Hanna, according to the site, in your case, you can use a recovery certificate (certificat de rétablissement) of less than 6 months after your infection in place of a vaccine certificate.I've been trying to figure out the new French vaccine pass law and have a few questions as I feel like I've seen varying things depending on the source.
So basically, starting Feb. 15th if you want to access any events, restaurants, museums etc. in France you need to have had 3 shots with the newest not being more than 4 months old. At least this is what I gathered? Now my question is are there any exceptions to this regarding people who've had the crud before? I know that a negative test won't be useful anymore. But in my case, I have had 2 shots last summer, after which I still somehow got the crud from somewhere in early November. Which means that in Finland I'm technically not allowed to get a 3rd shot as having the crud counts as the equivalent of one shot. Is this going to get me in trouble regarding Worlds?
On this site https://www.gouvernement.fr/pass-sanitaire-et-dose-de-rappel-ce-qui-change-au-15-janvier there is a table according to which a person with 2 shots + the crud will be considered the same as 3 shots until 6 months of the infection. But I am not sure if this will still be valid starting Feb. 15th?
So if there's someone here who is more in the know about this and can share the info, I'd appreciate it! If needed, I will go beg to get a 3rd shot "for travel reasons"but if it's not needed, then I'd rather save myself from the possible drama.
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Thank you
, yes, this is what I gathered is valid right now. But since there will be some changes on Feb. 15th, I'd just really like to be sure that this is not among the changes. The one upcoming change I did see is that the time frame from having had the 2nd shot without a third booster will be reduced from 7 months to 4 months. But whether that is the only change, I couldn't quite figure it out. But I hope that you are right!Also, regarding the certificat de rétablissement, does it have to be one document that specifically shows that I had covid after 2 shots (just looking at the table on the site)? Because the current recovery certificate that I have just says that I have recovered and it's valid until 1st May but it doesn't mention anything about being vaccinated or not. The proof of having 2 shots is another certificate, so technically I have 2 separate ones. I'd also like to be sure this won't give me any trouble because I can already see myself trying to enter the Sud de France arena and the pass reader beeping a big fat NON
and I will be denied my access. And trying to explain I have 2 different certificates will not impress the crud pass reading person 
and I will be left with death in my soul not being allowed to enter. 
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So if you had the third shot longer than four months ago you can't go at all?! What are you supposed to do--get a fourth shot?!Thank you
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@Hanna where did you see the info about the 3rd shot? I can't see it on the website.Thanks.
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From what I have gathered from several different websites now, this will be the case starting from Feb 15th. So for Worlds, you can't have had the 3rd shot before Nov. 23rd 2021 or so. But if someone has more accurate info, please do share!
Edit: Never mind, this was not the case, luckily!
Sorry for being misleading!It's all right there in the middle of the page if you scroll down. I'll link an article here as well.
Edit: Here's a good one... except I can't link it properly because it has the name of the crud in the address and it doesn't show up on this forum
Search for "lonely planet how to apply for health pass in france" or try herebut replace the stars with those 5 letters which are the name of the crud that I can't write here
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OK, I interperted it differently? The vaccine passport after 2nd dose will only be valid for 4 months without a 3rd dose. Before the change it would have been valid for 7 months after 2nd dose. So this does not mean that you need to have your 3rd dose 4 months ago? Maybe my understanding is not correct?
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I believe @muffinplus is correct for those who have had boosters. France hasn't set an expiration date for those yet. Italy currently only accepts boosters up to 6 months old, which is causing a bit of a freak-out on a travel forum where I spend a lot of time, because a lot of folks got boosted early last fall and want to go to Italy in April/May/June.
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Hmm actually now that I re-read it, you're right, and that would make a lot more sense. Which is good news!
However my own problem about having separate certificates for 2 shots and covid still stands, so if someone has any info on that, thanks!
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Can you apply for the French covid certificate in advance? I did this last fall (when it was free, I am not sure this is free anymore?)... but I only have the one showing 2 doses, I tried to get them to update it to 3 doses, but never heard backHmm actually now that I re-read it, you're right, and that would make a lot more sense. Which is good news!
However my own problem about having separate certificates for 2 shots and ********* still stands, so if someone has any info on that, thanks!
Now I also have a Swiss one that shows 3 doses
Which I believe is accepted in France
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Yes. So just to be clear
- if you've had 3 shots, you're good (unless they still manage to change that at some point)
- if you've only had 2, the second one can't have been before Nov. 23-27 or so, if it is then you will need to get a 3rd
I will have to check that out but since I'm from another EU country, I already have a EU covid certificate and technically a French one should not be required from me. The EU one should be good. But since my case might be a bit more specific, I might need to look into that.
If there are any French posters who are very up to date on this, feel free to send me a PM.
Not a French poster but can report info shared by residents of France on a travel forum: Pharmacies can charge up to 35 or 36 euros to convert a US CDC card to an electronic French pass. There is currently no way to modify a pass showing two vaccinations to include a booster; you need to pay for a new pass. There is also currently no way to accomplish this electronically from afar; it requires an in-person visit. I know that Swiss cantons have an electronic process; I believe the cost is in the same ballpark.
