Let's Talk Movies #36 - 2020 - Yep it is a new decade

[Davy88gtbwxyc]

More Than Honey is a documentary that navigates the troubling reality of the decline of honeybee populations around the world, and among other things it also highlights the efforts being made by individuals primarily within honeybee occupations and scientists to understand and counteract this tragedy.

Albert Einstein has quoted the following: "If the bee disappeared off the face of the Earth, man would only have four years left to live"

The amazing intricate interconnectedness of all living things on the planet is really exemplified in this documentary with a detailed walk through of the many possible contributing factors of this tragedy and also some of the potential devastating consequences that could (and will) occur as a result.

As someone that consumes honey quite regularly, I felt obliged to watch this, and I now have a deeper appreciation for bees, and am amazed to learn that humanity simply cannot withstand the loss of these fantastic honey producing insects.

 

[Buzz]

Actor Jeremy Renner is out of the hospital and back at home but sounds like he has a very long road to recovery.

Jeremy Renner requires substantial chest reconstruction: report

'The right side of Jeremy's chest was crushed, and his upper torso had collapsed. He also had a bad head wound that was bleeding and a leg injury'

nationalpost.com

 

[Aussie Willy]

More Than Honey is a documentary that navigates the troubling reality of the decline of honeybee populations around the world, and among other things it also highlights the efforts being made by individuals primarily within honeybee occupations and scientists to understand and counteract this tragedy.

Albert Einstein has quoted the following: "If the bee disappeared off the face of the Earth, man would only have four years left to live"

The amazing intricate interconnectedness of all living things on the planet is really exemplified in this documentary with a detailed walk through of the many possible contributing factors of this tragedy and also some of the potential devastating consequences that could (and will) occur as a result.

As someone that consumes honey quite regularly, I felt obliged to watch this, and I now have a deeper appreciation for bees, and am amazed to learn that humanity simply cannot withstand the loss of these fantastic honey producing insects.

As a movie reference about bees, if you saw the updated Blade Runner, there was a scene with bees. I sat there thinking how could they be surviving as the place they were in was a wasteland.

Sounds like a good doco. My friend has beehives and his honey is the nicest honey I have ever had. Where I live there are definitely threats to bee populations. That is why it is important if you have a garden to have lots of flowering plants for the bees to help them.

 

[text_skate]

As someone that consumes honey quite regularly, I felt obliged to watch this, and I now have a deeper appreciation for bees, and am amazed to learn that humanity simply cannot withstand the loss of these fantastic honey producing insects.

How good to hear, that the film still has audience. I've watched the documentary back then at Locarno film festival, and later again on TV. Probably I should watch it again as you mentionned it.

 

[Kasey]

I went yesterday to see "The Whale". Very well-done, a bit disturbing and dark, with excellent acting all around. I get the kudos for Brenden Fraser, I can't imagine anyone topping his performance in this for the Academy Award. He really was immersed in the character, and the character was both sympathetic and frustrating. The actress who played the daughter was also very good, as well as the friend. It kind of is a story about addiction, although his addiction is food, because he's using it to numb his emotions. A bit of a challenging movie to get through.

 

[Japanfan]

More Than Honey is a documentary that navigates the troubling reality of the decline of honeybee populations around the world, and among other things it also highlights the efforts being made by individuals primarily within honeybee occupations and scientists to understand and counteract this tragedy.

Another film about bees is 'Honeyland'. It's about a woman who lives in the countryside of Macedonia and keeps bees in the traditional way. A charming film.

 

[annie720]

Saw A Man Called Otto. I had seen the original Swedish version when it came out about 10 years ago but honestly couldn't remember if some of my memories came from that film or the book, so it was hard to compare. This film takes place in Pittsburgh but it doesn't seem overly Americanized. I felt like the housing development and the way it was run seemed much like the Swedish version described in the book. Hanks was good but he didn't blow me away. But then it's a bland character. I had to research his son Truman who had a pretty significant role considering this was his first acting gig. My favorite was Mariana Trevino who played the neighbor. I felt she was just right.

 

[MacMadame]

Saw A Man Called Otto. I had seen the original Swedish version when it came out about 10 years ago but honestly couldn't remember if some of my memories came from that film or the book, so it was hard to compare. This film takes place in Pittsburgh but it doesn't seem overly Americanized. I felt like the housing development and the way it was run seemed much like the Swedish version described in the book. Hanks was good but he didn't blow me away. But then it's a bland character. I had to research his son Truman who had a pretty significant role considering this was his first acting gig. My favorite was Mariana Trevino who played the neighbor. I felt she was just right.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CAT?!?!?

 

[annie720]

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CAT?!?!?

The cat MADE the movie!

