

Interestingly, a clever observer somewhere else on the Internet posted the below ending scene from a famous film, citing its similarity to what Harry has experienced and endured at the hands of the royal institution. Another indication that there's way more people than me who recognize what's been going on in that particular dysfunctional family:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_zYn-HHcyA&app=desktop
 
I don't have a problem generally if someone who gets a lot of traffic has his/her own thread. It was the person making the new thread that jumped out at me. Maybe her motive wasn't petty, idk. Maybe my nerves are on edge right now. Mea culpa.

The motive may or may not have been petty, and my first thought was equal to yours - that it was probably petty. But I thought about it some more, and that it might be nice to have a thread just about Harry and Meghan that would hopefully have less slagging in it than this one has had. Hope lives eternal, and all that, lol.
 
I believe Zemgirl already suggested making separate threads for British royals and other royals due to the many, many posts about Meghan and Harry a while ago

To refresh memories: Before Harry met, courted and married Meghan, most FSU royalty threads were lightly frequented by a small group of royal followers. The posts were mostly benign, trivial, admiring, adoring and sometimes engaging but mostly with sweet sentiments and polite conversation except for the unsurprising disagreements on occasional topics and rehashes regarding Diana and/ or Margaret.

Mostly, those former royalty threads were always falling off the first page, and required searching for them more than a few pages back whenever a general European royal update was made by Zemgirl or when some new photos, overseas tours, or some mildly interesting or somewhat scandalous story about the British royals surfaced in the U.S. celebrity mags and broadcast media.

Awhile back, not many Americans were even following the British tabloids and mainstream media to keep tabs on every aspect of everything the Cambridges and third wheel, yet popular Harry were doing, much less what PC and Cam were up to, aside from when they finally married in 2005. Certainly, the Queen's 2012 Jubilee, the 2011 Cambridge royal wedding, and perhaps Trooping the Colour, Xmas at Sandringham, and births of the first Cambridge kids garnered a bit more interest in the royalty threads and thus a bit more tenure on the first page during those periods.

Since M&H's engagement and wedding, subsequent royalty threads have rarely if ever fallen off the first page. M&H simply existing has had the RR, the British media, the global media, despicable trolls and Sussex supporters all in a tizzy, while neutral and not-so neutral observers have either joined the fray or stood transfixed on the sidelines. Of course, there are always those people who have no interest in anything to do with royalty, and thus might facetiously or innocently ask, with eyes glazed over: "Harry & Meghan who?"


Sadly, there's still the relentless money-hungry RR, the haters and trolls, some of whom most recently purchased
'Archewell' domain names in order to try and viciously attack Meghan. Some who have created so many 'Archewell' accounts on Instagram and Twitter may be Sussex fans with nothing better to do. IMO, it's rather mind-boggling for them to steal the 'Archewell' name. I mean FGS, why? This is a perfect example of the scariness of the thirst that surrounds this couple, @puglover. Yes, as we know, this is happening through no fault of their own! M&H are self-isolating at home, minding their own business, and the crap attacks haven't lessened yet. :drama:
The stupidity of buying a domain name and redirecting to Golddigger and Gaslighter is rather beyond comprehension.


Take a look at the above photo of Meghan in South Africa. That's not the face, heart, or spirit of a golddigger or a gaslighter. And the relationship between Harry and Meghan is not about money, it's about L O V E.
 
There have been rumors for months that H&M were gong to make a move to California.

I suppose Harry will start his project with Oprah to keep busy while Meghan mulls over
her options. New beginnings.

Trump has told H & M that they must pay for their own sejcurity while in the U.S. It is the only time I have agreed with Trump about anything.

It would not surprise me at all if L.A., becomes their permanent home or that this was their intention from the get-go.
 
@aftershocks, I take issue with one thing you said. After W&K married & esp after they had George, there was a lot of interest in them & this thread had updates every day. And when they started doing things with Harry as the Big Three it seemed that everything the triumvirate did was news. Yes, maybe coverage has tripled with H&M in the picture but W&K also brought a lot of interest. After George this thread probably never fell off the front page.
 
After George this thread probably never fell off the front page.

I said in my post that the 2011 W&K wedding and later their kids' births generated first page interest, of course. And when W&K toured the U.S. and Australia, for sure this thread was on the first page often. But the interest tapered off. Even after George's and Charlotte's births, let's be honest there were periods where the royalty thread fell off the first page. I remember because I had to look for the thread myself to post royalty news of interest. It would drop to 2nd and 3rd pages at least.

It really doesn't matter, but I noted this especially once it was revealed H&M were dating. I came to post about it and there was very little interest or discussion about who Harry was dating, for whatever reason. So even then the royalty thread was not on the first page. I found it surprising that few people were interested in discussing H&M's romance and courtship, especially since he was dating an American (granted they were under-the-radar for the most part). Interest began to heat up here only around the time of Invictus in September 2017 and then more-so after the engagement announcement in November 2017. Interest here hit the roof during and after the royal wedding in May 2018, and the royalty thread has remained on the first page ever since.


In other news, another American who married into British aristocracy, Julie Montagu, will debut a show in the U.S. next month on the Smithsonian channel. She's appeared in a number of documentaries about M&H. Although she's probably never met them, she was asked to provide insight on what it's like as an American marrying a British aristocrat, the culture shock, etc. She's always had interesting things to say, and she's very personable. So I guess she capitalized on the interest in her and in the topic, and she ended up with a gig of her own:

 
To refresh memories: Before Harry met, courted and married Meghan, most FSU royalty threads were lightly frequented by a small group of royal followers. The posts were mostly benign, trivial, admiring, adoring and sometimes engaging but mostly with sweet sentiments and polite conversation except for the unsurprising disagreements on occasional topics and rehashes regarding Diana and/ or Margaret.

