Med injured, possibly out of GPF

Did anyone else notice the things on either side of both of EM's ankles in recent GP comps? Coming up from her skates to mid shin on the outside and inside, looking like a support or something? What are those things? I never noticed them on anyone before.
 
Judging by the trajectory of Alina’s scores, I actually can imagine a situation in which Evgenia loses the OGM, provided Alina skates both her short and long clean and Evgenia is significantly off her game. That’s probably the biggest reason Evgenia wants to skate so badly in the final. She wants to prove to the judges in direct competition with Alina that she’s still the better skater.

That said, I don’t think Evgenia needs GPF as much as she thinks she does. At the end of the day the biggest threat to her OGM is her own health. She can win without momentum. She may not be able to win with a fractured foot even if she has all the momentum in the world. If she’s healthy, her destiny is in her own hands. If she skates 2 clean programs at Olympics (as she always does when she’s healthy), I still think she’ll win comfortably over Alina even after missing GPF and even Nationals.
 
snoopy said:
I think there is zero chance her team will allow an injured Med to skate.
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I think the Russian Fed will have no qualms about just giving Medvedeva an Olympic spot if they think she can win. However, I think the Russian Fed will also do test skates or any other means of verifying her fitness before hand since they have so much high scoring talent.

However, if she can skate as usual with whatever approved treatment, I am certain Medvedeva will get her spot and win the OGM.
 
There seems to be a belief amongst some that Russian ladies skating is some kind of factory with several skaters at the top being interchangeable. Far from it!

If they don't take steps to get her to the Games in the best possible shape, I think that would rank up there alongside sitting their star goalkeeper in the semifinal against USA Hockey in Lake Placid.
 
Aimless said:
Did anyone else notice the things on either side of both of EM's ankles in recent GP comps? Coming up from her skates to mid shin on the outside and inside, looking like a support or something? What are those things? I never noticed them on anyone before.
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I did. She was tapped. I believe those are pain relievers. I was worried that she had an ankle or leg injury.
 
Vash01 said:
Did anyone else notice the things on either side of both of EM's ankles in recent GP comps? Coming up from her skates to mid shin on the outside and inside, looking like a support or something? What are those things? I never noticed them on anyone before.
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Looks like KT Tape.
 
haribobo said:
This timing did not have to be so awful if she addressed it initially... Rather shocking that an athlete of her caliber and a coach of Eteri's caliber could be so lax about dealing with an injury...oh well. Her loss. Live and learn girl... Someone else's gain...
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This happens all the time in sports. It's unfortunately extremely common and nowhere close to being a new thing. Even athletes well into adulthood would have done exactly what Med. and her team are doing all in the name of the competitive rush. Many of them with their bodies just barely holding together by a thread, or just had the wind knocked out of them in one way or another, still insist their well enough to play and the coaches and team doctors let them :shuffle:

She's an 18 year old girl who extremely driven and competitive. The people around her should be putting their foot down now and telling her no heavy competition until its healed but that rarely happens in sports. It's all very foolish. There isn't just an Olympic gold medal at stake but also her health. What happens if she competes at the GPF and makes it even worse? It could become a nagging injury that will plague her for the rest of her career. It could pretty much END her career! Just look at Adelina with aborted comeback after comeback and likely never to come close to the heights she did ever again.

She's treading dangerous waters
 
I am so sorry to hear that Evgenia is injured. I just love her. Totally agree she should let herself heal and be ready for Olympics. One question though....will she be there? I keep hearing on the news that the Russians will not be permitted to compete in the Olympics. Which, if true, would be a travesty for the ladies' figure skating event. But, you all seem to be optimistic that Med will be there (and most likely win the OGM). Have I missed something? Have the Russians been cleared to compete? I hope so.

OOPS .... sorry. I see there is already another thread dealing with the Russian/Olympics ban situation. I'll check that one out.
 
Tony Wheeler said:
Right. And since the draw is automatic once again this season (reverse world standings), I’m not sure when they actually make it ‘official’. Possibly 24 hours before the start of the segment.
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Just a small nitpick: while this is the case for regular Grand Prixes, isn't the starting order of the GPF reverse GP standings?
 
AxelAnnie said:
Yes, I do. Ankle is different that a foot that has to hit the ice, and feel where it is. Also, not nearly the technical content nor body pounding there is today.
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Many many skaters skate on painkillers. We only get to hear about it if they choose to publicize it.