Saw the new film Broker today by Japanese director Hirokazu Kore-eda whose film Shoplifters made a big impression on me a few years back. This story takes place in Korea and deals with the adoption black market and the trafficking of unwanted infants dropped off in baby boxes. I liked the film and it makes you think about the societal issues related to this.

 

[vgerdes]

Actor Jeremy Renner is out of the hospital and back at home but sounds like he has a very long road to recovery.

Jeremy Renner requires substantial chest reconstruction: report

'The right side of Jeremy's chest was crushed, and his upper torso had collapsed. He also had a bad head wound that was bleeding and a leg injury'

nationalpost.com

A little more info about Jeremy: ‘Avengers’ star Jeremy Renner says he broke 30 bones in snowplow accident

Makes me hurt just thinking about it.

 

[Davy88gtbwxyc]

"The Matrix: Resurrection" is not my usual cup of tea when it comes to watching movies. It was a bit too sci-fi for liking.

But I was curious to watch it nonetheless, partly because of all the hype around it and also partly because of how much the infamous Andrew Tate has talked about his own ideas of what he considers to be the Matrix.

The movie has all of the hallmarks of a great film: great actors, amazing special effects, an interesting storyline, and undoubtedly an enormous production budget.

But again, it was a bit too sci-fi for my liking.

 

[vgerdes]

"The Matrix: Resurrection" is not my usual cup of tea when it comes to watching movies. It was a bit too sci-fi for liking.

But I was curious to watch it nonetheless, partly because of all the hype around it and also partly because of how much the infamous Andrew Tate has talked about his own ideas of what he considers to be the Matrix.

The movie has all of the hallmarks of a great film: great actors, amazing special effects, an interesting storyline, and undoubtedly an enormous production budget.

But again, it was a bit too sci-fi for my liking.

As someone who absolutely adores sci-fi, I thought it was brilliant. Almost as good as the first one.

 

[PeterG]

I watched The Age of Innocence recently. It was referenced in regards to The Heiress, I believe. Maybe not here though, maybe on the DVD extras for that movie. At first I found the movie overly precious...irritatingly so. The pains of the uber-wealthy straight, white people.

But it soon grabbed my attention with the characters, mainly Michelle Pfeiffer and Winona Ryder. Miriam Margolyes is also fantastic as an elder matriarch. She won the BAFTA for best supporting actress. But I am seemingly the only person in the world who doesn't worship at the altar of Daniel Day-Lewis. He's great, but as always, he veers too close too often to "Over-Acting Land". He's like that person at parties who arrives late, makes a big entrance (loudly), overdoes reactions to the people around him. Just too much. It didn't help that I found his character quite unappealing. He basically has everything, yet ruins everyone around him (and includes himself). Just because he doesn't have the ba!!s to go for what he wants. And I found it annoying that he was the lead character, I would have preferred to the story to be about Pfeiffer and Ryder's characters and see more about their lives and how they were affected. And for Day-Lewis' character to end up in a tiny room of a boarding house freezing to death in winter when he's not spending time at the local soup kitchen.

 

[caseyedwards]

No doubt about it. Everything everywhere all at once would be the weirdest BP winner ever! There is nothing like it even in the past 10 years! I mean the last 10 years includes The Shape of Water which still isn’t anywhere near EEAAO

 

[emason]

@PeterG For you to get what you want, Edith Wharton would have to have written a very different book.

 

[PeterG]

@PeterG For you to get what you want, Edith Wharton would have to have written a very different book.

Yes. But it was a big win for her as a female writer to get published in the early 1900's. And to critique the upper class in her work...and she wasn't even a dude!! Her success is proof of her immense (and groundbreaking) talent. From wikipedia:

In 1921, she became the first woman to win the Pulitzer Prize in Fiction, for her novel The Age of Innocence.[/unquote]

I wonder if she wanted to write more from the female character's perspective, but knew her only real choice was to make a man the main character. But she did write strong female characters...and made the male a spineless turd.

An arguably better movie than The Age of Innocence based on a Wharton novel is The House of Mirth that came out in 2000. It starred Gillian Anderson, Dan Aykroyd, Terry Kinney, Anthony LaPaglia, Laura Linney, Elizabeth McGovern and Eric Stoltz.

 

[emason]

I’ve read both books (more than once) and seen both movies (more than once) and love them all. (My favorite Wharton novel is actually Ethan Frome, but that’s a very different story altogether.)

We will have to agree to disagree on The Age of Innocence.

 

[clairecloutier]

I really enjoyed The Age of Innocence, but I also pretty much agree with @PeterG’s estimation of the character that Day-Lewis plays.

I don’t mind Day-Lewis as an actor, but I’ve never really gotten the huge praise for him. I’ve only seen some of his more popular movies, but I agree with @PeterG that Michelle Pfeiffer and Winona Ryder were more memorable to me in Age of Innocence. Similarly, in Last of the Mohicans, it was Madeleine Stowe who stood out most to me, and in Gangs of New York, it was DiCaprio, not Day-Lewis (well, maybe partly because Day-Lewis’s character was so loathsome in that latter film).

