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I spoke of Wang/Wang of course!Was an explanation ever given of why Yu & Zhang aren't being sent? Or the Wangs if they weren't ready? the heck...
They are so being sokolova'd by their fed!
I spoke of Wang/Wang of course!Was an explanation ever given of why Yu & Zhang aren't being sent? Or the Wangs if they weren't ready? the heck...
Y/Z - not ready after her injuryWas an explanation ever given of why Yu & Zhang aren't being sent? Or the Wangs if they weren't ready? the heck...
^^^ Now that I think about it where are Korea and Japan? Did both teams decline? injury?
Only 3 countries competing and that barely qualifies for ISU points.
With one team missing!
No expert but I think the fact that they have been skating together for a long time, and have a very solid technical base for their pair elements allows them to do things that others of similar stature would struggle with.I have a serious pairs question re Sui/Han. I love this team. I cannot figure out how they make their skating work as they are close in height and I am so used to seeing large muscular men with petite partners. What's their secret?
I have a serious pairs question re Sui/Han. I love this team. I cannot figure out how they make their skating work as they are close in height and I am so used to seeing large muscular men with petite partners. What's their secret?
All of the above (what skatingguy and Mad for Skating said). Plus, and to amplify a bit, there's still a reasonable height difference for a pair (20 cm), since Wenjing is also small. They learned pairs together, starting when they were 12 &15 (at least according to their ISU bio), so have the same technique and neither has ever had another partner. Cong is REALLY strong, especially for a little guy. And obviously they're also both very talented. They won their first of 3 World Juniors in their first year competing internationally / third year skating pairs.I have a serious pairs question re Sui/Han. I love this team. I cannot figure out how they make their skating work as they are close in height and I am so used to seeing large muscular men with petite partners. What's their secret?
there's still a reasonable height difference for a pair (20 cm), since Wenjing is also small.
I have a serious pairs question re Sui/Han. I love this team. I cannot figure out how they make their skating work as they are close in height and I am so used to seeing large muscular men with petite partners. What's their secret?
I imagine Sui has tremendous core strength that allows her to hold herself well. I will say that as she's matured, their twist isn't as high as it used to be, but IMO they more than make up for it in the increasingly explosive power that they project on the ice.
Sui is very strong corewise. She is doing most of the work in the throws and her position in lifts is very stable.All of the above (what skatingguy and Mad for Skating said). Plus, and to amplify a bit, there's still a reasonable height difference for a pair (20 cm), since Wenjing is also small. They learned pairs together, starting when they were 12 &15 (at least according to their ISU bio), so have the same technique and neither has ever had another partner. Cong is REALLY strong, especially for a little guy. And obviously they're also both very talented. They won their first of 3 World Juniors in their first year competing internationally / third year skating pairs.
When I've seen them in person they seem in proportion as a pair.
That's not Chinese throw technique. Chinese throw technique is for the man to chuck the lady as hard, high, and far as possible and let them figure it out on the way down. If Sui was doing most of the work in the throws she would be able to land that side-by-side triple salchow.Sui is very strong corewise. She is doing most of the work in the throws and her position in lifts is very stable.
Sui is great for many reasons but she's not doing "most of the work" on throws. Like skatingguy said about the chinese technique. She awesome for being able to hold on to the throw landings, and while an elite pairs skater like her does have good core strength, she's not a good jumper on her own.Sui is very strong corewise. She is doing most of the work in the throws and her position in lifts is very stable.
That's not Chinese throw technique. Chinese throw technique is for the man to chuck the lady as hard, high, and far as possible and let them figure it out on the way down. If Sui was doing most of the work in the throws she would be able to land that side-by-side triple salchow.
Well Cong leaves the ice when he throws her so I would call that chucking.That’s Hao Zhang technique. Han doesn’t seem to “chuck” Sui around. In fact I think Savchenko/Massot, James/Cipres, and Ryom/Kim (and probably others I can’t think of) have more of a “chuck the lady” technique. It works for some couples and not for others. Often the lady ends up two-footing the jump because there’s too much force to control, but it can work.
Agreed.Han doesn’t seem to “chuck” Sui around.
Han has resisted the "Chinese Method" of doing throws like Hao Zhang. They seem to go their own way a little bit and it seems to be tolerated maybe due to their results.That’s Hao Zhang technique. Han doesn’t seem to “chuck” Sui around. In fact I think Savchenko/Massot, James/Cipres, and Ryom/Kim (and probably others I can’t think of) have more of a “chuck the lady” technique. It works for some couples and not for others. Often the lady ends up two-footing the jump because there’s too much force to control, but it can work.
Duhamel/Radford had a technique that was long but not high, even though they had a huge size difference, so Meagan could control the landings.
Tarasova/Morozov’s throws are incredibly high, and she lands with so much speed that she can often two-foot the landing and still maintain the appearance of a running edge.
Stolbova/Klimov’s actual throws weren’t exceptionally high or long, but they came barreling down the ice with crazy speed on the takeoff, and Ksenia got an amazing running edge.
Cain/LeDuc (who have a small height difference because they are both tall) have high throws because she has to get her long legs high enough off the ice to complete the rotation.
Those are the examples of throw technique I can think of off the top of my head.
Well Cong leaves the ice when he throws her so I would call that chucking.
Han has resisted the "Chinese Method" of doing throws like Hao Zhang. They seem to go their own way a little bit and it seems to be tolerated maybe due to their results.
I was very impressed by the way they accelerated into their big elements, especially into their explosive throw flip that they landed right in from of me several times (*gasps*)
Individual events absolutely cap. I hope they all stop capping pairs.There are no caps on the number of entries for CS events, right?? I was just thinking about U.S. senior pairs ... We used at least 15 CS pairs slots this past season, maybe 1 or 2 more. I would imagine Russia used a similar amount.
The cast of Averbukh's latest show went to Lake Baikal, so there's a lot of cool videos showing up on skaters' instagrams.
PetTikh death spiral
TarMor (Zhenya didn't bring her own skates)
(but she borrowed some later)
I just watched S/M's winning free skate from the Olympics and I can't say I have seen anything close to that seamless beauty this year. Every element just looks bigger and better.
According to Enbert's instagram, Z/E are training for Worlds. I know they've been a question mark since they w/d from Euroes, so here's some news for the fans! (I'm not really a fan, but I don't wanna see P/K's weird ass LP anymore either, so go zenberts!)
Pavlyuchenko/KhodykinWho are P/K?