Yes, and?
 
@aftershocks, your memory is very different from mine. As for this thread falling off to the 2nd (maybe) or 3rd (didn't happen) page, that's silly. This is a case of tearing down one thing to build up another. Harry has been my favorite royal for a long time & his love story is riveting but the rest of the royals aren't chopped liver as they say. No matter how much you insist to the contrary W&K have drawn daily interest since their wedding if not before.

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Ok while we're on lockdown anyone know what kind of hose Kate wears? It certainly looks smoother and nicer than the ones I wear, that's for sure. (When I wear them -- I dislike them but if I want to wear a skirt in the winter or brisk fall/spring I basically have to.)
 
Ok while we're on lockdown anyone know what kind of hose Kate wears? It certainly looks smoother and nicer than the ones I wear, that's for sure. (When I wear them -- I dislike them but if I want to wear a skirt in the winter or brisk fall/spring I basically have to.)

I can’t remember the brand, but I think there was discussion about them over at whatkatewore.
 
@aftershocks, your memory is very different from mine. As for this thread falling off to the 2nd (maybe) or 3rd (didn't happen) page, that's silly. This is a case of tearing down one thing to build up another. Harry has been my favorite royal for a long time & his love story is riveting but the rest of the royals aren't chopped liver as they say. No matter how much you insist to the contrary W&K have drawn daily interest since their wedding if not before.

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I'm not tearing anything down, just stating what I personally remember. The royalty thread was in general a thread that was much more lightly frequented. Sure there were always a corp group who participated, but there are many more people who frequent the thread now, even many who just stop by but don't participate. Yes, there were periods in the past when there was more activity and tenure on the first page. But I remember having to check 2nd and 3rd pages to find the royalty thread.

Since M&H's royal wedding, I've never seen the thread roll off the first page. But conversely, like I said earlier, when it was first revealed that M&H were dating, I came here to discuss it and no one was interested at that point. :lol: It was a very slow build, but it ratcheted up something fierce especially after the May 2018 wedding.

There's nothing to tear down to build up, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. I'm simply stating what I experienced and remember. What I'm saying has to do with traffic in the royalty thread on this site. I am not referencing anything negative about other royals! Why you think so is fascinating! Some people have actually expressed how they'd like this thread to go back to those lovelier, quieter, happier times when tiaras, royal kids, casual talk and royal pomp and circumstance were the main order of the day. :D Plus, there was more room and leisure to talk about other European royals.

To be honest, the increased interest post the Sussex marriage is not just here though. Obviously, a huge amount of interest in the royal family was generated across the board on any number of platforms as a result of the engagement and wedding of M&H. Bottom line, anything about them sells and gets clicks. As a result, countless royal news podcasts, Youtube videos, books, royal merchandise, documentaries, and television specials have been created. As well, there has been an uptick in online sales of fashion brands and accessories worn by Meghan.

The same happened when Kate married William, but it's an even greater phenomenon now, as the Internet, social media and platforms for online vendors have grown. Of course increased interest in the royals is not unusual after a royal wedding. However, it is has become an even greater phenomenon now with the growth of social media, and because of who Meghan is. She brought a new, more diverse and younger audience to the royal family. The Sussexes have wide appeal and a worldwide following. That's not a knock on any other royals, but you can think so if you wish.

In my previous post, I was simply responding to you regarding your mention of the Cambridges in reference to my comments about the thread. My comments about the royalty thread traffic are not about the Cambridges. It's really not a competition in that respect. I don't see why you think it is. In general, the royalty thread used to be a bit more balanced in discussing more royal families besides just the British royal family.
 
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The essay on how they created the virus to disrupt H & M’s rollout of their post-royal plan to save the world from all that ails it should come first. It’s more timely after all.

This from the very same poster who said, "Kate has better genes than Meghan." No kidding. :drama:

I'm still waiting for @aftershocks expose on how W&K are running a sex trafficking ring out of the pizzeria in the basement of Kensington Palace.

You are so unoriginal canbelto. That's the same ridiculous, unbelievable MAGA crap Fox News and right wing Breitbart type trolls made up about Hillary and Bill Clinton. :rolleyes:
 
You are so unoriginal canbelto. That's the same ridiculous, unbelievable MAGA crap Fox News and right wing Breitbart type trolls made up about Hillary and Bill Clinton. :rolleyes:

I'm aware of that. I'm just saying that your conspiracy theories about W&K are about as rational as the "Bill and Hillary run a sex trafficking ring about of the pizzeria in their basement" QAnon theories.
 
I'm aware of that. I'm just saying that your conspiracy theories about W&K are about as rational as the "Bill and Hillary run a sex trafficking ring about of the pizzeria in their basement" QAnon theories.

And you're still unoriginal, not to mention irrational. :blah: You are the one making up conspiracy theories btw. Not everything sad, scandalous, shocking, alarming, disappointing, and/or controversial involves a conspiracy. :yawn:
 
And you're still unoriginal, not to mention irrational. :blah: You are the one making up conspiracy theories btw. Not everything sad, scandalous, shocking, alarming, disappointing, and/or controversial involves a conspiracy. :yawn:

You should tell yourself that. You seem to think the whole world is out to get H&M. If that's not a conspiracy theory I don't know what is. I agree they have been treated unfairly at times but you jump on anyone who posts a whisper of criticism of them. H&M have made some missteps just like every other human on the planet but you seem to want us to think they are perfect & that every other royal never had an original thought before & is jealous of them.

Maybe it's OCD but when I post at FSU I read over what I've written for typos & for context before I hit post reply. Sometimes I delete what I've written altogether. I'm suggesting that you try this & then ask yourself "do I sound like a obsessed fangirl?" I know it's hard to be objective when it comes to our favs but your OTT gushing derails every thread about them.
 
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