I'm sure the French procedure works for visitors from other countries, not just the US, though it wouldn't normally be needed by an EU resident. I don't see why it wouldn't work, though, and I'd probably take that route myself (or check out theFrench Swiss procedure) rather than being nervous every time I wanted to enter the arena, a restaurant or a museum in Montpellier.
I'm sure the French procedure works for visitors from other countries, not just the US, though it wouldn't normally be needed by an EU resident. I don't see why it wouldn't work, though, and I'd probably take that route myself (or check out the
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Swiss one was pretty fast for me to obtain, it was 24 hrs I think...
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Following this thread closely. I also read travelers have to have a negative PCR or antigen test within less than 48 hours of travel, as well, even if vaccinated.
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I think it's.rather useless checking the rules now for March. Things will.change till then
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Yeah, this depends on where you're coming from. From the US, yes. From most European countries, no.
Although like TAHbKA said, things could still change several times before mid-March. But I think it's always good to try to be somewhat prepared early to avoid any inconvenient surprises, if possible.
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@Hanna If you live in a European country, both your vaccines certificate and your crud certificate must have QR codes. Try to download the app "TOUS ANTI COVID" on your phone (not sure you can when you're outside of France and/or you aren't French) and scan your QR codes. Then you just have to show the app on your phone for controls.
Otherwise, if your certificates have QR codes , they can be read by control apps all over the world, at airports, train stations and also at the entrance of French rinks. For updates on what will change on Fe. 15, I confess I, who live in France, haven't the slightest idea of what it will be. Changes are made all the time, it's hard to follow!
Otherwise, if your certificates have QR codes , they can be read by control apps all over the world, at airports, train stations and also at the entrance of French rinks. For updates on what will change on Fe. 15, I confess I, who live in France, haven't the slightest idea of what it will be. Changes are made all the time, it's hard to follow!
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The TousAntiCovid app can be downloaded outside of France. I‘m in US and was able to load my French Health Pass.
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Thank you @cholla !
I actually downloaded the app last night it and I love it, it looks really convenient and great to use. I scanned both of my certificates on the app, it took 2 seconds and was super easy and simple. The expiry dates seem correct so far so I'm a little more at ease that the one with "6 months since recovery" should still be working in March (even if it doesn't state a difference between recovery + being vaxxed with 2 and recovery + no vaccine... so I guess maybe there is no difference in the end). Unless they change something. 
That's what worries me the most! But I guess we'll have to wait and see!
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I tried scanning a Sputnik QR code into TousAntiCovid
Not unsurprisingly, it told me it was not in the correct format.
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Regarding restrictions, I just read that the current restriction of max. 2000 spectators for indoor events will be lifted starting from Feb 2nd.
Okay, so I will need a booster? I worry what it will do to my immune system as I had the crud first week of January. I am going to wait as long as possible to get it then. I don't think as an American my recovery will work. Ugh. I am so uncomfortable with all these passes and papers please things that have come out everywhere.
I got Johnson&Johnson.
I got Johnson&Johnson.
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@Lanie Try the web page of the French Consulate closest to you. They should have specific info for those intending to travel. And yes, you should get a booster, preferably Pfizer or Moderna as those are approved in France. As long as your J&J was more than 2 months ago, you can get a booster once your crud symptoms are gone and you’ve met the isolation requirements.
Ugh. I never had any intention of another one especially having had the crud recently. My doctor is skeptical about it. I was hoping novavax would be available (older vaccine tech) but I doubt it. The new normal sucks.
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I'm afraid the combination of J&J and an infection is not going to very helpful for international travel/vaccination pass requirements in Europe, being that recently recovered would be enough in Germany though, not sure about France, but you're probably right that it might be a bit of a risk to get an American recovery certificate considered as valid on a completely different continent.
Personally I'd probably try to contact the event organizers, cause they might know best, what they are going to accept?
Personally I'd probably try to contact the event organizers, cause they might know best, what they are going to accept?
Yes, I don't think my natural infection counts being an American. Ah well. I'm not best pleased about it. I'll wait til early March probably to do it, wait a bit!
I'm excited though - got my hotel in Montpellier and now one for a few days beforehand in Paris! I was having a hard time booking individual tickets online as I tend to do instead of a package, so I am wondering if I should just wait til I am THERE and can get tickets at the office? I do this a lot but it's only been for events in the US.
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I feel your pain there.
It's taking FOREVER.Is there a schedule by discipline?
It shows dates for worlds as 3/21-3/27.
I assume 3/27 will be exhibitions.
What is the date of the first SP? From past experience it starts on Wednesday, so May be 3/24 will be the day the competition begins?
I assume 3/21-3/22 will be for skating order and practices?
It shows dates for worlds as 3/21-3/27.
I assume 3/27 will be exhibitions.
What is the date of the first SP? From past experience it starts on Wednesday, so May be 3/24 will be the day the competition begins?
I assume 3/21-3/22 will be for skating order and practices?
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That seems likely - 4 days of competition from Wednesday March, 23 to Saturday March 26.
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I have the Courtyard Montpellier booked... it's close to the arena, but doesn't seem like the best location for city center?