Oksana in 1994 is another well known example
 
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An interview where Evgenia talks about her injury&plans: https://mrsport.ria.ru/interview/20171122/1129019867.html
She says it was a stress fracture so there wasn’t an exact time and date when it happened. When asked whether it was worth the risk to skate on painkillers in Moscow and at NHK, says that her main goal was to make the GPF which she did. Says she’s keeping in shape and training off ice. Says she is not satisfied with the season so far because she made mistakes which she plans not to repeat. Says she will do everything possible to recuperate and skate in the final. Says she doesn’t want to take a break because now is the least opportune moment to take a break. On a side note, says that she didn’t plan to celebrate her birthday, but Ekaterina Bobrova organized the party and summoned her. Says there were only six of her closest friends and it was absolutely perfect.
 
quiqie said:
An interview where Evgenia talks about her injury&plans: https://mrsport.ria.ru/interview/20171122/1129019867.html
She says it was a stress fracture so there wasn’t an exact time and date when it happened. When asked whether it was worth the risk to skate on painkillers in Moscow and at NHK, says that her main goal was to make the GPF which she did. Says she’s keeping in shape and training off ice. Says she is not satisfied with the season so far because she made mistakes which she plans not to repeat. Says she will do everything possible to recuperate and skate in the final. Says she doesn’t want to take a break because now is the least opportune moment to take a break. On a side note, says that she didn’t plan to celebrate her birthday, but Ekaterina Bobrova organized the party and summoned her. Says there were only six of her closest friends and it was absolutely perfect.
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Katia Bobrova is so lovely, it is simply impossible to dislike her - if only she could dance!
 
zebobes said:
Just a small nitpick: while this is the case for regular Grand Prixes, isn't the starting order of the GPF reverse GP standings?
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Yes!

9.3 Special Regulations for the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final Skaters/Couples will start the Short Program/Short Dance in reverse order of the ranking order in which they have qualified for the Final. In the case of a tie, there will be a draw to determine who skates first.
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I can't remember in which Olympics this happened, but there was a lower-ranked Pairs skater from an OES team who competed with a broken ankle.
 
Whatever her decision I hope she comes back roaring for PyeongChang because the thought of Zag winning the Olympics is :yikes:
 
zigzig said:
Whatever her decision I hope she comes back roaring for PyeongChang because the thought of Zag winning the Olympics is :yikes:
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Bearing in mind that Tara Lipinski, Sarah Hughes and Adelina Sotnikova are all Olympic champions, I don't see the problem with Zag winning it. In fact, I like her. There is something very genuine and endearing about her.
 
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kwanfan1818 said:
Yes!

I can't remember in which Olympics this happened, but there was a lower-ranked Pairs skater from an OES team who competed with a broken ankle.
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2002, Natalia Ponomareva and Evgeny Sviridov from Uzbekistan. She had a fractured foot IIRC, and when NBC was talking with teams early in the week, they found out their story and showed both of their programs live (I think it also didn't hurt that they skated either right before or right after B/S in the short). She two-footed or bailed on every jumping element. Obviously, not a top-level pair either way.

zebobes said:
Just a small nitpick: while this is the case for regular Grand Prixes, isn't the starting order of the GPF reverse GP standings?
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And yes, my mistake! But I'm guessing they make these orders 'official' 24 hours before the start of the segment.
 
Russia's ladies field may be deep, but they've got to take a look at why the top contenders (Medvedeva, Anna Pogo, Elizaveta T) are succumbing to injuries or whatever's going on with them this season.

it's dispiriting when the champions are a series of sixteen year olds who are one title and done
 
viennese said:
Russia's ladies field may be deep, but they've got to take a look at why the top contenders (Medvedeva, Anna Pogo, Elizaveta T) are succumbing to injuries or whatever's going on with them this season.

it's dispiriting when the champions are a series of sixteen year olds who are one title and done
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That’s not the case. Tuktamysheva did not win her gold at worlds when she was 16. Medvedeva did win it in her first senior eligible year, but she is not one title and done. Pogorilaya and Radionova were among the top skaters at world for several seasons. So not sure what made you write that.
 
Tony Wheeler said:
2002, Natalia Ponomareva and Evgeny Sviridov from Uzbekistan. She had a fractured foot IIRC, and when NBC was talking with teams early in the week, they found out their story and showed both of their programs live (I think it also didn't hurt that they skated either right before or right after B/S in the short). She two-footed or bailed on every jumping element. Obviously, not a top-level pair either way.
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I hope her foot is okay now.
 
hanca said:
That’s not the case. Tuktamysheva did not win her gold at worlds when she was 16. Medvedeva did win it in her first senior eligible year, but she is not one title and done. Pogorilaya and Radionova were among the top skaters at world for several seasons. So not sure what made you write that.
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I guess I was thinking of the most recent Olympic champion rather than Tuktamysheva. I didn't mention Radionova.
 
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