Prince Andrew

[MacMadame]

I always just assumed the royals were wealthy and did not need to worry about money but now I recall Fergie having trouble at one point...........but she was bailed out

They have plenty. Some of them just don't live within their very generous means.

 

[Winnipeg]

I guess people spend up to the max of their lifestyle so that when it decreases, it seems less than it really is relative to most other people. They have no perspective.

 

[Vagabond]

Epstein settlement ‘shielding’ Prince Andrew should be public, judge says

Lawyer says secret 2008 agreement between Virginia Giuffre and Jeffrey Epstein protects prince from lawsuit

www.theguardian.com

In a brief order issued on Tuesday, the US district judge Loretta Preska said that without any valid objection by Epstein’s estate, the document should be made public on or before 22 December as part of Andrew’s case.

I expect that the prince will appeal that order, so I don't count on publication any time soon.

 

[Winnipeg]

Seems wrong that the Prince should be protected if he broke the law.

 

[Winnipeg]

Will the guilty verdict of the Maxwell case affect the prince's case?

 

[MacMadame]

Will the guilty verdict of the Maxwell case affect the prince's case?

Apparently, he wasn't mentioned much in her trial. So I'm guessing not.

 

[Sylvia]

Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted. Now attention turns to Prince Andrew.

“Maxwell did not act alone. Others must be held accountable,” Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein’s most high-profile accusers, tweeted after the verdict.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[emason]

Apparently, he wasn't mentioned much in her trial. So I'm guessing not.

If she tries to bargain for a lesser sentence by offering up evidence to implicate him, it may.

 

[Judy]

If she tries to bargain for a lesser sentence by offering up evidence to implicate him, it may.

I don't think her sentence is negotiable though.

 

[emason]

Her layers will definitely appeal and try to plea bargain; that's always the next step.

 

[mella]

Her layers will definitely appeal and try to plea bargain; that's always the next step.

Don't plea bargains happen pre trial with an admission of something and offering up something else to get a reduced sentence? Can they happen retrospectively for someone who claims no wrongdoing? Wouldn't she risk perjuring herself?

 

[emason]

Don't plea bargains happen pre trial with an admission of something and offering up something else to get a reduced sentence? Can they happen retrospectively for someone who claims no wrongdoing? Wouldn't she risk perjuring herself?

She would have been in a stronger position if she had tried to plea bargain before she was convicted. However, after the fact, she may be able to strike a deal for a lesser sentence if she has info on Andrew that others want badly enough. Or her conviction could be overturned on appeal; her lawyers have already announced intention to appeal. The trial may be over but the legal saga is not.

 

[mella]

She would have been in a stronger position if she had tried to plea bargain before she was convicted. However, after the fact, she may be able to strike a deal for a lesser sentence if she has info on Andrew that others want badly enough. Or her conviction could be overturned on appeal; her lawyers have already announced intention to appeal. The trial may be over but the legal saga is not.

Ah thanks. Understood.

 

[taf2002]

I don't think her sentence is negotiable though.

I agree. Plea bargains happen for various reasons but not so often when the evidence is overwhelming and/or the crime is heinous. She might have been able to get a lesser sentence if she had offered up high profile people like Andrew before the trial. I believe the only way that could happen now is if she wins her appeal & I don't think that's likely.

 

[FiveRinger]

Prince Andrew Asked for Medical Documentation of His Inability to Sweat

Where are the receipts?

 

[Winnipeg]

OMG

 

[taf2002]

Prince Andrew Asked for Medical Documentation of His Inability to Sweat

Where are the receipts?

What an idiot!

 

[attyfan]

Andrew is getting a lot of bad press

The Sunday newspapers spell further trouble for Prince Andrew - Royal Central

In November 2019, the Duke of York stepped back as a working member of The Royal Family in the hope that such a move would keep him out of the spotlight. Yet more than two...

royalcentral.co.uk

 

[Vagabond]

Prince Andrew accuser Virginia Giuffre’s legal deal with Jeffrey Epstein released

Unsealing stems from Giuffre’s sexual abuse lawsuit against duke, filed in Manhattan federal court in August

www.theguardian.com

This might protect him from civil liability, but it won't stop a criminal investigation. And that he had to rely on the settlement agreement is a public relations fiasco for him.

The best thing he could do now would be to withdraw to his mother's estate in Scotland and stay there. He won't, of course.

 

[Coco]

I know it's two totally different sets of circumstances, but it is rather appalling how Harry was treated when compared to how Andrew is being treated by the Queen. Specifically with regards to military positions/patronages.

 

[Tesla]

And that he had to rely on the settlement agreement is a public relations fiasco for him.

I thought the same thing.

 

[Lemonade20]

Andrew and Harry should both have their patronages and titles taken away. I thought the whole Fergie toegate was bad, but they took it to a new level of low.

 

[Cachoo]

Andrew and Harry should both have their patronages and titles taken away. I thought the whole Fergie toegate was bad, but they took it to a new level of low.

Yes, I'm not wild about Fergie but for awhile Andrew came out smelling like a rose while she was dragged through the muck. Who knew how creepy Andrew was at the same time?

 

[FiveRinger]

Yes, I'm not wild about Fergie but for awhile Andrew came out smelling like a rose while she was dragged through the muck. Who knew how creepy Andrew was at the same time?

I haven't kept up a whole lot with any of this. I've been been reading over the last few days. The more I read, the more I really wonder why Fergie packed up her girls and left Andrew. I'm wondering what all she knew. Am I wrong to be suspicious?

 

[Coco]

My perception was they got divorced because Fergie couldn't behave up to a certain standard. But I believe they lived together even after the divorce.

 

[once_upon]

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[MacMadame]

My perception was they got divorced because Fergie couldn't behave up to a certain standard. But I believe they lived together even after the divorce.

Don't they live together right now?

 

[Lemonade20]

They do, they're friendly enough to live together but I don't trust either one of them at all.

 

[overedge]

they're friendly enough to live together

You mistyped "she's broke".

 

[Judy]

My perception was they got divorced because Fergie couldn't behave up to a certain standard. But I believe they lived together even after the divorce.

Andrew's naval career meant that they only spent 40 days a year together. I think that was a huge part of her seeking an affair with the other guy.