 

[Buzz]

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[VGThuy]

The only times I really understood the incredible Day-Lewis praise was for Lincoln and The Phantom Thread and then he decided to retire. Go figure.

 

[emason]

The oft-repeated quote about Day-Lewis is that “he has everything Hollywood actors want: talent, and everything English actors want: good looks.”

 

[PeterG]

The oft-repeated quote about Day-Lewis is that “he has everything Hollywood actors want: talent, and everything English actors want: good looks.”

 

[Aussie Willy]

Has anyone else seen Babylon yet?

I saw it on the weekend. Not sure what to think of it. There were parts I really liked such as the music. But not sure if it had to be 3 hours. I always like Margot Robbie and Brad Pitt. But it did appear as if Margot was kind of channelling a bit of Harley Quinn.

 

[Spikefan]

I watched The Age of Innocence recently. It was referenced in regards to The Heiress, I believe.

That came out when I was in college and I was a huge Michelle uber (transferred over to a different Michelle two years later). I went and saw it three times because I thought her performance was so magnificent. We had a dollar matinee and I also went to True Romance three times that fall. I kind of miss loving movies that much. I cannot think of a movie I would do that for today.

 

[PeterG]

That came out when I was in college and I was a huge Michelle uber (transferred over to a different Michelle two years later). I went and saw it three times because I thought her performance was so magnificent. We had a dollar matinee and I also went to True Romance three times that fall. I kind of miss loving movies that much. I cannot think of a movie I would do that for today.

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[jenny12]

Has anyone else seen Babylon yet?

I saw it on the weekend. Not sure what to think of it. There were parts I really liked such as the music. But not sure if it had to be 3 hours. I always like Margot Robbie and Brad Pitt. But it did appear as if Margot was kind of channelling a bit of Harley Quinn.

Yeah, I thought there were pieces of the film that worked really well and some parts I found incredibly off-putting. Also, while there were certainly a lot of talented actors in the film, I really couldn't connect with any of the characters so I didn't feel invested in it. I was kind of watching at a distance the whole way through.

 

[Aussie Willy]

Yeah, I thought there were pieces of the film that worked really well and some parts I found incredibly off-putting. Also, while there were certainly a lot of talented actors in the film, I really couldn't connect with any of the characters so I didn't feel invested in it. I was kind of watching at a distance the whole way through.

Yes I agree with you. I think you have summed up how I felt.

 

[caseyedwards]

Yes. But it was a big win for her as a female writer to get published in the early 1900's. And to critique the upper class in her work...and she wasn't even a dude!! Her success is proof of her immense (and groundbreaking) talent. From wikipedia:



I wonder if she wanted to write more from the female character's perspective, but knew her only real choice was to make a man the main character. But she did write strong female characters...and made the male a spineless turd.

An arguably better movie than The Age of Innocence based on a Wharton novel is The House of Mirth that came out in 2000. It starred Gillian Anderson, Dan Aykroyd, Terry Kinney, Anthony LaPaglia, Laura Linney, Elizabeth McGovern and Eric Stoltz.

I just watched the house of mirth and I totally agree! Lily Bart is probably more extreme Version of countess olenska. Can you say Olenska problems were survivable because she was married at one point where Bart was too prideful before she was married and therefore had nothing. There’s lots to unpack there! She wanted the stoltz character but he wasn’t appropriate for her status then she didn’t want to be a mistress to aykroyd and lapaglia just had no interest in whatsoever. But he was probably the nicest!

 

[PeterG]

Kanarie is a 2018 South African drama set in 1985. It’s about a young gay man who begins his two-year mandatory military service. He successfully auditions for the Defence Force Choir where he meets others with similar stories to his. Which is a double-edged sword as he struggles to accept himself and his contemporaries as homophobia is having a smothering effect on him. I liked this movie, but my hesitancy to embrace it might be connected to my coming out at about the same time as the young men in this movie. Even though their situations were much different to mine, it’s still painful to see where there are similarities. Quite a good cast in this movie, nice to see a lot of talented actors I’ve never seen in anything before.

Trailer for Kanarie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yAmfyrQ3kY

 

[watchthis!!]

I found Badlands to be a very interesting and involving movie…in an unsettling way. It came out in 1973 and is based on the life of Charles Starkweather, who some have said is America’s first serial killer. Martin Sheen plays the lead character and Sissy Spacek plays his girlfriend. The story is told in a kind of simple way, but I found myself pulled into the story quite strongly. The DVD extras mentioned that Starkweather was quite a captivating man, with many law enforcement officers being quite captivated by him, even though he had killed police officers. Side note: Martin Sheen at 30 years old was a real hottie!! :swoom: